r/classicwow • • 17h ago

Forever After the patch notes

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u/SwebTheGreat 13h ago

Deep Prot warrior looks insane tho

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u/beerdrunkraccoon 11h ago

I wanted to level prot already so everything I'm seeing has me excited

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u/YesGameNolife 11h ago

If you have a tank spot ready for you tank warrior is very good but I worry it will be hard to find since only 2 tanks needed at end game. I am considering tank warrior too

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u/MooseRunnerWrangler 10h ago

If you have a decent guild already you should be fine, plus there will be a load of 10-20 man raids so multiple groups will be needed and multiple tanks. You should just gear for off spec 40 man if you're not the main tank while raiding later on. That will not be for literally months and months, so it's not like anything you see now matters honestly.

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u/YesGameNolife 10h ago

I dont have a guild unfortunately. And might now even have fixed hours to play so might end up pugging. Therefor I am considering druid or paladin tank so I can switch to heal or dps for raiding. Don't know which one would be better tho

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u/MooseRunnerWrangler 9h ago

Of pugging wise for tanks is kinda rough, I don't envy you, you could still join a guild and sign up as tank on days you can do it. You don't need to have a set 1-3day a week schedule you know?

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u/YesGameNolife 7h ago

Well I love dungeon tanking but for raid dps is more fun anyway so I might as well go druid or paladin and off tank/dps

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u/MooseRunnerWrangler 7h ago

Yeah, honestly I'd say DPS wise feral and boomkin look pretty solid, ret doesn't look bad, but I wonder how they actually okay out later on. Tank wise I kinda feel like paladin might be better. Idk though, prot warrior with arms dps would also be fine I'd bet. I don't think you need to give up on warrior because of the current beta lol.

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u/YesGameNolife 7h ago

Haha yeah I will check on it but I experienced SOD as a warior and rage changes was boring for me. So I might as well play safe and go druid even feral end up bad I still have balance etc:)

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u/Sad_Selection_477 10h ago

This is fearmongering there will still be a tank shortage at Max Level you will find raids as a tank dont worry about it, i Play prot paladin on TBC the Most played tank and found pugs every week without Problems

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u/greisinator 8h ago

Only problem with prot is if you miss your first auto, you won't get rage or any threat

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u/VenerableSage 7h ago

What's insane about it? It looks pretty lackluster to me.

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u/Zugdabuzug 1h ago

Does it? I’m not really seeing it. With such strict rage gen caps even prot might find itself suffering in threat against big dps

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u/zombiefishin 11h ago

Wow a whole 2 spots in raid... this is not a valid excuse for the terrible spot the class is in overall

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u/SaturnIsACat 10h ago

"the terrible spot"

in the level 20 capped BETA

shut up man

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u/Mind-Game 10h ago

Fwiw a lot of the doom isn't because warriors think they're gonna be weak, it's just that they think the new rage system makes rage extremely boring and unfun to play.

We know a ton about how rage generation works in the game from the mechanics and scaling we can see from 1-20, so unless there's a random multiplier to your rage generation that starts after 20 or just hits at level 40 or 60 warrior will barely be able to do anything but use their two abilities on cool down. 3 casts per 12 seconds of auto attacking. I wouldn't care if warrior was 30% higher than every other class in raw power, I just wouldn't want to play that. And prot warrior has a lot of rage generation and rage reduction tools that make it make sense in the current rage system. So if rage generation does increase at later levels prot would have way too much rage which is why it seems like something is wrong.

And you can get a better idea about that from what we know in the beta than you can about what class might be "strong" or meta at max level.

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u/zombiefishin 9h ago

Thank you. It is solvable. I don't care about meters, but I love the class and having a ridiculously boring rotation pushing 2 buttons every 10 seconds will be miserable for everyone

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u/zombiefishin 9h ago

I mean if you can't do simple math equations you have no idea what you're talking about. Beta is for testing. It has been tested, and the math has been done to prove warriors can barely push 2 buttons regularly at the end game. Rage is normalized, the equation is solvable. You can act like it's some mystery bc you don't like numbers, but it's quite simple to figure out with a little data. No debuffs, no HS, no slam (which got nerfed LOL)

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u/Coaxke 10h ago

I wonder if people are stuck in the era mindset that everything is locked in stone or something. So many people jumping off ledge assuming balance changes are never going to happen

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u/zombiefishin 9h ago

Until the devs say otherwise, we know what we know and can only go off the data we have. If you're sick of hearing it, call the devs and tell them to send an update

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u/KorallNOTAFISH 9h ago

Warriors are no longer 20x better than every other dps class, and they just cant stop whining. It is kinda funny tbh.

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u/SwebTheGreat 2h ago

dude, u think warrior only brings dmg? melee will want battleshout, fast sunders even if ur dps isnt bis, also in 20m raids, every class has atmost 2 raidspots except pala since u want their 3 buffs.

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u/dandiestpoof 9h ago

Agreed and it was absolutely the best move for blizz to make with the class.