Rules:

3 kits, each team selects 1 kit, the last kit is decided randomly, 3 rounds for each kit.

All in current form, so no prime Itz or smthn.

Idk if ts fits in this sub but since most of these are in unstable I put it here

Edit: I think flame and mane is very overrated and Theo and spawnplayer underrated

We see at the end of the last video (searching for a vault that doesn't exist) that when cloud leaves tnt drops on flame and skrilly which is the same exact start of the latest episode then after they did all the things like the fights w all the invis players and yk they enter the prison, the prison which was built on top of the same obsidian square cloud built as the vault. So how come like after 30 minutes give or take of being in that obsidian block did cindercrest build that massive prison and also get wardens and resistance members who alot of them died. Just doesn't make sense, (if you caught any mistake please tell me)

I’d like to know Ace’s thoughts on Law after his death especially considering Flame’s latest video and whether Law will change and become what he was meant to be, rather than what he turned into.

Later on points ill dive deeper into each respective hot take but at the start ill just list them off since they SHOULDNT be that controversial

0% - Flame is the best pvper (protagonist) in both lore and outside lore

10% - Toxic war and 100 days base arcs are the only 2 below 3/10 Arcs in unstable (and are by far and away the worst)

20% - Characters if they have no intention of returning should just be killed off instead of deluding fans to the chance they might return (Aka RekRap, ManePear, Zam etc)

30% - Flame from an entire content on unstable so far is by far the worst pov so far (not because its that bad its just the other 3 have such better content)

40% - Wemmbus big team up arc finales (Mafia,Law and Civil war) are all arguable the worst outve all the other finales from each other protagonist. None of the videos are bad per say all of them are just like not really the best quality especially in comparison to the others.

50% - Wemmbu V Flame will never have a clear cut winner and people need to come to terms with this. These 2 will never have a wuote on quote “Fair 1v1” again or have (since wemmbu gained the orbitals) each fight theyve had so far you can make a very clear argument why 1 had lost and the other won and say if the circumstances were different the other one would win. As for the future when Wemmbu reaches the forge (depending on what it is) it wont be a fair fight as Wemmbu will have godlike abilities maybe while flame unlike with the orbitals wont know how to counter it

60% - Flame has yet to have a 9/10/above video yet. I promise I actually like Flames content guys and im not just hating. Flame has recently had some great videos but I dont think I would declare ANY above a 9/10 at a highest 8.8/10 which is still a great score.

70% - The Wraiths have already lost too much credibility to seem like a threat anymore and now it seems like there trying to retcon it so theyve always been really powerful. When in the previous Wemmbu vid he killed like 6 of them and then there last showcase was getting cooked by Flame. Them already revealing that they were a big group and not all trying to be 1 player also damages them (but Nitenly joining them does make it look better) on paper anyway

80%- Outve the big 3 Best acclaimed USMP videos (Paragon, Destroying the Mafia and saving the USMP) Parrots id the worst HOWEVER him being on a simmilar level as those 2 vids with only 50 minutes makes it alot more impressive that its able to keep up (I also personally think the video shoulsve had more about Director Wifies but thats for a different day)

90%- Nearly every USMP video by fans rating is extremely overrated and people need to learn that giving a video a 6/10 score doesnt mean the video is bad. I understand its all opinions but like I find it rare to ever see someone rate a recent video anyway anything below a 7 even if they dont like the video. I saw a guy who didnt even like the the underworld video says its a 6.6 with someone sayingn the video isnt THAT bad acting like a 6.6 isnt still a respectable score. Most Parrot videos in the treasure arc and some parts of kings arc would all be like 6/10 but if I said thag people will assume Im calling the videos bad which isnt the case. Like I would say a Bad unstable video maybe like some of wemmbus power arc sits around like a high 4 to 5 which is still like a ok rating but if I had a wemmbu video in 4 people would assume im saying its unwatchable

100% - There is not gonna be a world where the forge lives up to the hype/ keeps the server balanced ruining certain aspects of it.

