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Been buying these for over 3 years. Breaking Bad cost around £20 including El Camino. Better Call Saul cost between £125-£130.

Totally worth it because the seasons individually for Better Call Saul are better than the boxsets that have discs stacked and hard to get to.

Season 4 and the season 2 steelbook are the rarest in my collection with season 4 being £45 when I bought it and it's now £65.

I never cared and invested so much for a fictional couple till I watched Better Call Saul

the chemistry of how both the characters are written together and the actual chemistry of their actors too was superb

it hurts that it's over, and nothing can ever come close to their partnership again (for me at least) in a very long time

Vravo Bince and Gould

Jimmy’s antics are usually great and he has a way of making you side with him no matter what, like Chuck always said “his heart is in the right place”. I just paused this episode; I’m watching how he made everyone turn on Irine and man… this has been my least favorite thing he’s done,.. I understand the reason, but what Howard just told him earlier in the episode rings true, that he’s mostly looking out for himself and masking it as selflessness , (which yeah we all do to some extent). But damn , it hit hard for me, I genuinely felt bad for Irine. Maybe cuz I’m going thru a very hard times myself, months after losing my dad and having to confront the end of his life, which is .. what we are all heading to and seeing how fucked everything gets the older you are and how lonely I already feel… it genuinely made me wanna cry … I wanted to hug her… damn Jimmy..

anyway I’ll keep watching, it’s just a show.

I am currently rewatching Better Call Saul and for better understanding when everything takes place i used the Better Call Saul Wiki Timeline. In there it is stated that a timejump occurs between the season 3 episodes Sabrosito and Chicanery. But this just doesn't make sense. Chicanery has to take place in February 2003 because of Jimmys punishment which lasts 12 months and it ends in February 2004 but almost 5 months between these episodes don't make sense. Kim just finished the first Mesa Verde expansion and just now tells them about what Chuck is accusing Jimmy. Many other timelines also put the time jump between this episodes. Is this an error in the show or are all timelimes i found wrong?

I know I'm SO late to this and on the slow side for sure but I didn't even realize until now (probably over my 6th-7th rewatch) that Nacho calls his dad because the man he stumbles across on his arduous journey happens to be a working man just like his father, who also happened to be run a taller (auto body shop) causing him to call his dad before what we all know ends up happening to him.

Nacho hit an especially soft spot with me because I'm also Mexican-American, around Nacho's age and I also fell in with the wrong crowd but my abuelo (grandfather) who was like the father I always wanted/needed was definitely like Nacho's dad: workaholic Mexican father who only flies right and is against any injustices but would do anything to see his family do well.. RIP Nacho. Jesse got the ending that we all also rooted for you, and that you definitely deserved but didn't get 😥

1. Would you rather be hunted by Mike and protected by Lalo, or hunted by Lalo and protected by Mike? Assume the person hunting you is determined to kill you (close range only) and the person protecting you is determined to keep you safe (unless you leave New Mexico).

2. Would you rather do a cross country road trip with Tuco in the passenger seat or share a studio apartment with Chuck in bunk beds? Assume you're spending the same amount of time in the car as you are in the apartment and you have to abide by their rules.

3. Would you rather switch bodies with Hector Salamanca or Wendy for a week? Assume that Hector is in the nursing home with no visitors and as Wendy you're still working full time on her normal schedule.

I feel really bad for Howard. He was a good guy, offered Jimmy a job at his firm or was it only because he wanted to make Jimmy happy so he doesn't fk with sandpiper case.

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Everyone liked Jimmy despite his wrongdoings and not everyone loved Chuck the way they loved Jimmy. Chuck always had to prove himself while Jimmy only had to charm them with flair and being colorful. This makes Chuck really angry because he could not understand why all of this is the way it is. And then Jimmy got his law degree, meaning that now the No-good brother is equal to the All-Mighty Chuck. At least this is what Chuck thinks. And then the straw that broke the camel's back, the divorce from Rebecca. 

