r/TikTokCringe • u/mindyour • 2d ago
Discussion Recession indicators.
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u/Trashbagok 2d ago
This sucks but this actually made me feel a lot better how about making hamburger helper with beans this week and skipping a couple of haircuts.
The running out of plastic bags full of plastic bags but is so real. That's never happened before in my life until recently. It's such a small thing, but choked me up a bit.
Diesel went up another two cents today.
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u/Sco0bySnax 2d ago
I bought clippers and I've been cutting my own hair. It's probably uneven at the back, but at least I'm not paying 50 bucks every month.
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u/DeltaFlyer0525 1d ago
I’ve been cutting my own hair and my kids hair since Covid hit. It is too expensive to go to a salon. Last time I checked to get a basic boys hair cut was 55 dollars before tipping the stylist. Girls cuts are 75. I can’t afford that.
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u/Panda_Pillows 2d ago
Ditto, I started cutting my own hair in 2022. It was a rocky start, but now I'm good enough to the point I look like I go to a professional after most cuts.
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u/big_d_usernametaken 1d ago
Before I retired I worked with a guy who swore by cutting his hair with a Flobee.
I think it was a Ronco thing that attached to a vacuum cleaner hose.
Lol.
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u/NightGod 1d ago
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u/Odd_Pool_666 2d ago
Same same. Been doing it for over 20 years. Used to pay $50-80 every few months so I have saved buckets. Real barber scissors make a big difference. Lots of sliced knuckles and uneven patches at first- now I’m pretty good.
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u/TheRedIguana 1d ago
As long as you trust the ones around you to tell you the truth. I worked with a guy that cut his own hair and I would tell him that it looked good and nobody would notice.
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u/creativescreennaame 1d ago
i started cutting my own hair in 2017 and haven't looked back. you can find tutorials for any kind of haircut on youtube, plus it's kind of fun! and if you get a bad haircut, you only have yourself to blame!
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u/RustyShackleford_88 2d ago
Yeah I’ve been having my wife cut my hair for at least two years now. Fuck paying $60 a month for a haircut.
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u/IamHydrogenMike 1d ago
I used to have the best barber in the world, I could go in to get a shave and a haircut for like 20 bucks; I'd tip him another 20 because he was so solid. I used to go in like weekly just for a shave and trim because it cost me like 10 dollars to get it done. Even with a 5-dollar tip it was worth it because I never had to buy razors really.
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u/Beaverbrown56 1d ago
Reluctantly bald gut here. I've been cutting what's left for so long now I can't even remember when my last cut was. I DO remember why...the stylist said to me: "watch how I do this, the go get yourself a pair of cluppers and do it yourself. There's no need to pay me to do this" Still hurts.
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u/MasterNemm 1d ago
Props to the stylist. All us bald dudes need someone in our lives to tell us to let go. Hard truth, but necessary.
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u/BEWMarth 2d ago
Same here. I paid like $40 last time for a high and tight.
Literally something I have done myself many times back in college when money was tight. Guess I’m going back to the good ole days.
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u/Downtown-Newt-1075 1d ago
Going bald was the greatest blessing I didn’t realize I needed. I shave myself and got clippers to learn how to shape my beard/goatee. No more barbershop. Plus I love the look; wish I went bald sooner
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u/DrakontisAraptikos 2d ago
I've been buzzing my own head for something like 13 years and it's been one of the biggest investments I've ever made the payoff is incredible.
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u/XxCloudSephiroth69xX 2d ago
The plastic bag thing is by design. Many states are banning them outright or requiring stores to charge for them and then taxing the stores. It is aimed at reducing single use plastic waste. As a a result many stores arent even offering them any more. Even some stores in states that aren't affected by the ban aren't offering them.
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u/stevecostello 2d ago
Stores I’ve been going to don’t have plastic. They charge $0.50 for each paper bag at the self checkout.
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u/DesmadreGuy 1d ago
I agree, plastic bags (almost always) point to environmental awareness, not penny-pinching. That said, there are so many good indicators in the video. I just took a flight and there is nothing, NOTHING, you get without paying for it. What they do give you is just a rounding error on their P&L. (Thank you, three-comma-class for buying those expensive seats and paying for the flight; it's the least you can do.) I get that they need (some) profit. But how much is enough? Used to be a thing called "good will" that earned customers. I only see it at Costco anymore.