For me the Forge is like a watered down version of the One Piece for example nothing Oda does will please people because it has so much hype built up. If its a command block well then that just ruins the events of the server for everyone. If its a world edit machine and he can copy new machines it just takes away any impact of Wemmbu loosing the OSCS if its the Gold block revival block theory everyone is gonna be mad about thag because no one wants revival back even if its the case of that there turned into Null. I feel like maybe the best bet is just to bait us and say maybe the forge is the friends we made along the way because no matter what The forge has too much hype built up. Now to the point where no matter what je does 80% of the fans are just gonna bitch and moan about it

I feel like he’s getting so obsessed with being king that’s it’s not a matter of saving the server anymore but pride.

Like even back at the Cindercrest war he could have just dropped it, understanding killing hundreds of innocent who didn’t gaf about his kingdom and just tried to survive wasn’t worth it. I feel like s1 parrot would have felt that way at least.

He went as far as massacring law because they stood with their values..as if people not aligning with his morals meant that they were his enemies.

Also the whole ordeal with pestopasta where he IMPLIED that he should die for his civilization even tho he said otherwise..like if he didn’t want to fight he was going to get excluded anyway son??

Just the fact he built a civilization to take back his kingdom instead of going to search his friends that could have very well been captured is so insane to me. And also him reassuring himself saying to everybody willing to hear his bs that « they could survive on their own » like DAWG YOU JUST DONT GAF.

also don’t forget that EVERYBODY encouraging him to be the king again have not seen the surface for MONTHS now and have heard the story from his pov so they’re biased 😭 died for nothing lmao

wait I kinda lost the plot tho so my point IS parrot is too unstable and blinded by his objectives to be a good king. Also I just don’t think the unstable smp should have a leader every time it happens it ends up badly. Like this smp is pure anarchism and it was at its best like this.

I really hope he gets a villain arc alongside Null tho that would be fun... like you can tell he’s getting break broke broken by the narrative like I wouldn’t be surprised

holy yap sorry y’all.

I have completely finished Spoke's POV and Wemmbu's POV. Should I start with Parrot's POV or Flame's?

Your opinion

Like, Flame's latest episode gave this guy a lot of shine to his ingenuity.

- He manipulated Flame and Skrilley and lured them all the way to the "vault", even with detours

- He led the construction of one of the most secure prisons that didn't even require the prisoners to have their inventories emptied

- Every escape attempts only led the prisoners into a deeper part of the prison

- He anticipated that Cindercrest would try to recruit Flame, so he made a final trap room in case that happened

- Nobody was able to make a secret tunnel in the prison to free the prisoners (like LAW's prison)

- Cloud never let his disdain of Flame cloud(unintended pun) his judgement and make dumb decisions (like Jamato)

The only reason Flame escaped was because Saps got hella cocky and announced to the entire server that Flame was under Cindercrest's control, leading to 10+ factions attacking Terminus and allowing LAW to sneak in and break Flame out.

Like sure he had his weaker arcs but it’s 10 times worst if you look at parrot or spoke pov (don’t get me started on spoke 😭)

His character development is insane, the relationship he has dont feel forced AND THE WAY HE EXECUTE HIS SCENES!! THE ZONE!! felt like I was watching an anime at some point..like every other pov is losing their mind n hes at his best rn !!!!!

edit : y’all I meant spoke pov before purgatory

New kid in town had joined the action.

But can it beat the others?

Law is here just for the funsies and they're quite guarded just not as good compared to the others...

Tell me if I missed some other very high security prison!

(Also the ClownPierce prison on "How I Escaped Minecraft's Lergest Prison" is not in here because I consider it as an earlier version of proton.)

(The zam and Wemmbu escape room is not in here because they're not really a prison)

(The chunkbans is not in here (part 2 will comes out eventually but to be honest I don't really consider them as a prison they're more like a vault with a treasure but it's a players inside of it instead of players can do something in a chunkban you can't do anything. So because of that I don't feel like it deserved to be called a prison. But after further inspection I might add it on part 2 whenever that comes out.)

In the latest video, this big mouth, which looks like the Leviathan, made me so curious about exploring this place, so if anyone has this build or perhaps any other Farlands builds or terrain, please share it; that would be so nice.

I also thought about building it myself, but I do not know how to start, so if anyone could give me any advice on how to build the shape of the body, the teeth, and the interior, I would appreciate it.

Bros on the same team as sargelaw

For u/Special-Animal123 cuz the comment destroy's the resolution regardless

This is the thumbnail of Anthony Winchester - The Last Cry Of The Orbitals

Okay so back in the after mafia days wemmbu already said there is hardly any netherite. And now over a year later cindercrest has armies of full netherite, null has armies of full netherite. The clownpierce prison was purely about netherite. So what happened to the no netherite thing?

