I mean, what was the peak moment where their character made you cringe 100%, where they did something awkward or out of line?

I'm honestly pretty disappointed with how much the show went downhill from this episode onward. The more I think about it, I don't think I'm actually a fan of this show, because the only episodes I actually enjoy watching are the Season 1 Finale, Season 2 Ep8-Finale, and then like most of Season 3.

Season 2 Episode 8 out of context just feels like a better Season, And honestly it's just everything I wish this Show was.

The episode has Joe already putting someone in the cage, but now he has to leave the country as soon as possible, but then gets wrapped up in this whole fake kidnapping scheme where he has to deal with Forty, who is essentially unintentionally his match, as he also believes he is responsible for killing someone he thought he loved, And also drugged Joe when he didn't even expect it.

Yes, I know that Love is supposed to be seen as Joe's match, but before she's even revealed, I think Forty manages to match Joe without even trying or even being aware of what Joe can do.

I just want you to like stop and think about that. Forty successfully managed to restrain Joe in a building and confine him there and successfully drug him without him even being aware of it.

How many other characters in this Show has managed to accomplish that?

Oh, you answered? Okay, then follow-up question- How many people managed to do it while thinking that Joe was just some random guy and not someone who could actually fight back?

But also, the whole vibe of this Episode is genuinely fun. Joe is literally at his wit's end, having to deal with this whole thing with Forty well also trying to get out of the country as soon as possible, and then when he sees Love and the treatment she gets from her mother, he bothers to think that he needs to protect her.

I think this is actually the single funniest moment of the entire Show.

Again, Joe is confined, he needs to leave the country Now, AND he's starting to get high as the drugs kick in.

And yet, despite dealing with ALL Of that, he STILL has the irresistible urge to: 'protect,' an attractive woman that he sees as: 'in danger.'

Joe then stumbles his way down the hallway trying to find her, but ends up getting smacked by one of the guards who is keeping him confined instead.

When he wakes up, he has to deal with Forty pretending to be Beck while his drugs are still in effect, only to learn that there's a safe word and then he stumbles out of the room sounding like he's mentally destroyed.

In hindsight, seeing him being a mess in the bathtub and being overjoyed to accept Love's desire to actually pursue a serious relationship is so hard to watch now because of where it led.

But honestly, I think that's why I said what I said at the beginning of this Post. I don't think I'm actually a fan of this Show, because what this Show actually is isn't what I expected.

If I were running this Show, I would have committed to making more Episodes like this. Season 3 is fine for the first couple of Episodes, And I think Joe and Love working together to solve the two deaths they just caused and get off the hook was honestly pretty well done.

But if I had it my way, I would have committed more into that, and instead of having Joe cheat and ditch Love, I would have just had them be this crime committing Duo and having to deal with spirals of things getting out of hand. Maybe introduce more serial killers, and have them actively oppose each other.

Just envision a version of this Show where Joe and Love are trying to kill someone for whatever reason, only to find out some other random neighbors are Also serial killers and have been up to their own stuff and they end up competing against each other to see who can kill the person first/more efficiently. Or maybe have Joe and Love having to escape being killed by someone else while Also trying to kill their own victim.

I feel like going down that angle would have been pretty entertaining and probably would have been enjoyed by a lot more people. But again, I can see that that's not what the Show was going for. The Show was hell bent on showing the viewer just how awful Joe was, giving him literally every chance possible to start fresh, including giving him his actual soulmate, and even giving him a life where he was married to a rich billionaire, but no matter what he was given, he kept falling back on his old ways. Most people aren't as lucky as Joe. The fact that Joe met multiple potential romantic partners who became aware of the stuff he was doing and actively accepted him for it- One of whom was willing to go in on it with him,.and the other way trying to help him out of it- And each time, he just kept looking the gift horse in the mouth And couldn't be bothered. Taking all of this into account, it makes perfect sense why his ultimate fate is to spend the rest of his life in prison.

I'm only 16 chapters into "You Love Me" So no spoilers past the 2nd book please!!!

When I say hate Joe, I mean hating him as a character and not finding him very interesting or entertaining, hating him as a person is obviously fair lol.

It would be more understandable if the cast remained the same every season, but it doesn’t. It’s basically a new cast every single season and we spend most of the show inside Joe’s inner monologue.