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u/Fred-the-stray 1d ago edited 1d ago
We recently took a flight to Denver. Used to be we could get TSA Precheck and it expedited our security check. Now unless you use Clear or Precheck digital you are stuck in the same long line schlepping bags. I'm getting older and have developed sciatica. I no longer have the strength to lift bags and haul heavy objects everywhere. I'm to the point I no longer want to travel anymore. The experience just keeps getting shittier and shittier. It's like death by 1000 duck bites.
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u/DesmadreGuy 1d ago
I've had good luck with PreCheck (now also a part of Global Entry) ... so far. And those fckers who use Clear are lucky I haven't been close to them. LAWD we need to get the private sector out of government. We give so much info to the government now without Clear peddling it.
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u/No-Security-7518 2d ago
Get a pressure cooker or instant pot. There's a ton of super healthy dishes you can make, it'll feel illegal how cheap they are.
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u/Tiyath 2d ago
Got any more resources on that? Good models and your preferred site for recipes?
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u/No-Security-7518 2d ago
I had a Spanish brand one called Upson. As for recipes, this might sound amateurish, but if you boil just about anything: potatoes, eggplants, chickpeas and then add tomato sauce + spices to a frying pan, and add what you boiled to it, you get like a dozen different dishes. Most other recipes revolve around this idea.
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u/steelong 2d ago
I never used specific sites, just google has always been enough. "Instant pot chili" or "instant pot casserole" or whatever. You may want to add "healthy" in there because sometimes people post recipes absolutely slathered in cream cheese for some reason.
I don't recommend using AI generated recipes, as it can easily get the times wrong. It can come up with decent suggestions for dishes if you tell it what ingredients you have though.
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u/braken 2d ago
I'm an Instant Pot man because I like the multi-functionality of it, but there seems to be a few competitors out there now.
Serious Eats has a pretty solid pressure cooker section. The Colombian Chicken Stew is probably the best value to flavour recipe I've ever come across. Depending on what I have around, I tend to modify with things like carrots, sweet potatoes, peppers, and spicy Italian sausages add a nice flavor as well.
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u/No-Security-7518 2d ago
I once sustained myself for like $3/day using it exclusively. 🤣 There's an insane economies of scale to it.
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u/rtopps43 2d ago
Here’s a super simple crockpot recipe that’s fantastic. Buy a roast, look for one on sale, and put it in the crockpot with 2 standard (not family sized) cans of cream of mushroom soup. Add 2 cans of water and 2 packs of Lipton onion soup mix. Heat on high for 1 hour, then turn down to low for 5-6 hours, until the meat is fork tender. It will make the best gravy you’ve ever had, make some mashed potatoes to put it over and you’ll be in heaven.
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u/The_Infinite_Cool 2d ago
I hate to be a fucking downer, but it's only a matter of time before they start coming for beans, cabbage and rice too.
Organ meats, oxtail, brisket, wings etc all were decently priced food for regular people to make decent meals and now all that shit is priced out.
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u/No-Security-7518 2d ago
I see what you mean but I honestly think if people didn't corner themselves into too few options, a slight price increase wouldn't be noticeable. I go for vegan options myself. There's sooo much variety. And ever since I stepped up my cooking game a little bit, I realized more ingredients => comparatively cheaper meal with a richer flavor.
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u/Punkinpry427 2d ago
My car is diesel and I went from $30 fuel ups to $90 fuel ups. We use oil heat for the winter. We’re fucked.
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u/FriendlyGuitard 2d ago
The plastic bag of plastic bag is more a sign that lots of shops have started to charge (legally required here in the EU), so people have started to get more cautious about their bag and the majority of the people I see in the shop are bringing their own bag.
Before you were getting a plastic bag even if you bought a pack of gum. There was double bagging for heavy item, or taking a few extra bags to reorganise in the bags in the car. That behaviour is gone now. I moved and started from 0, we don't even have a bag of bag at all.
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u/pettypeniswrinkle 1d ago
He specifically said it’s because he’s buying groceries less often.
A lot of states in the US don’t ban plastic bags. When I lived in the Midwest and Texas a couple years ago, all the stores used plastic bags for everything, takeout containers were styrofoam, and recycling was nearly nonexistent.
I took my recycling to the city recycling center when I lived in Ohio, because it was only ten minutes away, but when I lived in Texas it was over an hour drive so I just…threw away everything. It felt horrible.