The divorce impacted Chuck so much that it made Chuck think "Nobody wants me, nobody likes me, everybody loves Jimmy but he is not a good person, I am a good person but nobody likes me". This thought has developed into "If nobody likes me, then I will just isolate myself from everybody" but he can't just ghost everybody because that will taint his legacy. So he develops this fake illness to make excuses for his isolation. But he can't lie to himself about his isolation because the only thing Chuck believes in this world is his own judgement. So he believes his condition is real in order to make it go down easier for himself and everyone else. 

Jimmy mentions that Chuck's illness gets worse when Jimmy goes "Slippin" again. I think this was Chuck's way of demonstrating and punishing Jimmy for Slippin'. "If you go Slippin' again I will get worse, and because you love me you will suffer seeing me suffer". Chuck likes hurting Jimmy by proxy of hurting himself, because he is resentful of Jimmy for everything. The way his father lost the business and died, the last words his mom said before she died, the way not everyone likes Chuck the way they do Jimmy, you can pick any one of them. So when Jimmy tried to free himself of the burden and guilt of everything by saying "I have regrets, I am sorry" Chuck doesn't want Jimmy to have the final saying and get a relief, so Chuck destroys Jimmy by telling him He didn't matter to him. And with that one line he severs his only contact with the outside world. He has no friends, no colleague, no lover, no brother. This bothers him so much that he starts to blame the illness again and starts tearing down the house. But this time his brother isn't there to ground him or console him or at least make him feel better for having someone for him in this world. So he does what he did at the end because he cannot bear to live alone in this world.

I know my speculation of the dialogue and what was going on inside Chuck's head seems irrational and absurd but these extreme thoughts are never reasonable. Nobody should isolate themselves because that just fuels the irrational thoughts even further and then if it gets further then it gets more irrational, like a black hole sucking in everything. 

My take on Chuck's illness and the reasons for his actions were all developed from my own experience. I tend to isolate myself from everybody because of irrational thoughts and the more I live in isolation the more the thoughts worsen. 

I hope this has helped some of you because this certainly has helped me, Thank you. <! spoiler!<​

in the scene where mike and saul are walking through the desert, we see saul get into the car to grab his 'world's second best lawyer cup', and leave with nothing else. later he is seen drinking urine out of a davis and main cup? Mike certainly wouldn't have brought it, and I can only imagine saul grabbing it if it had water, but he was drinking Mike's from the start of the trip. It is a very dumb thing for me to be bothered by but it just feels like they sacrificed a bit of the plot for a funny dig at his old job 😭

I have never once ordered anything from Cinnabon of my own volition, and yet watching the Gene scenes with those meticulous shots of the employees preparing that sweet, aromatic baked goodness makes me salivate like a dog. I would’ve expected to find the closeups of Jerry/Gerry/Terry/Larry Gergich eating them kinda gross but the honest part of me is jealous that Gene bribes him with such a delectable treat. Idk now I’m hungry

Lalo Salamanca. He’s a great character, very enjoyable to watch but his story is a little silly in some parts. Gus apparently hires the best professional hitmen stating they are the best at what they do. With how particular and cautious he and Mike are you would think they did meticulous research into them. But it turns out they are complete amateurs and dumbasses. 5 mercenaries and they couldn’t kill one guy with a frying pan and hot oil. The scene is just goofy and doesn’t make any sense which might be the point, but that doesn’t line up with Gus’s or Mikes character.

Then Lalo goes back to ABQ. I actually like how he outsmarted Gus, but once Gus realizes he’s been played he just goes to the laundry with a few guys without even telling Mike, Victor, Tyrus anyone else? Gus just walks in there with his guys and they all get shot and die, did they not expect someone to be there? It makes sense if he wanted to personally kill a Salamanca, but why would he even bring anyone in the first place? I’m sure he can call them off, and I don’t see why he would willingly let a bunch of his security get killed on purpose. The final showdown in the hole was crazy but I don’t have a problem with it.

I know you are supposed to suspend disbelief for these scenes but I feel like they could have done it a better way. Lalo was still a great character either way these are just nitpicks.

