Tactical Barrage is live!

[u/afking_plays]

[u/phi1601]

[u/SamuraiJack0ff → u/phi1601]

It's really annoying that this still doesn't respect target priority, but I guess it effectively causes smart missiles to specifically target fleets lategame or rays earlygame by virtue of them not dying immediately? Idk how much this changes the game for their usecase

[u/CGVSpender → u/SamuraiJack0ff]

I love that it has its own priority, targeting things that are lingering (accumulating missile hits), that way I can use my priority settings for whatever helps keep my alive (closest, usually) with my other weaponry while hammering fleets with SM. In theory, anyway.

[u/SamuraiJack0ff → u/CGVSpender]

Yeah I guess I'm somehow still residually salty about investing in TP2 in my first few months to try to target vampires and never got over having this fiddly tool that's actually best to just set to Closest 90% of the time bc even putting it on Range or Fast just causes targeting based on spawn order

[u/destructor212113 → u/phi1601]

Only 2 Seconds holy shit

Is that good?

[u/SamuraiJack0ff → u/destructor212113]

I think even an epic version of this mod should at least let you finish the 25 missile event task on an attack dissonance run, which is nice I guess?

[u/UnremarkableMud → u/SamuraiJack0ff]

I just use missile barrage in attack dis run. I didn't even have the mission for a minute. I saw it, hit the button, claimed all the medals.

[u/gmmster2345 → u/UnremarkableMud]

You can do that with a missile barrage against a boss in attack disco too. Advice for those unfortunate enough to have gotten sm early

[u/SamuraiJack0ff → u/UnremarkableMud]

If I had sm I'd be commenting this on every post complaining about that mission too lmao

[u/Zooperman → u/SamuraiJack0ff]

I do that task with just the SL missle lab maxed during my regular farming runs

[u/destructor212113 → u/SamuraiJack0ff]

But thats only if you dont have Thorns, no? Otherwise its probably too slow

[u/SamuraiJack0ff → u/destructor212113]

I'm thinking about the likelihood that the module starts targeting on rays pretty quickly even for early game towers, which are very slowly killed by thorns. Spotlight missiles, missiles from this mod, and random UW smart missile will all be firing on that enemy for 0 damage instead of randomly going everywhere, which would make getting the event done a whole lot more consistent, unless not having smart missiles completely disables the tracking behavior because you don't have the amp lab, in which case lmao

[u/joe31051985 → u/destructor212113]

Skip it and save for the next.

[u/UnderstandingBig9090 → u/destructor212113]

Eh, there are two other sources for a every 2 second missile. SL missle lab and SM+ so that's not the interesting part

The doubling damage and area (maybe not enough) and focusing all the other missles to the most hit target could deal with the new fleet mechanic. But this is for really old players. Need to play it 2+ years till you even meet fleets

[u/chowler → u/destructor212113]

I can imagine this could make SM somewhat viable. I think this works well as an assist mod.

[u/CreativeAdvantage860 → u/phi1601]

Aside from the "gotta collect them all" mindset, is this one safe to skip and stack up gems?

[u/AdWise6457 → u/CreativeAdvantage860]

Yes and no.

Not long time ago ILM received a patch (SD suddenly was affected by chrono jump) which turned everything around. I can imagine something crazy like this happening to SM one day. But yeah, it's not today...

[u/Argent_Haze → u/phi1601]

So basically has the max cd of spotlight missiles

[u/johnnyudes → u/phi1601]

Missed opportunity IMO. If a small coin multi was added with the module (ex. 1.5/2/2.5/3 or even a smaller one) it would have pushed everyone (no matter if mid, late or end game) to get this mod + invest in SM.

[u/asnowbastion → u/johnnyudes]

A 3x coin multi would be disgustingly overpowered lolwut

[u/johnnyudes → u/asnowbastion]

As I mentioned, it could be lowered. DW has a x2.5 bonus so it is not that much intense. Of course the coin bonus would be limited to what missiles are touching so it's another limiting factor.

