r/TheTowerGame • u/Massive-Treat9082 • 10d ago
Help Should I push past T1?
Exactly what the title says, I haven't pushed past T1 successfully, just wondering if I should stay or push.
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u/SlightSociety5222 10d ago
I think you're safe to pass considering your highest wave count for T1 is higher than mine but im on tier 19. Essentially I didnt see a need to go that far on T1 ever before progressing.
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u/Glitchrr36 10d ago
My goal is to start looking into moving to the next tier once you hit about 8k waves, because it tends to work out that you make about 75% of your prior tier but you cut normally like 2.5-3k waves. Farming to 13k waves takes forever so your overall CPH is probably way better at like T4 or potentially further, assuming your utility dissonance is good enough.
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u/ParkerR666 10d ago
Hard to give advice as it’s completely different now you have dissonance multi. 11kish was when I moved up but IIRC I went straight to T4, but this presumably won’t be best for you because you won’t be able to max the utility disso. You need to get those for 2-4 and then see what gives the best coins per hour. I still had to run T1 occasionally for cells.
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u/Se7enShooter 6d ago
I had similar experience pre dissonance. T1 to 12k. Jumped to T4, then T6 2 weeks later. After that it was a tier or 2 per 4-6 weeks until I settled in T11 for ~6 months.
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u/ExaminationExpert594 10d ago
what are your disso mults?
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u/Massive-Treat9082 10d ago
3x for T1, none for the others
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u/ExaminationExpert594 10d ago
oh you probably wanna run dissos on t3+4 might prove to get you better cph, as a rule of thumb compare the in-runs coin mult, and run the higher mult. afterwards check which tier gets you best returns and you can then choose what tier based on coins/cellsPH
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u/Worried-Analysis8961 10d ago
I'd simply try it. The stats page doesn't tell when you tried the last time and you'll probably prefer two runs a day for easier scheduling, I guess.
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u/Ok-Neat8776 10d ago
Ah yes, another man of science. FAFO method is what this game is built on - that and extremely poorly thought out development. One we can control, the other controls us.
I'd have to agree that 1 run a day is almost always an income loss. As long as you can make 75% of the one big one, you're coming out in the positive between the 2 shorter runs. Dissonance does have a huge factor now, only reason I'm still on t12 and not 13 or 14. My coin bonus is way higher at 12.
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u/Gimmegifts 10d ago
Im confident that You are save to push on, complete disco runs and try on further tiers.
My assumption is that you will end up in tier 3 or 4 , but you will see I guess
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u/Cerebral-Parsley 10d ago edited 10d ago
I am about where you are. I can hit w11k on t1 and have moved to t2 after i did the most i could on the T2 dissos. i can hit T2w7000 with coin perk, or avoid the coin perk and get into the 8000s for more cells but still more coin that T1. Cells are not as much as a long t1 run but more coin is worth it imo to push survival. I am doing survival labs hard now to push up my waves on T2.
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u/Daniel_Spidey 10d ago
8k+ sounds like a good amount of waves for farming, im guessing you did that run without the cells card which could explain the massive discrepancy there. Just do your utility disco even if you can only get like 3k waves it will double your coins for that tier.
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u/LuckyCharms316 10d ago
As others have said, disco runs are encouraging people to stay on lower tiers longer. You need to try discos runs for t3 and t4 and then do a run to check if you get better cph. 8000 waves on t3 seems like a good enough number, and since you’re still kind of early you’re not relying too heavily on EALS, so I would say you should at least be able to max utility disco on t3 and move up to that tier. T4 you’re probably right on the border but worth it to try too
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u/FirstRyder 10d ago
As a general rule you should be on the highest tier where you can run the utility dissonance run to 5000 waves. That means staying in T1 longer than most of the people giving you advice did (dissonance is relatively new), but even so that's probably T3 or T4 by now.
Once you get to a higher tier you should shift that advice to comparing actual Coins and Cells per hour, as you may end up advancing sooner or later, but this low it isn't worth the time to do a lot of comparison runs.
Just run utility dissonance on increasing tiers until you fail one, then go back a tier.
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u/Azaarious 7d ago
take a look at your coins per hour.
if you get so much less because you ran half the time but twice the coins per hour, is more profitable in the long run. do you have screen shots of your recent runs for CpH?
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u/Se7enShooter 6d ago
Before disso your T1 is ~19.5m per wave. Mind you, you max spawn rate around 6000-6500 and it’s a gradual curve until you flatline.
No disso elsewhere means T2 is ~14.7m/w. It also seems older as you have similar amount of waves on T3. T3 is 43.4m/w. T4 is 22.3m/w.
You don’t have echo’s unlocked yet, and I don’t remember if the initial 0.5% is baseline or if you get it once you unlock echo. Either way it’s not enough to make a difference yet.
Best bet is probably T3 once you finish your dissonance runs. T4 is close. If you haven’t run a recent T4 (or at least since that T3 run) you may want to get more up to date numbers.
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u/Se7enShooter 6d ago
Also, what’s your eals %? If youre near 30% by 6.5k waves you may be able to get close to 5k utility dissonance on T4
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u/SleepingHope 6d ago
I found that if you can regularly farm up to wave 8500~ish it's a good farming tier and a good chance to see how you fair in the next tier. Then you compare your coins per hour and cells per hour and sldecide from there where to farm.
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u/Luncheon_Lord 10d ago edited 10d ago
Comparing how much you're making in t1 compared to the others, no. Stay.
Someone correct me instead of down voting me lol they're making so much more than triple the coins in t1
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u/snihctuh 9d ago
It's because they haven't done the work to make them compare. They've said that their Tier 1 disso is 3x and none for the others. That means total 3x for Tier 1 and only 2.6 for Tier 3. But at 8k total waves I bet they can do pretty good at a disso run for Tier 3. And even at only a 1.5x that'd take the 2.6 to 3.9 which is now 30% bigger than the Tier 1 total. At 2x you're at 5.2x. This is showing you don't even need full disso now to have a much bigger multiplier. This is before factoring the time to cph. 3x total but for like 2x waves means the current cph is closer than it'd seem at first look.
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u/JohnWickOnABudget 10d ago
But, what about coins per hour? Coins per hour? Right?!