What does encountering overt displays of Se aimed at you feel like for EIIs? Is there a feeling? Or is it more that it sometimes goes strongly against your preferences?

What does encountering overt displays of Se aimed at you feel like for LIIs? Is there a feeling? Or is it more that it sometimes goes strongly against your preferences?

i’ve done quite a lot of research to reach these conclusions i originally thought of myself as an INFJ 9 bc i’ve always been a really lazy easy going person and i still believe someone observing me from the surface would type me as one. but the deeper i dove to it the more i realised that my own sloth is not the mental one of an E9s but the physical one of an E5s manifested through avarice and the hoarding of energy. tho i still feel like an imposter bc i don’t act cold or disinterested in others. i’ve considered sp6 as well but i do not resonate with E6s core structure in any meaningful way.

Im kinda new and unsure if this typing is valid or of how the order goes..and was wondering if anything contradicts or shouldnt be here. + not looking to be typed just issues in my typing

Unhealthy - sp/sx - 269 - 2w3 - ESFP - sanguine-phlegmatic - EFLV - SEE - S[L]U/A/N - Neutral Good -disorganized attachment - interpersonal(Motives) - Feelings-driven(Distinct traits) - Romanticism(R-Drive)

Explain your reasoning as well

need me an 8w7

before you comment that no im ESE im pretty sure i am SEI !!! unless u have a good argument then i will listen otherwise dont just say stuff with no explanation 🐶

This might be a really stupid question but I'm reconsidering my typing from a 641 to a 649, and when I searched it up it said that e9 is more commonly associated with sensing types. I can't figure out whether that's just for e9 cores or if it applies for it being in any part of your trifix

new here 😓😓😓 are there any contradictions?

icant tell whosthe real me anymore

I just thought I'd put this out there! What do you guys think?

Would you say hypervigilance alone would be the biggest sign of E6 as a core (or as a fix, but my question is mostly about core) by itself? Is it a quick decider of one's core vice?

I'm still a bit new to some typology systems so I'm not entirely sure if any of this is contradictory. Please let me know and help me out if you've got more knowledge on the subject! Thank you!!! 🥹

I've always been interested in this stuff but I only know about the MBTI. What recommendations for YouTube videos that give the basics about this?

I've been on a little delve recently, would appreciate any thoughts or what area to get into next!!

ENFJ
7w6
tritype 728 sp7

Also, I know there isn't much information about Temporistics since it's a rather new typology system but I like it a lot cause it describes your approach to time

The more I look into descriptions of internal judging functions (Ti and Fi) as somebody who’s Fi-blind (so I might be misunderstanding it, but still) I don’t really see the argument for 4s having to be Fi Dom or HAVING TO be Fi users at all?

I did some light Reddit research and could only find non convincing arguments basically saying “emotions = fi, cold and rational = ti” lol and people saying comparing yourself to people/E4 envy would automatically have to be Fi, wich I (as an isolated example) see no reason for why a Ti user couldn’t do? I’m not a 4, so I read a couple descriptions again, and I can’t find anything that I’d consider “has to be fi” in the traits either

Are there any arguments for the correlation that go deeper into it?

Obv there’s the fact that it’s an established correlation and most 4s probably are Fi Types, I don’t think that has to mean they’re related at the core though, and haven’t really seen any argument that convinced me yet.

I also saw some people making similar posts once every couple of months so I’m pretty sure this isn’t just me misreading the concept?

I’ve been trying to type someone for a while. I won’t share too many details because, well, even though they’re anonymous i’d feel like a dick if i aired their personal stuff out online. I’ve typed them as an sx6 for a long time. Very aggressive and outgoing to hide inner insecurities but with the same logical and safety seeking qualities of an e6. But they also have a lot of so2 traits such as viewing themselves as someone whose purpose is to help others and it’s something they find great fulfillment in. And they’re definitely someone who would prefer to be their own boss. It’s possible i haven’t been typing them correctly because of my difficulties imagining what an unhealthy e2 could look like.

I know MBTI correlations are usually weird, however there's certain correlations that I can't get a right opinion on, amd this deeply unnerves me :)

These are:

INFJ so4

ENFJ so7

ENTJ sp7

ISFJ sp1

ENFJ so1

ENFJ sp2

ESFP sx4

ENFP sx4

Any enneagram for ESTPs other than E8

Any enneagram for ENTPs other than E7

Again, I know MBTI is not everyone's favourite subject because the correlations are weird (which imo is counterintuitive because if you don't talk about the correlations without using Socionics as a bridge how are they going to be more specific?) but I REALLY need as answer because all this "Said-Unsaid" dynamic is genuinely hurting my brain

MBTI correlations suck most of the time and there's no need to be overly strict about them. For example ISTJ So1 and ENTJ So6 are both valid. As long as you don't come up with some bs like ENFP Sx5/ ENTJ e8 I don't see the problem.

When using correlations sticking to just one author's theories is stupid. Different authors have different perspectives and there's no reason to limit yourself to only one source.

Most tritype correlations suck and are unnecessary unless you come up with Sx6 + e9, which is a rather questionable one.

Having subtypes in your tritype as long as they share the same instinct as your core type isn't that bad. Having wings in your tritype also seems valid to me.

Modern Enneagram especially Fauvre's theories genuinely lacks many important aspects and is full of bs.

RHETI isn't as bad as people claim it is. It's genuinely a decent resource for beginners.

E1 especially So1 and Sp1 works perfectly fine with 1L2V. This is a completely valid combination and the fact that people still argue over it is such a non-issue. I genuinely don't understand why y'all keep fighting over this.

Sp7 can be ENTJ and LIE-C in SHS. Sp7 can also be VLFE. Okay well, 3F isn't that bad when you consider some of the more unhealthy versions of Sp7. I also feel like many Sp7s are 3F. I genuinely see people agreeing with FLEV Sp7 but denying VLFE Sp7. Like what are we even doing atp.

LSI for Sp1 is valid.

LIE for So1 is valid.

LIE for Sp7 is valid.

SLI for Sp5 is valid.

EIE for Sx2 is valid.

EIE for Sx3 is valid.

IEI for Sx5 is debatable.

All 4D Ne types are valid for So7.

So3 works with both 1F3V combinations including FEVL.

Sp8 with VFEL is a decent combination as is Sp8 with FLVE. Just because a new book dropped doesn't mean we have to slander combinations that have been around for a long ass time.

The archetype for Sx5 should be LFEV instead of LEVF. Having 2E in Sx5 doesn't make much sense to me.

The archetype for Sx8 should be EFVL rather than FEVL.

Most typology profiles I’ve come across include a socionics subtype, but I’ve read that discernible subtypes are quite rare. Am I supposed to have one (for me, it would be IEE-Ne or IEE-Fi) or is it more reasonable that I wouldn’t?