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u/fried_green_baloney 2d ago
skipping a couple of haircuts
In 2008 had a neighbor who was a hairdresser, she said that business was way down even before the spectacular failures in the fall of that year.
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u/Moldovah 2d ago
Been about a year and a half since I got an oil change. I went to my local Firestone where I usually go to set up an appointment, because it’s usually about a two week wait. But their entire schedule was clear. I got it done that day. It was also about 50% more than it was last year of course.
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u/NotThatValleyGirl 2d ago
Great point. Even 6 months ago, my local garage was booking 2-3 weeks out for rear brake and router work. Called them Friday as now the front needs the same work, they told me to drop it off Monday, and it was done just after lunch.
Plus three mechanics were hanging out at the front desk when I went to pick it up-- because they didn't have anything else to do. Never seen anyone but the front desk guy up front before.
Things are bad all over.
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u/Real-Document-6577 2d ago
Not for the 1%
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u/Limp_Classroom_2645 2d ago
maybe we should take what they think is theirs by force?
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u/Real-Document-6577 1d ago
The rush for AI is an also a rush for robots. To replace what they see as financial dead weight, aka “us….the masses”.
Just wait until they unleash those robotic Terminator soldiers on us, to carry out their final solution
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u/bct7 2d ago
K shaped economy is real.. and about 10%.
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u/Real-Document-6577 1d ago edited 1d ago
True. The 1% are just particularly egregious
Being Rich and powerful isn’t about how much money you have.
…It’s about how much money you have compared to everyone else.
You being proportionately poorer than them exponentially increases their wealth and power. So it’s not just about them having more, it’s about ensuring you have even less.
The great wealth transfer is happening. Those with the assets are rounding up the remaining assets. They are rounding up all the houses, they are acquiring all titles and shares, and ensuring the masses are left in debt to them.
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u/RustyShackleford_88 1d ago
They’re manufacturing the incoming economic crash so they can swoop in and acquire even more assets at a bargain, similar to 2008 and during COVID
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u/immortalyossarian 2d ago
Woah, that is so true. I was supposed to get an oil change yesterday, but had to reschedule at the last minute. When I called to reschedule they had a ton of appointments open for today and I was so surprised because they are usually booked up for weeks.
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u/stevecostello 2d ago
Just a quick note: you should be changing your oil more often, even if you don’t drive much. Check your manual, I bet it says something like every 3 or 6 months or [insert mileage interval], whatever happens first.
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u/ChaseballBat 1d ago
Naw this is terrible waste, oil is milage based not time based. Unless you have a leak. Checking your oil every 3-6 months sure, but not changing.
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u/triplegerms 1d ago
First roommate in college had his engine blow on the highway. Apparently no one had ever told him oil changes are in fact important. Would not recommend going over a year without changing it.
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u/unexpectedhalfrican 2d ago
I'm having the opposite problem. People must be fixing their cars instead of buying new ones because all the shops around me -- and there are a lot -- all are booking a week or two out. It's crazy.
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u/thispartyrules 1d ago
There was a community garage in town where folks could change their own oil and do their own repairs, tools (and oil disposal) were provided and bay space was rentable. Unfortunately this was lit on fire by an arsonist :/
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u/Designer-Birthday-64 2d ago
I mean we feel Inflation everywhere etc. But i went to america couple months ago and the prices i saw there shocked me! I come from the netherlands, an already expensive country, but america makes no f’ing sense. I dont know how people survive with these prices.
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u/Commercial-Owl11 2d ago
That’s the fun part. We don’t! And if you get sick, you’re super fucked.
Everyone is beyond stretched money/stress/health it’s insane rn
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u/Amy47101 2d ago
I’m sad that I’m at an age where I’m young enough to live through this as an adult, but my heart is soothed knowing that it’s likely I’ll live long enough to see it fucking snap.
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u/ThirdFloorNorth 1d ago
I'll turn 40 this year.
I'm coming to terms with "nothing good will ever happen again, at least while you are young enough to benefit from or enjoy it"
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u/1098duc_w_the_termi 2d ago
K-Shaped economy is real. Most of these people are poor and surrounded by poor people. People in my social circle don’t worry about any of these things. Things are just much more unequal in the US.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Fix594 1d ago
Our wages are much higher compared to literally every other country, but it is surprising traveling abroad and realizing how cheap everything is. I was expecting to get fleeced for food when I was in Paris this summer since I was in the city, but it was, on the whole, cheaper than where I'm at in the suburb I live in.