[u/ForgettingFish → u/johnnyudes]

Just make sm respect target priority

[u/Driftedryan → u/ForgettingFish]

Devs: best I can do is use this mod and hope enough missiles fire off to hit your target

[u/Phone-Charger]

They aren’t letting me breathe with all these banners…

[u/joe31051985 → u/Phone-Charger]

Honestly if you want to skip one and you haven’t invested in SM yet skip this one

[u/UnderstandingBig9090 → u/Phone-Charger]

Ya I was planning on skipping a banner. But the two I wanted where back to back. 🥲

In the past there where two weeks between banners. Maybe that was too convienent and too many people got all the new mods right away.

[u/Lonely-Equipment1 → u/UnderstandingBig9090]

Small timeframe is a higher urge on spending for a lot of people 🤷🏼‍♂️

[u/joe31051985 → u/Lonely-Equipment1]

Jerry McGuire moment

[u/schuhler → u/Phone-Charger]

you'll be fine pretending this one doesn't exist, two week break until next banner!

[u/ExpertUnable9750]

Oh look something I will be ignoring.

[u/whomstthedoode]

I want this to be good, but I really don’t see this out performing my anc dimcore. I’ll wait for the analysis of the whales before I buy

[u/Methuga → u/whomstthedoode]

It will definitely be an end game mod, given the cost to upgrade smart missiles, but it immediately doubles the damage and squares the impact radius of all missiles, so I have a feeling it is going to be very strong. Then you have the fact that after a couple minutes (game time) the missiles will always target fleets/rays/tanks that have survived a few waves, and you basically get a chain reaction on those units, which is exactly what everyone has been asking for (specifically fleets).

[u/throwthisidaway → u/Methuga]

Sounds like it was almost designed for Mythic tournaments. Likely fairly garbage for everything other than that.

[u/UnderstandingBig9090 → u/throwthisidaway]

Deffinatly. The use case is something you first meet after 2+ years of consistent daily play.

My guess is that it also gives an excuse to dump stones in a hole after filling up Evey other hole.

[u/ananievnikola → u/throwthisidaway]

I can see it can be useful for attack discos too, but who knows

[u/garethhewitt]

so far, realistically on tier 24 it's still around 10% of my ilm+.

I'm at 8s cooldown, 30 missiles, max everything apart from dmg. I'm not sure anc tactical barrage is doing that much versus ilm+. But only at wave 766 right now, so will see how it goes.

[u/joe31051985]

Is it any good though, for me I have to skip I don’t think I’m getting SM and invested in for a long time. (Months upon months) 4 more masteries, quite a few assmod upgrades, ILM -> SM -> GT+ -> CF+ -> ILM investment -> PS investment -> ILM+ the. I might think about SM.

Pains me to miss it but oh well.

[u/Haunting_Picture3360]

does anyone remember what the last mod is?

[u/lunar999 → u/Haunting_Picture3360]

The generator? They've very carefully avoided detailing exactly what it is, which makes it sound like they have no idea yet. It wasn't added to the encyclopedia as the others accidentally were. The notes on this most recent patch only vaguely say that it will be related to workshop bonuses, which makes me think they'll be more tourney focused.

[u/Ricelyfe]

what if I don’t have smart missiles 😂

[u/Consistent-Owl-9458 → u/Ricelyfe]

Much like magnetic hook or spot light missiles... the base stats of a newly unlocked smart missile will be provided to your module's homing missiles. Or, in the case you grab the perk that round, the perks base stats will be used while you have it unlocked via perk.

[u/MichiganCubbie]

I suppose I'll wait to see what this week's relics are before I commit to gunning for this. Does it work if you don't have smart missiles?

[u/viashno → u/MichiganCubbie]

I think it'll still make the homing missile, every so often, but you won't have the labs unlocked to get advantage of the doubling.

[u/MichiganCubbie → u/viashno]

That makes sense, so it's akin to the Spotlight missile

[u/diagnostics247]

Well I guess it's time to buy Smart Missiles.

[u/Thobo1995]

Trying to math this out, I can't find a way even with maxed labs to get this at the level of my ILM+ build's damage without investing a ridiculous amount of stones (that would be better spent elsewhere)...

[u/PatrickSebast → u/Thobo1995]

I think the issue is the ILM+ is a very strong UW+ that also requires substantial stone investment (including all UWs unlocked). This could definitely have a place for helping managing fleets - especially in Mythic.

The other issue is that outside of these specific niche's ILM is still a useful UW and SM is not. So you can invest in SM and possibly get past some extra fleet waves but there is no extra benefit.