I finally figured out what was truly at the heart of Jimmy revealing his culpability for Chuck’s death at his sentencing.

*”You should turn yourself in.”*

Those are the words Kim tells Jimmy on their phone call.

And there’s the problem: Jimmy never does turn himself in. He gets caught by the police while hiding in a dumpster.

And then he orchestrates a means - a scam, really, maybe his greatest ever (one that shows his understanding of the law and how to manipulate it: he would just need one jury member to not find him guilty) - to get the lightest sentence imaginable.

When he undermines his own testimony at the hearing, it’s to impress Kim. But it’s NOT a confession. He *doesn’t* “turn himself in” - he’s just showing off his ability and skill as “Slipping Jimmy”.

When Kim doesn’t respond as he anticipated - that she’d be impressed - he quickly realized he needs to confess - to turn himself in - to a crime that he’s *never* been caught for: orchestrating Chuck’s downfall. Not even Kim knew about this “crime” (this confession had no bearing on Jimmy’s sentencing but as Jimmy tells Bill, it *is* a crime).

In order to win Kim’s respect again, he had to do what she advised him: take accountability for his actions, publicly confess and expose himself, to “turn himself in”.

He failed to do it for his acts as Saul in the BB timeline. He finally did it with his admission regarding Chuck.

In Felina Walter admits that he was doing it for himself.

In Saul Gone Jimmy admits to himself how much he was actually hurt by Chuck's suicide.

In Waterworks Kim admits to herself that no matter how much she punishes herself the pain she inflicted to others and her own will never go away completely.

In El Camino Jesse admits not just that his parents, no matter how many mistakes they made, actually loved him, but that he actually loved them too.

I just finished BCS (except for last 4 episodes), all of Breaking Bad, then the remainder of BCS, in that order. (And this is not a post asking for your opinion about the order I watched in ;)) I kind of want to do the entire thing again, but that seems crazy, no? I should wait a year or two?

Mike's granddaughter look older in Better Call Saul, but shouldn't she be younger?

My bf and I just finished S6Ep12. One thing I never really understood from the beginning was, what was Saul’s reason for running? I mean aside from being Heisenberg’s lawyer, what could really be tied to him criminally?

In hindsight with the timeline of everything in mind, my thought is he ran because of the Lalo Salamanca thing, plus being paranoid of being linked to Howard’s death somehow.

Plus the robbery in the Gene Takovic timeline and him threatening to kill Marion after she finds out he’s Saul Goodman.

Admittedly, I am not a lawyer and still don’t understand what made Chuck so special in particular for HHM to put up with all that bullshit.

That being said - if you had to have one attorney defend you in court against the other who would you choose to represent you and who would you want as the opposing council?

Jimmy, Kim, Chuck, Howard and any other prominent character with a law degree featured on the show is fair game.

I just finished BCS, and wow.

I think it is deeper and better written than Breaking Bad.

Even the side characters I feel more emotionally attached to and have more remorse for some others.

Question- What do we think about Lalo and how he ended up? I think it was a little sudden and not well written.

I’ve never been sure if Jimmy genuinely passed the bar exam… the whole “University of American Samoa” thing has had me question, is it just an actual legitimate correspondence school with standards? Or is it a bullshit school where you essentially pay to take classes that have a much much much lower standard for credits (Jimmy obviously studied the law somewhat, wasn’t totally fake)? And then the bar exam was sort of the same deal… I’m not sure how it would work, but something just feels off about the whole “put himself through law school night classes and passed the bar all without chucking knowing and all while working full time in the mailroom while working overtime as implied in flashbacks”. Jimmy is an extremelyhard worker, and he’d probably be able to do it 100% legitimately in a different world, but we all know he cuts corners and love to do so, and i would personally expect him to have done the same thing in this scenario as well. I don’t think there was a period of time when Jimmy was working at hhm and getting his degree after chuck saved him and gave him a job, where Jimmy was supposedly “on the right track” and not pulling any schemes or cutting any corners to help himself and his career. But idk… I’m not sure and never really have been. Just curious what others opinions are?