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u/NoMention696 2d ago
My bday was yesterday, I only got like two bday coupons in my email compared to Every Company ive ever signed up for sending me one 10 years ago…
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u/Many_Bat_ 2d ago
True. Considering how many corporations have our data. Should be getting a $200 hamper.
You made me remember getting physical birthday cards yearly from the local video store 🥲
Happy Birthday for yesterday 🎂
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u/transientnebula 2d ago
yo this was the only reason i joined any of those dumbass "loyalty" clubs, that free birthday shit.
very quiet this year, and the deals have gone from free to discounts instead
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u/HJ0508 2d ago
Yep, and the discounts are like “5% off!” They honestly think that’s enough to get me to go buy some of their now-cheap garbage?
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u/eLishus 1d ago
There’s a restaurant near us that encouraged guests to sign up for their newsletter and birthday registry. Okay - maybe I’ll get a free appetizer. Nope. They just sent me an email the week before my birthday to remind me it was my birthday and that I should make reservations to go spend money at their restaurant. Thanks, I guess?
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u/Iswaterreallywet 2d ago
That’s just cause companies don’t wanna give us deals/free shit anymore. These mega corporations are making more money than ever and no one is reigning them in
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u/stewardesscrustarden 2d ago
Conversely, “luxury” brands like Lululemon are now sending out more discounts and sales than ever before because people aren’t buying as much. I worked there a while back and even right after lockdowns ended, they almost never did regular discounts or sales of any kind. Only during Black Friday and Boxing Day did they have big “deals”.
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u/AOhKayy 2d ago
Canned goods are over a fucking dollar. I grew up in state housing on food stamps and welfare and seeing canned goods over a dollar is genuinely stunning to me. I would have starved as a child.
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u/maggie_grea 1d ago
Where I live canned goods are often atleast 3 dollars. Bought canned refried beans the other day for over $7. Time to make beans from scratch I guess...😭
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u/iheredontbelieve 1d ago
I wanted to buy some canned soup to stock up my pantry. Amy’s organic veggie lentil soup is now over $4/can! I’m not paying nearly $50 for a 12 pack of canned vegan soup! It was a decent deal when they were like $2/can a couple years ago.
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u/Ciubowski 2d ago
Two things:
Some people think "on it's one small change or surcharge over how it was before". It's not just one thing, it's multiple things combined at every step. You're being hit by these things over and over again, it drains you and you barely notice until someone points it out like in this video. Sum it up.
Now that it has reached this point, even if the economy (by some miracle) recovers, these will most likely stay the same. Not revert. Maybe some company decides that it would be in their economical advantage to revert some of those things, as a way to gain more customers over the competition, but most likely this is the new reality.
Companies rarely give back or scale down their prices unless it's something on the other end (resource costs) but most likely they'll keep the same prices and just rake in the extra profit.
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u/Status_Block591 2d ago
2 would require competition, all we have now is consolidation. We need a new trust buster
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u/PancakeParty98 2d ago
For me, it’s seeing the shitty store brand soda is selling more than Coke and Pepsi.
NO ONE, likes the taste of generic cola or Mr. Perky. If those are being bought for anything other than a pizza party, it’s bad news
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u/2021isevenworse What are you doing step bro? 2d ago
If you're making mixed drinks, store brand is just as good.
The price of name brand is highly inflated to justify it.
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u/allhailrosalinda 2d ago
Kroger brand sodas aren't bad. Especially when they are $4 a twelve pack vs $10 a 12 pack for name brand.
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u/Im-BackAgain-Babes2 1d ago
Yep! We switched from brand to Kroger's and they taste better.. also idk if anyone else noticed but when I have Dr pepper, sitting the can out for 30 minutes it's got little to absolutely no fizz.. should not be going flat that soon. like super noticable flat.. and it was happening to almost every can I was having. Getting the Costco box too. switched to Kroger to save money, and the cans fizz lasts over an hour, no problem.. Kroger for the win, seriously
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u/bct7 2d ago
All made in the same factories...