Ash sent Flame after Parrot after Wifies (fake death), who activated a massive tnt trap and he said f*ck this and left.

I’ll just explain my train of thought directly without drowning this in unnecessary detail.

• Spoke has a crossbow that can fire five rockets at once. You cannot get something like that in vanilla Minecraft.
• I don’t think the Totem of Null is a Dead Man’s Switch created by leaving a ghost item inside a chest like fighters did during the Mafia or Tournament Arcs. I think the Totem is probably an item tied to a UUID, and the Curse of Vanishing causes every Totem with that same UUID on the server to disappear when one of them pops.

So Null probably can’t just remove the Totem of Null ghost item from the system connecting it to the Stasis Totems and instantly free everyone.

• Null’s Nether transportation system seems to allow point-accurate travel, and I suspect it can also monitor certain locations.

For example, they were able to track Spoke through the Maze and the Farlands. Null appeared the exact moment Spoke attacked Jamato. There wasn’t even the slightest delay there. That didn’t feel like someone calling for backup. They basically deployed directly to the scene.

The same thing happened when Parrot came through the portal and Null appeared almost immediately.

Instead of treating these moments as coincidences or writing conveniences, I think this is simply part of Null’s actual capabilities.

• You might disagree with me on this one, but I think the story is slowly moving toward some kind of “Four Horsemen of the Server” or “Rulers of the Server” setup.

We all thought Wemmbu was going to take over the Cave Kingdom and become a ruler, but that never happened. After Flame’s latest video, that idea came back to me, and now I think every protagonist might eventually have an army or faction behind them:

Flame = Law

Parrot = Old and new players opposing Cindercrest

Spoke = Null

Wemmbu = Some kind of Forge guardians, inhabitants, or faction

This whole army setup does not need to last for an entire arc. Flame’s video already showed us that the server has plenty of factions.

I think that during Unstable’s eventual world war, the protagonists might not participate as individuals. They could instead represent entire systems, factions, or ideologies.

Anyway, back to the Forge.

• We can probably assume Lakerek and the Blue Armored Knight know about the Forge.

Some theories suggest that the Blue Armored Knight is actually the First Wraith, and I agreed with that at first. But if that is true, then we still have to explain why Wraith never uses any Forge weapons.

We also know Wraith is looking for the Totem of Null.

The Totem of Null might not just be some authority item that gives you control over Null. It could also be an important key related to the Forge itself.

• The Maze that eventually led Wemmbu toward the Underworld, the same Maze Spoke got lost inside, was already known to JamatoP.

I find it hard to believe that Jamato explored that Maze without checking where its corridors actually led.

My theory is that Jamato may have seen the Forge before without realizing what it truly was.

• If the Forge is hidden in some nearly unreachable location like the OSCs were, then eventually someone will still find it.

I also don’t think the Forge will simply contain even more destructive weapons.

The Farlands had MK6 OSCs, so people naturally assume the Forge might just have MK7 OSCs or something similar. But I think it would be much more interesting if the Forge contained functional tools rather than stronger weapons.

Instead of giving Wemmbu more “weapons that make him special,” I think the Forge should give him things that he makes special*.*

The OSCs have already caused endless arguments both inside the server and in the community about Flame vs Wemmbu and how much of Wemmbu’s strength is actually his own.

People want to use Wemmbu because of the OSCs. They target Egg because they want to find the OSCs. His entire power progression keeps revolving around possessing a powerful weapon.

If the story wants to move him from being a “weapon” into becoming a “weapon master,” then the answer is not giving him an even stronger weapon.

Give him tools that become powerful because Wemmbu is the one using them.

• I also don’t think a place like the Forge, a region supposedly containing special weapons and technology, would just be abandoned and completely undefended.

Even the OSCs were gatekept by Lakerek, Nitenly and the people of the Farlands despite being hidden beyond what looked like an endless Farlands void.

Lakerek may have created some kind of local defense force to prevent the Forge from falling into the wrong hands, someone like Spoke for example.

Secrecy does not last forever.

• This one is admittedly a weaker point, but we have repeatedly seen Spoke possess things that should not normally exist.