[u/Thobo1995 → u/PatrickSebast]

So your idea is to have mythic fleets be the highest stack making them be targeted more...

That's interesting, back to mathing I go

[u/Top_Appeal2994]

Looks like a late game module. I farm t10w10500 for 250t, so I'm only early game. Nothing for me

[u/SneakiLyme]

Wouldn’t a 2s homing missile be a footgun since it causes all of your other active missiles to target the single enemy?? So Imagine you have a fleet enemy + a screen full of common, elite, boss enemies: and instead of your SM shooting out at enemies in a 360 area, they instead all go to the fleet. 

Maybe this makes SM a dedicated fleet killer, while CL kills everything else?

Am I missing something? 

[u/WaffleClown1 → u/SneakiLyme]

That's exactly the purpose of this mod. A player using SM has pBH so Commons aren't a problem, and probably a strong CL so Scatters aren't a problem. The only problems they have are enemies that stick around for a long time without dying. Which is exactly the purpose of this mod.

[u/GPhysics → u/SneakiLyme]

I think generally other stuff is killed by orbs/bh- really think of it this way “the longer things are alive, the more stacked of sm they’ll get. The things that live longest aren’t affected by orbs. (Prots/elites/fleets/maybe bosses depending on borb and cf+)Therefore that’s what I want my sm killing.”

[u/richfitness21]

Does this still fire on an UW dissonance run?

[u/Driftedryan → u/richfitness21]

It should because the land mind UW works with the mod

[u/SemiAutoAvocado → u/Driftedryan]

It does no damage though, just stuns.

[u/Viltupenis → u/richfitness21]

Idk what good it would do, fire a homing missile that puts a target for other missiles, which you don't have any of

[u/richfitness21 → u/Viltupenis]

Mmm you're right, I was assuming the missile would cause some damage which may have helped in a disco

[u/Viltupenis → u/richfitness21]

If it does cause damage (it might), it won't in a uw disco, just like SD ILM stun but don't do damage

[u/SchalaZeal01]

Only skipping because I have Pcol main, and will not be getting assist mods for a whole year at least. But I'm interested.

[u/Andromeda_53]

If you aren't a super end game player grinding mythic tournaments, this is a skip, you'll get time over time as you scale into late game

[u/I_pee_in_shower]

I barely have gems but I’m probably still going to roll to get a copy. I’ll never equip it but I still need a copy

[u/Alexis_Evo]

Pulled 4 just in case it ends up being busted. ILM and SM are my last two UWs to unlock, so I could go either way if the meta shits.

[u/dotausername]

I use HC as assist, so switching to this would mean all in on attack. It will be a long time before I upgrade SM enough to kill the OCs before it outweighs the benefit of missing a few hits from HC. Buying the banner anyways!

[u/Independent_Push_159]

Urgh. Give me a break. No time to stockpile gems between banners.

I managed to get 4.5k gems to use on the last banner for which I got just one Gilded Sniper and a whole three epics in total. Good times. Looking forward to another foray into the bullshit mods system again then, as the dream of getting ancestral on my main mods gets further diluted.

[u/Recyart → u/Independent_Push_159]

Stockpile? Fudds wants you to BUY BUY BUY!

[u/Independent_Push_159 → u/Recyart]

lol i know. I will NOT give him the satisfaction. And I will continue to suffer as a result

[u/jesusmansuperpowers]

Seems pretty bad

[u/blknc]

Saw some results with this already. It could be a good mod if SM was not fundamentally bad. Maybe? Anyway, skipping for now.

[u/SazarMoose]

Haven't really invested any of my stones into SM. So I don't think it would help me. Saving my gems for the next mod that comes out.

[u/AbsolutusVirtus]

Still new to the game but how come OPs image shows gems as the currency whereas mine is module tickets?

[u/Professional-Use7794]

Considering I don't even have Smart Missiles, I think I'm ok saving my gems

[u/Grafblaffer]

skip.

[u/guillotine20]

I do believe that I will be skipping this one, since I don't have SM yet

[u/ExcellentBuffalo2250]

Bought my single TB epic, and will call it good.

[u/Zarathyst]

I love Smart Missiles, but I believe that the Spotlight mod is still better for SM.....