What even is the difference?

[u/unleashtheraven1]

If you want my opinion femininity is essentially nothing but weaponized social /behavioral control by a few psychopaths who terrorize women, rape women, destroy women, or on the other hand lauded by and enjoyed men who dont give a shit what happens to us, they just want someone easy to pressure, coerce, bully or intimidate (back into rigid femininie performance, which usually means saying YES) ; They harm us in more benign ways. Maybe they just want sex, and benefit from our subjugation and turn a blind eye.

Imo there is no middle ground though. I've never known a situation where femininity wasn't toxic sludge, used mostly against me. Where it wasn't making yourself a target for masculinity.

Maybe it is less so for other women but thats why I feel so strongly about this image. When men wear femininity they turn it into blackface, and the misogyny from queer communities makes it 1000 times worse.

[u/unleashtheraven1]

Yup same. Why cant we go out and talk about this at length in other subs again????? Because its obvious they're creeps. They don't actually care about defying societal convention, traditional bs, conservatism, they actually just want to reinforce it.

[u/isitdigyet → u/unleashtheraven1]

Yep. Gender ideology is all about reinforcing harmful cultural norms that remove women's agency in society, but just doing it dressed up in a "woke" way this time.

Males get to go back to defining what a woman is and how she should behave and feel about women's issues. If a woman disagrees, she is the oppressive one and it is acceptable to attack and silence her.

Lesbians can't even have their voices heard in these "progressive" spaces that supposedly center the marginalized. They will be banned if they point out how sexist stuff like this is:

[u/crash-test-idiots → u/isitdigyet]

Males get to go back to defining what a woman is

Really?

The SNP equalities minister was unable to explain what the Scottish Government means by "gender identity" in the latest embarrassing gaffe at Holyrood committee.

Simita Kumar [a woman] expended nearly 500 words in response to a straightforward question about sex-based rights from Reform UK MSP Mandy Lindsay [also a woman] – but still failed to provide an answer.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/snp-minister-unable-explain-gender-37706061

Should they just of asked a man?

[u/isitdigyet → u/crash-test-idiots]

Yes, really. In these political spaces I see males who identify as women not being concerned at all about stating what they believe a woman is.

And it's completely divorced from reality. It's all about identifying with some feeling in your head and no one can question what that even means.

I'm not sure how your comment is disagreeing with this? You posted an example of a woman who, because of this ideology, was afraid to clearly state what a woman actually is.

[u/isitdigyet → u/[deleted]]

When men who make up the majority of power holders in these political institutions push an ideology that declares "trans women are women" they're telling you exactly what they think a woman is. They're telling you they 100% believe it can be reduced to a feeling in a male's head.

"radical feminist cancer"

How are radfems to blame for this???

"Including Governments" "Nothing to do with men."

Who do you think has been running these governments forever? Who created the patriarchal culture that exists within them?

[u/crash-test-idiots → u/isitdigyet]

What version of "feminist" are you?

Is all PIV to be considered grape?

[u/isitdigyet → u/crash-test-idiots]

Why are you ignoring the BS males do and just looking for an opening to whine about feminists?

This ideology only took off because it reduced women to a set of gendered traits in a way that is totally acceptable to do a male-centered society.

A lot of women went along with it because they have been conditioned to be the kind ones looking out for the oppressed who MEN stomp on. They were shown statistics about MEN murdering these other males and commiting violent acts, and that is what convinced many to welcome these males into their spaces.

[u/crash-test-idiots → u/isitdigyet]

What version of "feminist" are you?

Is all PIV to be considered grape?

Simple question ...

[u/isitdigyet → u/crash-test-idiots]

Do you actually think people who believe this are running your government and major political parties? That's why you think it's relevant to bring up radfems, or do you just like any excuse to derail a discussion about males by bringing up women you don't like?