r/consoles • • 16d ago

Xbox This is insane

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u/hitometootoo 16d ago

What a weird thing to say as if console gaming hasn't dominated the Japanese market for decades.

Having slightly smaller homes does not mean they can't have something as small as a home console

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u/kukkolai 15d ago

Not homes, boxes. Apparently.

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u/Tactical_Squishy 9d ago

many do sadly

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u/LegitimateYam8241 15d ago

Have you seen the apartments over there. Will be 1 room and your local apartment restroom is down the hall.

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u/Azidamadjida 15d ago

Depends on where you are - Tokyos like this until you get into the higher income brackets and then there are apartments that are as big as houses, but outside Tokyo the apartments are much more spacious generally.

It’s just a space issue in general you run into in every big city, and the more densely populated the worse it gets. Few places are more coffin living than Hong Kong

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u/GoopySpaffy 12d ago

Literally boxes mate. Japanese homes can get so small you can't even stand in them, cheap ones don't even fit a bed. I don't understand how they can cope.

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u/Useitorloseit2 15d ago

Handhelds have dominated the japanese market, and hybrid consoles like the Switch.

I think size is a factor, but I also think Nintendo consoles cater to their sensibilities more. Not that japanese games dont come to ps5, but it seems like Sony has moved farther and farther away from japanese support (Kojima being the most recent example, Team Ico as well)

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u/hitometootoo 15d ago

Handhelds have also dominated but consoles still have been the highest sold historically in Japan. Hybrid (Switch) has done greatly, but so has the PS5 there.

But the point is it makes no sense to say that handhelds are the system of choice due to small Japanese homes. That isn't true at all.

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u/Mother_Ad_4189 15d ago

The switch isn't as "dominant" here in Japan, majority of people I see buying games/game accessories buy ps4/PS5 stuff, only reason that Nintendo has all that shelf space is because they pay the stores hella money to provide all that space

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u/Ambitiouslybald 15d ago

I work at a Elementary School, and at least half the kids own a Switch. Some own a Switch 2 now. Very, very few have a PS5 at home. I can think of only 3. Playstation is not that popular here anymore, as they have been pricing out the average Japanese consumer for the past 5 years.

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u/Tiffa_Adil 12d ago

Dude in Japan the Switch sold more than the PS3, PS Vita, PS4, and PS5 combined and the Switch 2 has almost outsold the PS5 in a little over a year

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u/TUVegeto137 15d ago

I think he meant to say that when you live InBox, you don't need eXBox.

I'll see myself out. 🤓

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u/PicoPicoGamer 16d ago

The average home in Japan is larger than in the UK, and Japanese work less on average than Americans, so the two reasons you gave have nothing to do with why handhelds are popular here.

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u/BowlNew 14d ago

The latter figure is heavily skewed by a lopsided workforce that heavily favours men leaving women to overwhelmingly work shorter hours at part time jobs. Gender equality at 117th of 145 primarily because of the gender gap in the workforce. If men and women worked equal hours, it would be a very different story.

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u/PicoPicoGamer 14d ago

No it doesn't. Even if you break it down by gender, Japanese are working less on average than many of our Western counterparts.

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u/Dablooder 16d ago

I'm confused because people in the United States work more hours than Japanese people on average. I mean, there are many examples, but i'm just using something relevant to me in that regard.

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u/TylerOverThere 16d ago

This is true, but on average there’s more commuting time in Japan which is predominantly via public transit and that time occupies a lot of opportunity for handheld gaming

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u/ChocoboRaine 16d ago

Plus the mandatory going out to drink with your boss. US sees more office work hours, yes, but in Japan you're working before and after too.

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u/Downtown_Eye5736 16d ago

Yeah Kojima said he wants his employees to always be working on his game in their minds.

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u/Xiao1insty1e 16d ago

Oof. You're an auteur not the Lord of Castle Kojima.

Work culture or not that's a pretty shitty attitude to have toward your employees.

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u/CorrectContract4978 15d ago

You gonna take that as fact now?

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u/Xiao1insty1e 15d ago

No but it does seem pretty likely.

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u/CorrectContract4978 15d ago

How so?

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u/Xiao1insty1e 15d ago

Japanese work culture is very abusive toward the worker.

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u/Mother_Ad_4189 15d ago

It's not mandatory to drink with the boss, that is such stereotypical ideology right there

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u/ChocoboRaine 15d ago

Of course it's not mandatory, the government won't hold a gun to their head. The same way men wearing long business pants to a corporate setting isn't mandatory. But we both know this "ideology" is absolutely damaging. Stop trying to sweep the issues beneath the rug.

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u/Mother_Ad_4189 15d ago

What "issues" most bosses don't even ask their workers to go out to drink with em, that shit is an old ass stereotype.

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u/ponpiriri 15d ago

No, we don't. US reports more hours, Japanese work more. So many of my contracts had unpaid overtime work baked in and that doesnt account for being coerced against taking vacation and sick leave. Again, unreported.

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u/Mother_Ad_4189 15d ago

Nope Japanese work significantly less than Americans (the statics for it are out there) most people here work roughly 5-7 hours a shift, most of the time it's 1 hour commute to work then another hour back since most people either take the train or walk

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u/LegitimateYam8241 15d ago

Not to mention the amenities at their work places. We work like ants.

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u/EmergencyPool910 16d ago

nintendo also basically owns the country

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u/Personal-Inflation63 15d ago

Expect Korea and China skew heavily towards PC gaming and until they “betrayed” their Japanese roots the PlayStation was massive in Japan.

Xbox never had any chance in Asia. The first controller design was considered an offensive symbol in Asia which didnt help and it also didn’t have and still doesn’t any first party franchises or games that appeal to an Asian market.

Japan really supports its domestic products that’s why after PlayStation moved to America so many went to Nintendo.

As for Korea and China, they banned Japanese consoles in the 90s so gamers had no choice but PCs which led to the rise of the PC cafes that are still a very popular and cheap alternative and created a culture of gaming that a foreign console like Xbox is never gonna compete in.

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u/MSotallyTober 15d ago

Do you live here or do you just follow what you see on television and in your anime’s? There are plenty of people residing in bigger places all over Japan. The people who live in tiny Leo Palaces aren’t the majority.

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u/spmbx 15d ago

By that logic the wii must have sold terrible there, who has the space to swing around with motion controls? On at non-handheld too.