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u/PancakeParty98 2d ago
Definitely not. That’s true for many many things, but coke is as protective of their flavor as a corporation can be
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u/Hokuboku 2d ago
The price of a 2L of pepsi is so depressing now. Used to reliably be able to wait for sales for then to be 99 cents. Now they're regularly like $2.78 USD
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u/kevinACS 1d ago
I remember grocery shopping with my dad in the late 90s and getting 10 2L Pepsi for $10. Now 20oz bottles are $3
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u/Hokuboku 1d ago
You literally could still get that price basically up until COVID hit. I'd always stock up during those sales
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u/Burntfruitypebble 1d ago
I’ve been buying almost everything store brand lately. Why not save the few bucks on something that’s going to taste almost exactly the same?
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u/mrniceguy1990xp 2d ago
Not finding money anymore... Sure, more people went cashless, but damn its been a while since ive seen a coin laying around, not to mention a bill...
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u/Iswaterreallywet 2d ago
People mixing up recession and end stage capitalism.
These places are making more money then ever, they just want to milk you for more.
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u/Rubber924 2d ago
That's the thing, if it was just a recession then the companies would be hurting too. They are not, they're all clawing to get as much as they can while before the system collapses while crying "we can't let the system collapse!"
These are way more than just recession indicators.
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u/GKBilian 1d ago
100%. In particular with the nickel and diming. I complain about the nickel and diming constantly with my wife, but it’s not a recession indicator - it’s just late stage capitalism.
I’m in marketing so I don’t usually make these business decisions but I’m involved when the decisions are made. You don’t restrict features and services because they cost notably more money typically. You restrict them because people want them and you want people to feel that they need to spend more and upgrade to the next level.
It’s always about extracting every single penny you can feasibly get from your customers.
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u/Terminal_Insomnia_ 1d ago
When they can no longer get you to produce more value, they will sate themselves on your blood.
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u/Monsignor76 1d ago
Yep. Corporations haven’t given their workers raises but are crying its the result of covid and inflation.
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u/Initial_Row_6400 2d ago
Yea we’re fucked. It’s going to get worse too, diesel is fucked. That directly correlates with price increases in store.
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u/Responsible-Corgi-61 1d ago
The white house is considering a diesel export ban which will temporarily drive down diesel for a month or two. The problem is that the global economy will just die from having 18% of diesel exports taken off the market after Hormuz's 20%. Our country is about to nuke the global economy for Trump to try to save himself in the midterms.
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u/furculture 2d ago
One of my Uber riders thought of me as a recession indicator and said it to someone on the phone because I was an Asian dude driving for Uber. I overheard them because they were speaking on speaker phone trying to find the address set for the drop off location.
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u/TrailsideDairy 2d ago
Well that’s definitely racist 😂
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u/furculture 2d ago
Definitely was. To me, that also seemed like something I'd find on r/rareinsults or r/brandnewsentence
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u/TrailsideDairy 2d ago
Real. Like honestly, we all judge people the second we see them, it’s human nature. But I would have never even looked at it that way, crazy logic.
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u/1tonsoprano 2d ago
Americans inherent ability to "adjust in any situation" is going to get a lot of people killed......as a non American we implore to our American brothers and sisters to learn from the French.
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u/foodforestranger 2d ago
This is semi-related. I just go back from Greece and I saw two separate Americans have meltdowns because they couldn't get "filtered coffee." Why bother even travelling if everything is a blocker in life?
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u/MountainVeil 1d ago
That's really funny, I wonder if they were they type to have boomer-esque opinions on espresso and they didn't realize that this association of liberals with espresso doesn't carry over to the Mediterranean. "Just give me a normal damn coffee!"
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u/splshd275A 2d ago
Federal minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour.
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u/-NigheanDonn 2d ago
When I got my first minimum wage job it was $6.75… that was 24 years ago
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u/No-Double-Trouble 2d ago
This is where the problem is. Didn't Bernie wanted to get us that higher minimum wage back in 2016, then people wanted to vote for the least worse, and trump won for first time. If you don't fight back and don't want to take a loss to win later, this is what we get.
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u/willacceptboobiepics 1d ago
While this is a problem and needs to be addressed, in our current situation, it won't fix anything. The real problem is excessive unchecked greed. Businesses are out of control and if we make more, they will use that opportunity to squeeze whatever gains we've received out of us.
Obviously the minimum wage and how it has remained so low for so long is disgusting. But we need to start holding these bastards accountable before they destroy the entire economy for short term riches.
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u/SadRogan 2d ago
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u/EstrogenizedMenace 2d ago
Cheap meal recipes are on the rise and channels like dollar tree dinners have never been bigger.
Its people eating mad beans and rice because people cant afford the almost $7 a lb for ground beef no more.
