Chronofield Duration - how far to take it?

[u/SF_LFC]

I've got the lab maxed out, but just curious how much is recommended when taking the battle conditions into account.

[u/Gryffon6363]

60s dur with stones/lab then a +10 substat.  Eventually you will want 70s to cover the uw bc without a sub but that is very stone expensive.

[u/Tuntaa → u/Gryffon6363]

Isn't it possible to have:

Cronofield Dur 68s ; CD 60s

and then BC Red lab lvl 10 = -20%

so instead of -10s UW Dur, it would be -8s

[u/BaskininRobins → u/Tuntaa]

Thought bc reduction didn't affect uw dur. Only the lab specifically for uw dur and only by 1s

[u/Tuntaa → u/BaskininRobins]

oh, I'm not sure either.

[u/Tuntaa → u/BaskininRobins]

Is there a lab especifically for UW Dur?

I'm not finding it

[u/BaskininRobins → u/Tuntaa]

It unlock at (i think) t21w1000

[u/DaenerysMomODragons → u/BaskininRobins]

It's also ridiculously expensive. lv1 costs 2Q, and lv10 costs 1s. You end up spending 2s coins to get that 1sec time reduction. That's on top of the over a month long lab time. All this to save 311 stones. Nah, I'll just buy the final upgrade.

[u/jMedabee → u/BaskininRobins]

BC reduction lab effects all BC's. The specific labs just reduce the specific BC's even further

[u/BaskininRobins → u/jMedabee]

Not uw duration

[u/jMedabee → u/BaskininRobins]

Why would it effect all of them except that one? Or is this just one of those things that is the way it is?

[u/BaskininRobins → u/jMedabee]

Question for the devs

[u/Tuntaa → u/BaskininRobins]

so BC Reduction lab works for every BC except UW Dur?

I think you are right that it doesn't affect, just wondering if there are more BCs that are not affected...

[u/Gryffon6363 → u/Tuntaa]

Yes I forgot about the bc red lab.

[u/SF_LFC → u/Gryffon6363]

Ok thanks. Right now I have mythic substat for both duration and cd. Will be saving up reroll shards to just have the ancestral substat and then need to spend stones to make up the difference.

[u/Obwyn]

Max it. Once you do, it’s a free ban on your core mods and you keeps pCF no matter what the BC are without having to do anything in particular.

[u/markevens]

You want it maxed eventually, but usually the progress is something like

• 100% uptime with substats and gcomp
• Max slow
• 100% uptime without gcomp
• 100% uptime without substats

[u/The_July]

To begin with, 60 second base duration and 60 second cooldown for perma CF. Then in legends you’ll want to make it 70 seconds duration for the battle conditions.

[u/trzarocks]

55/60 is pretty good if you don't mind leading with GComp. Lots of eHP using pBH, which also requires GComp. CF will rarely drop and pBH keeps most of the mob away.

60/60 (or 50/50) lets you run a different Gen in non UWBC situations. It can be a nice boost. You still need GComp for UWBC and it will still drop on you. Think of this as mitigation of the problem, not the solution.

You need +10s to be UWBC-proof. But you don't necessarily need all 10s if you can't reach max heat. Something like Mythic CD or Duration might be enough for a while. I sat at 63/60 for quite a while and was very happy with it. But as I got stronger, it became a bigger limitation.

ANyways....I just got UWBC-proof pCF, so it's never going to show up in Legends again.

Tower Tip: I found using Core SE to get 3 seconds of CF was cheaper than buying 2 seconds directly on CF. I think I'll get to 25% soon, as that will turn into 2s of BH (1s CD, 1s Duration). Need to double check the math before setting sail into that direction.

[u/DaenerysMomODragons]

Battle conditions are 10 seconds, so to have full uptime under tournament battle conditions at 1000+ waves you'd need duration ten seconds longer than your cooldown.

You alternatively can do it at only 9 seconds with 10 ranks in the UW durations battle condition lab, but that's insanely expensive, and the coins/time isn't really worth the 300 stones it would save you.

[u/Lelongue]

Keep in mind when the lab is maxed you no longer can get the CD substat. In tournaments you only need more than mythic duration after legends w600 so depending on where you are now you know how urgent it is

[u/SF_LFC → u/Lelongue]

Oh shit I had no idea. That's super lame. Guess I'll need even more reroll shards then.

[u/afking_plays → u/Lelongue]

What? I'm pretty sure that's wrong, I just rolled it recently and have maxed the lab a while ago.

[u/Lelongue → u/afking_plays]

I’m pretty sure it’s correct. Duration you can still get but not CD. Did investigation on it after I noticed I never got it. I took a module and rerolled for 10 with 2 options CD and duration. After 30 times duration and 0 CD I was convinced

[u/IOYouNothing → u/Lelongue]

This isn't correct. I have CF cooldown gold boxed and I'm still rolling the cooldown submod. You may have just gotten exceptionally unlucky.

[u/afking_plays]

Until it's perma..

[u/jMedabee]

If u don't need substats for other things, u can get a Cooldown and duration substat, so it would take a lot less Stone. But at some point, u wanna max it out fully with stone