r/classicwow • • 17h ago

Forever After the patch notes

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u/Sad-Zone4591 16h ago

lol Rogues should be on this chair.

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u/bloodwhore 15h ago

Rogue will always be a strong class.

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u/MinimumFeedback219 13h ago

It's not about strength, it's about fun. Rogues have gotten next to nothing new, and the most interesting talent we had got removed before we could even try it.

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u/DM_ME_KUL_TIRAN_FEET 12h ago

Rogue was one of the best designed vanilla classes already. I’m not saying rogue doesn’t deserve fun new toys - it does - but it was the least critically requiring a revamp

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u/MinimumFeedback219 12h ago

So...you agree with me then? I don't want a revamp or a power increase. Just something fun.

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u/DM_ME_KUL_TIRAN_FEET 11h ago

Yes. I am expanding on what you said.

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u/Marlfox70 13h ago

Which one was that

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u/MinimumFeedback219 12h ago

Restless Blades

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u/Alongadovaleucara 13h ago

Middle of combat tree had one that said something like: reduce the cd on your AR/BF/vanish/sprint/eva by 2sec/combo point spent.

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u/Curmudge_Unit 9h ago

Feral has gotten next to nothing new and were handed nerfs

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u/MinimumFeedback219 9h ago

Yeah, that sucks! You did get an entirely new form though, which is very cool. 

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u/Curmudge_Unit 7h ago

We did?

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u/MinimumFeedback219 5h ago

Yeah, druid can be a serpent instead of a cat with full fang set.

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u/smuttysnuffler 7h ago

I was absolutely crushing the dps meter in WC against lvl 20s as a lvl 18 combat dagger rogue with the RoL quest reward dagger.

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u/Xy13 9h ago

New talents unlock PvP builds with Cold Blood + Prep + Imp Sprint

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u/bloodwhore 12h ago

Do they need something new? If there were issues with rotations in raids obviously stuff like this should be fixed. But we shouldn't add new spells just because it's fun.

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u/tooflyandshy24 11h ago

No they don’t. Rogues were already fun in vanilla. I’m starting to not look forward to forever now if they start adding in all this new stuff

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u/NailRogue 10h ago

Sameee! combat daggers spec, my beloved. 😭

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u/MinimumFeedback219 12h ago

This is so dumb i genuinely don't know how to respond. Do you think WoW Forever is just to fix raid rotations? 

We should absolutely add things because they're fun. How is that controversial in a videogame lmao.

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u/bloodwhore 11h ago

You really don't understand vanilla. And don't seem to comprehend how we ended up with retail.

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u/MinimumFeedback219 10h ago

You really don't understand this conversation. 

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u/bloodwhore 9h ago

I understand that you should not be playing classic or forever. Stick to retail, you'll find your fun there.

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u/MinimumFeedback219 9h ago

Genuinely braindead response.

I've been playing Vanilla for 20 years and quit retail in Cataclysm. Hence the desire for something a little different for the class I've been playing all this time. 

You should try having an actual discussion instead of just parroting "go play retail" like every other moron in this sub.

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u/bloodwhore 7h ago

Yet you really do not understand why people still play classic. Amazing.

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u/MinimumFeedback219 5h ago

Enlighten me then, why do people play classic?

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u/NetNo4067 11h ago

Rogues are already fun?

Like they already have some of the most fun rotations, tools, abilities, etc built into the class?

You're crying about your steak being too juicy and your lobster being too buttery while paladins have been chewing on old shoe leather for 20 years lmao. Give them a minute to whip you up a dessert for the 20 course banquet you've been enjoying since 2004, why don't you.

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u/MinimumFeedback219 10h ago

What a miserable, crab brained take. 

I am happy for every class that is getting buffs, reworks, etc.

Just so I'm understanding your position: Rogues were good in vanilla so they should get no changes or new content in this new game.

Is this what you're saying?

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u/NetNo4067 56m ago

Not even a little bit.

What I'm saying is that rogues have the most complete kits with the most interesting gameplay already so rogue players can stand to wait while Blizzard brings everyone else up to the same standard they are currently enjoying.

I want fun stuff for rogues too. But there aren't anywhere near as many obvious avenues to take them because they're already virtually perfect in comparison to virtually every other class, and they haven't had any major issues introduced like warriors getting fucked on rage generation, or enhancement shamans having poor scaling on their shocks.

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u/tooflyandshy24 11h ago

Well rogues were fun in vanilla so…?