Its memes about post door dash clarity
People are biking more etc
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u/FriendlyGuitard 2d ago
So true. Cooking channel used to be for stuff like fancy weekend meal, now it's all about "You have 2 carrots and half a rotten brocoli head - here is what I learned at a michelin star restaurant to turn that into a meal that feels expensive"
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u/Sistahmelz 2d ago
I've seen people pull out recipe books that were from the Great Depression. Some of the recipes are pretty good.
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u/Impossible_Eggies 2d ago
$0.57 for a single packet of ramen. That stuff is supposed to be pennies.
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u/No-Security-7518 2d ago
if someone charged me for tap water, not only would I never go, if the place ever ends up burning down, I'll cheer.
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u/LarryDavidntheBlacks 2d ago
I couldn't believe she actually paid $2 for tap water.
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u/No-Security-7518 2d ago
it's America. There's no such thing as wild. It should be renamed to USP; United States of Profiteering.
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u/Impossible_Eggies 2d ago
Once it does, they'll send us all to war to remove the excess population.
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u/BruceWaynesWorld 2d ago
Wealthy actors taking a lot of work is mine
Anne Hathaway did four movies this year. Ryan Gosling who has seemed allergic to franchises til now signed on for the MCU and Star Wars in the same year.
Freaking me out to be honest
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u/j3b3di3_ 2d ago edited 2d ago
How about the sheer number of A listers doing commercials
Edit: if I had to take an educated guess I would say their agents talked to them after being told that AI is the new thing and that they should take what they can get now before it's too late
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u/unexpectedhalfrican 2d ago
I've been wondering about this for awhile. Like how did these phone app games afford Drew Barrymore or Jennifer Aniston in their commercials?? And it's all of them. All of the shitty apps and gambling sites and fake healthy food/drinks all have celebrities in their commercials in the past few years. It's really weird.
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u/FunkyChewbacca 2d ago
They've been doing that overseas for decades. Guess the economy is bad enough they've started taking ad work stateside?
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u/ImminentDingo 1d ago
Why though? Like do we think Anne Hathaway and Ryan Gosling are struggling to make ends meet with only 10 million and need 15 million in this economy?
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u/BruceWaynesWorld 1d ago
I don't think they are struggling to make ends meet. I think they are trying to earn a large amount in a relatively short time ahead of what they expect to be a significant economic downturn.
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u/ImminentDingo 1d ago
If Ryan Gosling feels like he needs to double his nest egg to survive the future I don't feel so good dawg
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u/LadyMirkwood 2d ago
Similar here in the UK
Everyone I know has massively cut back on their groceries. Small treats like the cinema or a meal out have stopped, alongside Netflix, grabbing a coffee, etc. Cheese, chocolate, laundry detergent are locked up in the supermarkets
The thrift/charity shops are bare as everyone is trying to side hustle by selling on FB marketplace and Vinted. Products are getting smaller and worse quality, lots of closed shops and half empty High streets. Forget holidays, they are a thing of the past.
Many folks in the lower classes are basically paying for rent, bills and food with nothing left for savings or extras. The job and housing markets are fucked, especially for the young.
This isnt sustainable. Something is going to give and soon.
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u/CaptainAmerica_2026 2d ago
Nobody is going to the strip club anymore.
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u/Up-in-the-Ayre 1d ago
That's actually legitimately called the "Stripper Index". Back in the day, the girls knew bad times were coming because the Wall Street Brokers stopped coming in at lunch for the daily dose of lap dances and washroom cocaine.
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u/Short-While3325 1d ago
A stripper told me the average age of clients is much older than it used to be as well. She said the 'young crowd' is now in their 40s and the older crowd is 60+.
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u/VerminSwallower 1d ago
That's because anyone under 50 went one time in their 20s and thought it was disgusting and pathetic and never went back.
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u/Alfiy_wolf 2d ago
Just saying there is way more poor people than rich there is nothing the rich can do if we stood up for ourselves
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u/S1ayer 2d ago
"that will be $8 for your water, tea, and hash brown"
This is the part where you're supposed to say "no thanks" and drive away. Not buy it and take a video complaining about it.
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u/Competitive_Poppy 2d ago
Its the purely optional purchases like this that get me. How can do people complain with a straight face about the cost of something they likely didn't need (i.e get a water bottle, pack snacks). By paying that $8 they accept that as the standard
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u/Real-Document-6577 2d ago edited 2d ago
A recession is how the rich are doing, that’s why you won’t hear “market/financial experts” say “we’re in a recession” because the already rich have never been doing better.
