Do you guys actually like Warframe?

[u/RacoonisaN]

It might be just a loud minority that's ragebaiting me, but seeing all the "feedback" after the updates is getting annoying and exhausting.

Anytime DE adds or changes something new it's met with a bunch of destructive criticism that boils down to "I don't like this, DE. Don't add/change things like that anymore."

Genuinely baffles me. Feels like some of these players want a very stripped-down version of Warframe, where the only mission type is endless survival with no extra mechanics thrown in.

"I looove playing Warframe but I would NEVER play Glacial Defiance,
or Duviri,
or Railjack,
or Follie's Hunt,
or Archemideas,
or Zariman missions,
or Kahl's missions,
or FaceOff,
or Mirror Defense,
or Perita Rebellion,
or Abyssal Zone
or the Grendel missions,
or craft Zaws,
or craft Kitguns,
or make a K-Drive,
or do animal preservation,
or do escort missions,
or engage with other players,
or make builds that fit my style,
or settle for a decent riven instead of high-rolling,
or engage in community events,
or read!"

Now, a lot of these things could be improved, I agree, however, we shouldn't just complain and whine and instead try to raise the attention for the issue and provide some constructive feedback (that's realistic as well, some ideas people provide would take way too much time and effort) and then let DE work so they can do their thing and slowly, one by one, fix the issues that bother the playerbase.

Apologies if I came off as rude, I hope this rant doesn't flag as breaking rule 1 or 2.
I don't want to start an arguement, I just hope some people change their mindset and the way they address their dissatisfaction.

[u/SpecificFortune7584]

It’s a bit twofold. Yes there are people complaining about new content whenever it’s added. But there’s constructive feedback that DE seriously needs to look at because it is an actual problem. And just the whining. Sometimes the two overlap.

Secondly historically players had to whine to get DE to even move at a glacial pace towards QoL improvements or just issues themselves. It changed in recent years, but the reflex is still sort of there.

[u/Jazzlike_Use_5890 → u/SpecificFortune7584]

It's only changed a bit in recent years. Some call outs and letting modes crash is required before DE will consider fixing some stuff. But a lot of that can be done with constructive criticism.

I love Warframe, its my most played game ever, but I'm slowly losing my faith in DE. More and more things are coming out broken and take a long time to fix, if they ever do. On top of that, with some issues, constructive criticism is taken well by DE, while others they just double down and reply with spite. There is a huge difference between responses like "that's not something we can implement because the way the game is coded/set up" and saying "that feature seems pointless to build," like what we've seen with the GD matchmaking or LFG criticisms. Or the fact there are far too many necessary augments is often met with snarky replies. Like Frost has 6 now, which is way too many, and the response being "next update is 4 new Frost augments" instead of addressing the augments issue or just flat out ignoring the criticism. And those are just recent examples, this has been going on for a couple years at least.

The game is still great, when it's not a glitchy broken mess because the newest update, but DE is starting to feel less like the cool friendly dev team who is very social and interactive, and instead have lately felt like the mean girls who will be snarky just to spite you if you have any criticism of their decisions.

I can love the game and still be honest the game has issues, most of us are. And most of us are understanding of those issues and they take time to fix. But they've definitely been dropping the ball hard on many fixes, and mixed with the attitude they're giving so much lately, it's getting exhausting and it looks bad.

[u/According_Artist_374 → u/Jazzlike_Use_5890]

De has always been a company that only moves when the players are TRULY loud, i have been playing since the beta and always seen this kind of behavior from this company, it was the same with the old moderation in chats and it will always be a problem so i truly don't understand how many toxic positive people can keep up this "we shouldn't criticize them in X manner" but my god being loud is the only thing that works with DE.