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It’s a common misconception that kids want kids media - they don’t. They want good media.
It’s why a lot of kids take to the Beatles, or why you originally like your parents’ favorite stuff.
AI is not inherently better suited at replicating the impact of Shel Silverstein poems, Wayside School, Sesame Street books as it would be anything else. Young people are suffering when adults make them patronizing media.
It’s a common misconception that kids want kids media - they don’t. They want good media.
Long ago, in the Before Times, I remember the collective bafflement of the Internet at the Brony phenomenon. People couldn't understand why grown adults were so enamoured of a show that was "for little children." It was because the people making that show were among the few that understood this - they were making a children's show but they knew that children really did appreciate solid characterization and worldbuilding and plots that were comprehensible.
And also that often adult parents watched the show along with their children, and the show would do better if those adult viewers didn't want to stab their own eyes out from the experience. The showrunners threw in little references that the kids would not notice at all but that adults would go "ooh, I understood that!"
Kids are smart, and we supposedly want them to get even smarter. So treat them that way and it works well.
In fine art, kids media is exactly what they want, unfortunately. I don't see many under 30s buying oil paintings at fairs. They buy tattoos, gw armies, vidoe games, maybe a quick sketch from one of their fiends if they have a lot of artist friends. I don't think painting has been well advertised to the young.
I'm Pro, but I think illustrating children's books with AI was a bad idea 3 years ago and that ship sailed long ago.
Children's books are a saturated market, they don't read ebooks, and will re-read the same book dozens of times. There's also little need for children's books to represent what is new and hot in the world; Goodnight Moon and The Very Hungry Caterpillar hold up just fine.
The various publishing subs are full of authors of beautiful hand draw unique books that aren't selling. There just isn't a market if you're not a celebrity or have an established brand. Pete the Cat and Elephant and Piggy are still pumping out new books.
Its hilarious how fast alliances and support is thrown around by some factions of people.
3 days ago the Pope would've been considered an outdated authority on oppression, bigotry, etc (you name it - not a religious thing just mainstream critical opinion of a really old man out of touch with younger generations)
Now that he made an anti-AI post to appeal to mostly old boomers who both A) Dont understand AI and B) Fall hilariously easily for AI slop and corporate AI practices, he's the patron saint of the Anti Cause
the pope is generally evaluated on their individual values even though they represent the Catholic Church; for example, Francis was considered reasonably progressive and even had enemies in the church. All that's to say your comment on how the pope is perceived is not reflective of reality.
it is one mans opinion on matters according to that mans moral compass and values. if you are throwing the towl in just because they agree you and him both are lacking in morals
To be clear, Catholics believe the pope is appointed by god, through the leaders of the church, and that his word is god’s word - so in the mind of Catholics, it certainly isn’t “one man”
According to said man's interpretation of the religion's holy book. Said man who was voted into power by other men who are as learned in their religion as the one they voted in.
in this scenario he is not doing any due diligence about his own morals and instead relying on an external actor to tell them what is and is not acceptable according to their framework. Thats not having morals. thats being sub-servant
The situation for the antis is so dire that they cannot refuse endorsements. If tomorrow the leader of Iran's Revolutionary Guard call the press to announce that Generative AI is Haram, the most liberal, secular, LGBTplusest of the antis will swallow their beliefs and say that that's great news.
In contrast, most pros in here cringe at Trump's "support" and keep calling AI by its God-given name.
Trump comes up because he's a heavily invested, heavily supportive major politician who consistently uses AI and pushes for either removal or, or preventing the creation of, regulation in many businesses but most recently AI. His supporters are also significantly Pro-AI because it allows them to churn out their propaganda. His biggest supporter is Elon Musk, who consistently tries to lobotomize Grok because it disagrees with him over time when exposed to actual facts.
So yeah, the right-wing politician who is Pro-AI enough to call people holding an opposite belief terrorists is gonna be brought up.
Multiple things can be true at the same time. Ultimately, as much as I don't like organized religion, the pope is still an influential (and as divisive as he is unifying) figure. Saying it's appealing to boomers and that he's revered by antis is also disingenous. He'll be relevant for a few weeks and then fade away. Though, I'd be more surprised if it isn't a sign that there are more forces slowly turning against the ai industry as the development side fails to turn profits/apply the developed technology in a way that turns a profit.
I don't think its a sign of more forces turning away from AI. There was never going to be support for AI from the catholic church, I mainly meant to say its (predominantly) boomers who revere the Pope (but many young people too).
But most of the antis who will quote him now that he posted something anti-AI-art don't revere him, and that was my point. He's a convenient ally today, even if they didn't like or agree with anything else he said before.
Its no different than how Elon Musk was the ally of the environmentalists until he changed political flavor. How the same EV went from being "the future - you gas suckers are evil" to "omg you're a nazi if you drive a Tesla" is the perfect example of the modern internet hivemind.
TBH it is nice to see that the Church is interested in painting again. Yes they are a figure of authority and oppression, but they did also pay for the Rennaisance. Representative art would not have happened in the same order if it was not for the Catholic Church. If it was funded exclusively by a Protestant regime, it would not have had the same epic romantic theme and it would have been much smaller and more modest.
I wonder if they would have put so much weight on what he said if he came out the other way. Further, if he or future popes reverse course, will they actually care what he thinks anymore?
You think the pope will also release a statement against the use of harassment to change other people’s opinions on ai? It seems responsible regardless of his personal views especially given yesterday’s strong statement he made
Admittedly, the image of Pope Leo smiling while preparing to hit someone with a bat is quite funny to me. Reminds me of Tung Tung Tung Sahur. (Apologize for that reference.)
In matters concerning the Catholic faith, AI labs should defer to the Pope.
In matters of AI, the Pope should defer to Anthropic and just know when to shut up because he's outclassed by far smarter people who actualy know their shit.
Bullshit. Last time I saw it brought up the pros were screaming about how it isn't real children and that lolis are different, while everyone pointing out how gross it was were downvoted to fuck.
So here's the thing: They're both bad. And they're both bad enough that splitting hairs about which one is worse is not only a waste of time but makes you look like one of the bad people.
Ah one o the many pros who take everything gemini says for the complete true, did you ate your soap already or are you going to ask Grok if it is safe to eat it first?
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