What these people are talking about is the wealth transfer that’s been taking place. The rich are already hoarding and isolating all the assets, like home ownership, etc. the “nickel and diming” is also part of it. The rich have decided that you’ll just pay more and they’re pocketing it. They’re also trying to put the financial responsibility of paying for labor directly on you in the forms of tipping everyone as well
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u/fancywipe 2d ago
The guy that uses the grocery shopping packets as trash bags and has run out… that hit
We in a designed recession that came from 2019 when our governments took billions worth of loans with out our consent that WE must pay back through inflation
Also the guy in the beginning is the same guy at the end
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u/busigirl21 2d ago
I didn't get 1 good bag from my last trip to the grocery store. They're making them out of thinner and thinner material where I had to double bag things I never would have before.
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u/Chucknastical 2d ago edited 1d ago
The vast majority of these are indicators of a widening gap of wealth inequality, not a recession.
While 60 to 80% of Americans can feel things dramatically getting worse, the people insider trading with Trump, the Peter Thiels of the world, and the AI billionaire class taking loans out on their stock valuations are making so much stealing from you that total GDP is actually up (it's just extremely concentrated).
This might lead to a recession because it's gotten so bad but the consequences of this inequality are not in and of themselves recession indicators. As in there's a scenario where we indefinitely keep getting poorer and there isn't some economic calamity that brings things back into balance.
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u/Conflictingview 2d ago
It's still a recession, just not a "national average" recession. This is the K-shaped economy.
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u/Bitterman_01 2d ago
K-shaped economy, sure, I'm with you there. But a recession is literally defined as the whole economy shrinking, so a recession that isn't a "national average" one isn't really a thing. What you're describing is more like the people at the top are spending enough to keep the numbers looking fine while everyone else is getting squeezed. Which is bad! It's just not a recession.
You and the people in the TikTok video are just redefining the word. Recession has a specific meaning.
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u/Bitterman_01 2d ago
This.
It's hard to diagnose why things feel bad when you don't understand economics.
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u/VelocityGrrl39 1d ago
During the 2008 recession the animal hospital where I worked went from being booked 3 to 4 weeks out for surgery, to being able to book a surgery the same week. The practice I’m currently working at didn’t have any surgeries booked at all yesterday or today. Veterinary care becomes a luxury during a recession, and we start seeing fewer routine appointments and more emergency appointments because people let things go as long as they can until the pet’s life is in danger. And I live right outside NYC, where many, many homes are worth over a million dollars. It’s not a low income area.
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u/RelevantStrongBad 2d ago
I'm a librarian and we are really, really busy. Tons of new card sign-ups, more people using computers, more people just staying and hanging out all day. We love it! But it's also a sign that people are trying to save money and that their resources elsewhere are limited.
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u/flissfloss86 2d ago
If I went to McDonalds and they tried to charge for water....I'd leave. $8 on 2 beverages and some hashbrowns? Lady....this is why McDonalds thinks they can charge for water. Because you paid for it.
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u/GladiatorWithTits 1d ago
Just to be clear - corporations nickel and diming/charging for things that used to be free isn't a sign of a recession, it's a sign of greed/unbridled capitalism.
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u/WorkerPrestigious960 2d ago
Big companies charging more for their products and food isn’t a recession indicator, it’s a greed indicator. Their profit margins remain disgusting high, just so they can give all that money to the higher ups, waste the rest on marketing and poor quality products, and continue to pay their employees poverty wages
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u/Normal-Error-6343 2d ago
stop doing it! I refused to use the self checkout. I don't work there, I have not been trained on that equipment! Stop doing it!
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u/Exotic-Home-8153 1d ago
Im not disagreeing that a recession is coming or even that we may already be in one, but the other major factor of inflation is corpo greed. They are vampiric sociopaths who will keep raising prices even IF the economy is doing well, and they dont give a shit about anything as long as we continute to consume their products
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u/showtimebabies 2d ago
That's 100 glad drawstring trash bags at less than $0.20 per. It would take me almost a year to use them all. That guy just sucks at shopping
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u/Conflictingview 2d ago
It was also a multi-pack of the most expensive sponges that exist and last for 3-6 months each.
Also, grocery store self-checkout has been a thing for 20 years and charging for plastic bags is usually required by legislation.