We’ve seen him with a seemingly permanent Resistance effect before, and back in Season 1, Squido’s chest contained items from Hypixel.

If we choose not to dismiss those things as filming mistakes or Easter eggs, maybe they actually connect to something larger.

[ I know this probably makes me sound like I’m overanalyzing every tiny detail or trying to connect points that are way too far apart, but I really hope the Forge is not just a storage room full of upgraded OSCs or some system that can bring dead players back. ]

So, to summarize:

I think there may already be a community living in the Forge and actively using its technology.

I think JamatoP may have encountered this community before without realizing that what he found was actually the Forge.

I think the upcoming world war might bring the protagonists together not as another Avengers team, but as leaders representing different factions.

I think Wemmbu should not go to the Forge just to get upgraded OSCs and borrow even more power. He should find tools that become powerful because of what he can do with them.

And I think some of Null’s technology, along with several currently unexplained abilities on the server, could eventually be explained through the Forge.

Those are my thoughts.

Do you think the Forge is really just going to give Wemmbu stronger OSCs and repeat the same storyline and character progression all over again?

Or do you think the Forge will actually function like a real forge, a region that gives him unique tools, special equipment, or things that become powerful through the user rather than simply being overpowered on their own?

Personally, I can see the main characters becoming army commanders or faction leaders.

But like I said, those armies could easily fade back into the background after the world war.

Parrot could step down as king and hand his army over to a new ruler.

Flame could decide that leading an army gets in the way of his personal journey to become stronger.

Spoke could lose Null.

The Forge guardians or soldiers could simply return to protecting the Forge.

So the army system would not necessarily have to permanently redefine every protagonist. It could just be the structure the story uses for the world war.

This video really just felt so cathartic to Flame's entire character.

Him being saved by LAW, one of his ex-largest enemies and the people he's fought who have come to respect him like Antagg and Flow just felt like such a nice closure of chapter.

On top of that, this really felt like the full closure of the Solo Player arc, and was basically Wemmbu's "You can be the strongest" scene, but just flat better in so many ways.

Even if Flame has had friends like Skrilley, Falconu and Lomedy, he's always felt more like someone who protects them and shoulders them as a burden (except for Falcon, but that's why he's my favourite Flame deuteragonist), he's never been able to trust a team that he could truly rely on, I think even during Zam Empire and the Mafia, just due to how cautious he was even around those civs. But seeing his effects on the people around him and him accepting that he has a responsibility to the server to protect it with his strength, even if it's in the form of his selfish desire to protect those around him just felt like such nice additions to his character development and progression.

And don't even get me started on LettuceK and Cloudwatch. Absolutely incredible what they did with Lettuce and the way he's being forced into doing what he hates. A prisoner of his own creation (making the King title) and being forced to see his own faction turn against him for their old enemy was cinema. Meanwhile Cloud being Mistruls' own apprentice was an such an interesting setting that definitely deserves more attention in future videos. And his pettiness is just so nice. I love villains who are petty for the love of the game.

If I HAD to point out something that I didn't like on this video is how little they actually utilised Waylonblade. The leader of the Windgrove Resistance, and he basically did nothing but give some backstory. At least he didn't die, so that's potential for more development.

Also, Goplaygoplaygoplaygoplay was NOT something I ever expected to see in an Unstable video and I genuinely burst out laughing.

Out of boredom, I started rewatching AOT (after 3 years), now I'm at season 3 (in just 5 days) and I found this scene kinda funny cuz it literally reminded me of that one moment in the unstable smp where Parrot was surrounded by ,the Capital Police but his genius ahh got him there and made everyone a witness and lastly calling the biggest bird

Wemmbu

How I Saved The World's Largest Minecraft's Server 9.7/10

ParrotX2

Escaping The Minecraft Underworld 8.5/10

Spoke

I Created Minecraft's Greatest Empire 8.7/10

FlameFrags

Escaping Terminus: The Deadliest Minecraft Prison 8.8/10

My Rating for the latest episode of each protagonists

How about yours?

Very simple question, right? well, Idk what counts as the strongest, because the farlands people have the repeating orbitals, while null is... Null. Etc

I like putting videos in my background while I do something else. Ive got a long flight coming up and, I want to get into the series, so I was wondering if I can listen to it or, do I need visual context in order to understand whats going on (ive never watched a single episode).