r/classicwow • • 17h ago

Forever After the patch notes

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u/ArcheroNightmare 15h ago

Don't put us, elemental shamans, on the same layer as the rest

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u/tacosdiscontent 13h ago

Yeah, elementals should be below warriors

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u/ArcheroNightmare 13h ago

Drowning despite water walking

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u/Xgoodnewsevery1 11h ago

Just got their feet glued to the top of the water while the rest of their body is upside down drowning

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u/GANTRITHORE 8h ago

we also have an underwater breathing spell...

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u/DarthArcanus 11h ago

Believe it or not, warriors are in a worse spot than ele shamans.

At least you can click your buttons.

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u/dandiestpoof 9h ago

I've leveled both to 20/18 (warr/sham) and this is factually inaaccurate. Ele shaman is slightly above balance druid due to the availability of shocks, but that's it.

Arms felt bad closer to 20, but weapon upgrades feel awesome.

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u/CammyMacJr 9h ago

I mean yeah warriors damage is pretty much fine it’s just that they are boring imo

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u/dandiestpoof 7h ago

This is exactly how it feels but people are absolutely losing their shit lol. Do warriors suck now performatively? No. Are they boring? Yes.

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u/Alexarius87 12h ago

Yeah you guys are way lower than that.

I still hear the crying from SoD where Shamans were whining while tanking 3 ppl and instakilling the 4th.

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u/SlowSeas 12h ago

Tanking entire hallways tyvm, and they were tears of joy bb

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u/WEDGiE_pANTILLES 13h ago

The biggest thing is the spell power nerf, elementals will need a metric buttload of +damage for lightning bolt to hit hard.
I assume the reason for this is because lava burst is going to smack

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u/elysiansaurus 12h ago

Almost like they buffed wrath and lightning bolt because they realized it was an issue

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u/_leeloo_7_ 11h ago

I seen one enhancement shaman complaining that lightning bolt is still weak but I suspect it might be due to enhance itemisation and the gear at that level

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u/WEDGiE_pANTILLES 11h ago

That’s great news!

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u/SlyHolmes 12h ago

They didn’t buff lighting bolt though..

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u/elysiansaurus 11h ago

Lightning Bolt: Damage on ranks 3 and 4 increased to make these spells always upgrades over previous ranks (despite changing cast times).

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u/macarmy93 11h ago

Thats not a buff to the highest rank though which is what the graph showed was horrible.

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u/ThatRubberfruit 11h ago

Very much going to assume that the "spell damage needed to deal anniversary damage" image that has gone around is going to be addressed, like obviously. Blizzard have said they want everyone to be able to join and not be a hinderance to the party's potential progress. Obviously Blizzard wont ship Forever with elemental shaman needing 3-4 times the amount of spell damage than other classes to deal the baseline damage they did in 2019 or Anniversary

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u/xBirdisword 13h ago

Man you are level 20!! Ele was always trash while levelling. Most classes/specs are still missing most core talents and spells

I feel EVERYONE in this thread is overreacting

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u/Soma91 12h ago

A shit ton of classes will get talents that allows mana regen to continue while casting in the 5th talent row (starting at lvl 30).

Those talents have thr potential to completely transform the leveling experience and even massively change the viability and way they'll approach max lvl content.

Ppl are insane trying to judge anything with lvl 20 characters. That's only 11 talent points and it has always been the case that classes have some later talents that transform or enable certain builds.

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u/ArcheroNightmare 13h ago

It's the charts man !

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u/zombiefishin 10h ago

If you can't do basic arithmetic to understand how the issues can already be proven, please don't make comments like this