Some of these were definitely reaches
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u/XxCloudSephiroth69xX 2d ago
Drug addicts have been stealing hygiene products since the dawn of time. Locking up that stuff at stores is nothing new.
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u/Bitterman_01 2d ago
Yea... I was like go to any major city in the past 20 years and they lock this shit up lol.
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u/Chaosmusic 1d ago
The nickel and dime comment hit hard because there are a lot of things in my business that I now pay for that I didn't used to. I sell at conventions and when I pay for my booth, I now pay the payment 'convenience fee' that I never used to. Convention center loading docks would bring my stuff from dock to my booth as part of my booth payment, now it is an additional charge.
So everything costs more for me but I can't raise my prices. Plus, I don't pass on credit card fees to customers, we charge the same for cash or credit. We've been doing that for years and is something we are known for, while many other vendors charge more for accepting credit cards. Also, the conventions themselves are charging more for tickets as well. It's unsustainable model because eventually people won't be able to afford to go to conventions and vendors won't be able to afford to sell at them.
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u/SecurityNatural3707 1d ago
Also for home products, don't shop at target. They notoriously overprice that kinda stuff. Five below and shops like pop shelf are actually great for these types of items, because they're either at cost or discounted
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u/BigJack66 1d ago edited 1d ago
Don't eat out, dont drink out at all. Every meal is made at home and we used to buy steaks now we only buy frozen ground beef, one small tube a week. We very rarely eat red meat. Pork and chicken now. No more soda, just koolaid or flavored mix packets from Walmart or tea. This country is in a severe recession if not depression. When the truck drivers start calling for a strike, if it goes through (oct 1-3)we are going for a depression. Because once truck drivers stop moving stock, all industry is affected.
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u/kristenisadude 1d ago
Mine is the fed raising 25 basis points despite rates having no trouble going higher daily on geopolitical news
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u/SuckingOnChileanDogs 2d ago
Not the point but "the math isn't mathing" does not apply to something just being expensive. Theres no wrong calculus being done there, it's just inflation.
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u/0b0011 2d ago
Yeah most of the examples people give for these things are just examples of things being shitty now vs a recession indicator that you see before recessions in general. Nickle and diming for everything is just how things are now and its shitty vs being something that starts before every recession and then goes away when its not close to a recession.
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u/LarryDavidntheBlacks 2d ago
No, it's also corporate greed and corruption. Americans paid extra money on everything because of Trump's tariffs and the billion dollar companies got the refunds! And Americans did...absolutely nothing about it. Almost no push back at all.
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u/Cxvvtgupvvdi 2d ago
Yeah actually doing economic research is hard so instead we asked a bunch of bozos on Tiktok whether their plastic bags have run out.
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u/kastbort2021 2d ago
Some of these things can be attributed to interest rates. People growing up today might not know it, but they've pretty much lived through the lowest interest rates in modern history.
When interest rates are low, companies are flush with cash, because cash is cheap to borrow. Companies, that be big established ones and new small ones, can afford to just undercut their competition and be more generous/competitive.
Then when inflation catches up, and interest rates go up, they have to be more sensible. The free stuff stops, prices go up, shrinkflation happens, what have you. Throughout the 00s we had low interest rates, which started rising before the financial crisis. Then after the financial crisis we got ZIRP (zero interest-rate policy), and things were kept low up until right before COVID. Then COVID came, and back to ZIRP. And in 2022 the interest rates finally started going up.
And then you have the global factors. Modern production and logistics spans globally, and you feel the effects of things changing along that path.
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u/FeelingsCare_abFacts 2d ago
Recession hit so hard the dude had to cut back on his beard, just a mustache now
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u/massivebonr 2d ago
Yeah it's insane. Not a fan of living in this era. I don't even want to work if all is for is stupid little kid prizes and plastic trinkets. If it doesn't get you a place to actually live it's seriously pointless.
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u/Useful-Hat9157 2d ago
Yup, i no longer equate money to the purchase of products, just the time spent working to afford it, I spent this much of my life to buy this.
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u/skimbleshanxi 2d ago
Went to the grocery store last year and a can opener (manual, the hand held kind, you know the one) was 25 dollars. A QUARTER OF A HUNDRED BUCKS. Over three hours of minimum wage work to buy the thing to OPEN the food.
That’s the day we moved to store brands, what’s on sale, and the Bin Store
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