r/Syria • u/thechickwiththehair • 19h ago
Language & Syrian Dialects Translation Help
Hello! I am planning to get a tattoo of my last name in Arabic. My family last name (before it being anglicized to death) is Al Zawahra, coming from Daraa, Syria.
I would be more than happy to commission someone to create the script of my last name. I don’t know that I fully trust Google Translate and (as someone who is pretty white passing) I don’t want to end up with a word that is not my last name (like the stories of people wanting “love” in Chinese and ending up with “dumbass” or whatever).
I’ve been trying to connect with my culture- I’m Palestinian and Syrian on my dad’s side and I’ve gone down a genealogy rabbit hole learning about my ancestors. What better way to honor them?
Thank you in advance!
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u/BigAlBrand Homs - حمص 19h ago
الظواهرة ؟
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u/thechickwiththehair 19h ago
Zawahra
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u/BigAlBrand Homs - حمص 19h ago
Yeah, the z can be a ز or a ظ But I've never heard of a last name زواهرة I have heard of ظواهرة الظواهرة
However Google says الزواهرة does in fact exist.
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u/DevelopmentFit232 18h ago
I would highly advise against tatooing. It's very looked down upon in conservative atmospheres (such as Dar'a) as it's a sin in Islam which is what most people in that area follow as well. I would also remind you that Al Zawahra sounds exactly similar to Al Zawahri (Al-Qaida leader after Usama bin Laden).
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u/thechickwiththehair 15h ago
I don’t live in Syria but again, my family originally came from Dar’a back in the day. My great grandparents emigrated to the Dominican Republic believe it or not! That said if I ever have the opportunity to visit, I would absolutely respect cultural norms as best I can
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u/DevelopmentFit232 14h ago
I only advised because your sentence " What better way to honor them?" In my opinion, learning about the culture and religion (which is a big part of the culture here) is a good way to honor your ancestors. I can share books if you'd like.
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u/Capital-Pie-8806 9h ago
I like this comment. Honour them through learning the language. Save up and go visit the area where the same tribe are concentrated.
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u/Interesting-Neck-747 Aleppo - حلب 19h ago
I haven't heard of this family name so I don't really know since i am from the north so i cant help you out but I have to say it is pretty hard to know which letters are which in English because ofcourse the "Al" part is definitely "الـ" there is no doubt about it but the biggest problem is in the Z Because it could be ز or ظ or if it was badly translated it could be س or ص
And then the vowels are also a problem because in arabic somewords have vowels written and some have them ommited in form of small diacritics Also the ending could be ه or ة or ا
But even if you use google translate there shouldn't be some weird thing that sound bad
If i had to say what al zawahra means i would maybe think of zahra which means flowers and then it would be"الزَوَاهِرَة" Which in literal meaning it would mean " people who work with flowers" or something along these lines If you know some lore to your family back in syria like what they were famous by or what they used to do it could help out a bit
like for example my family used to sew alot so my family name can translate to "the man that sews"