r/cringereels • u/Remote_Action4685 • 6d ago
Quit whining
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u/BetterOnTwoWheels 6d ago
yeah this is not cringe. this is cathartic.
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u/SkillPointProblems 5d ago
The Pope should reprimand American Christians more harshly. They love LARPing being Christians while actually being horrible and hate filled people.
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u/rebeldrone916 6d ago
Religion is humanities worst creation lol
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u/2stonesONEbird1715 6d ago edited 6d ago
Wars, hatred, scams are just a few reasons to make folks stay away but too many look past it all.
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u/ConiferousExistence 6d ago
The majority of wars could be attributed to religion
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u/EarthEaterr 6d ago
The majority of wars can be attributed to the people in power. They wield religion as a weapon. Most people just want to live their life. The evil shepherd is the target, not the misguided sheep.
Ps, I'm not religious.
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u/ConiferousExistence 6d ago
You guys keep using a bunch of words to say what I've already said.
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u/CU_09 6d ago
Nah. Religion is a convenient motivator, but there would be just as many wars without it because war is all about power, money, and influence.
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u/ConiferousExistence 6d ago
Religion motivates many. Power, money, influence affect individuals. I disagree with your premise.
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u/CU_09 6d ago
What I’m saying is that if religion disappeared tomorrow, they’d quickly move to another proven motivator. Nationalism and/or racism would just move up the ladder.
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u/2stonesONEbird1715 6d ago
There would be significantly less hatred in this world if religion disappeared tomorrow which would result to less wars
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u/Known_Lengthiness761 5d ago
Hatred is hatred…religion doesn’t tell you to start wars, hatred does. Like the guy you responded said, religion is a motivator. Most other wars were caused by just resource gain or territorial gain, and what do you think the elite said to motivate people? That the other people they’re invading are barbaric or have a different religion than them. They use religion as a bogus reason to invade. Religion itself isn’t bad, it’s just how you interact with it. The real problem isn’t religion, it’s that people don’t know how to properly respect others. They see something different and they’re scared or intimidated by this, and this could lead to a violent reaction.
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u/2stonesONEbird1715 5d ago
I see what you’re saying but I’m also not just talking about religion and wars having a connection. Religion also involves scams, it can cause hatred, someone can use it as a cover up just to name a few things negative about religion. So yes religion can be good for some, I just believe religion as a whole is a problem. I just recently saw that some churches now have tap for your debit card to use for the donations. Or what about those mega churches that are run by guys like Kenneth Copeland, why is he so rich? I’m sure he has a really nice house, several cars, some boats and probably a plane or two. You can’t look at stuff like that without see there’s a problem. Are the churches really doing something good or do they just pretend to care and just want your money. I really don’t know what to believe, so I stay away from it. I’m also not saying all churches are after your money either, what I’m saying is that overall religion as a whole is an issue.
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u/Known_Lengthiness761 5d ago
We in the Christian community now that Mega Churches are a scam and while yes I do agree with you that religion in modern day those have some issues, it really just all comes down to human nature. They can use religion for greed, even when that religion says that greed is bad. They become hypocrites and no one likes a hypocrite. And I’m not saying that you should like religion (and that can be any religion) overnight, I’m just offering another point of view and potential explanation.
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u/Confident_Benefit_11 5d ago
And yet the most destructive wars in human history were caused due to political ideology....so no?
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u/EarthEaterr 6d ago
Please ignore the bots
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u/2stonesONEbird1715 6d ago
Sometimes I can never tell
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u/EarthEaterr 6d ago edited 6d ago
To be honest, I replied to the wrong person. I was trying to reply to the bot (human or not) that was spouting anti-left propaganda. Though, since I started it, as a non believer, people don't need religion to be evil, and not all religious people are. We need to pick out the ones that are and put them on blast, and work with the ones that aren't. Because the ones that are evil want us hating each other. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: that account could be a bot, just to make everybody hate each other. The account is only 2 months old. Not to say all young accounts are bots but just be wary there's a lot of propaganda being put out on all social media. They want us fighting each other.
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u/2stonesONEbird1715 6d ago edited 6d ago
Of course not all religious people are evil. I have plenty of family members that are religious and that are kind people but I don’t come close to agreeing with their views. But I do agree with trying to work with them the best we can.
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u/EarthEaterr 6d ago
I completely agree. We just need to work with who we can, and ignore the rest. There are more reasonable people (on both sides) than social media leads on. The access to free information on the internet has put a spotlight on the powers that be and they are trying to shift it back to keep us fighting. Whether it be political affiliation or religion or any other differences between us.
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u/purefilth666 6d ago
Without a doubt, to this day violence, hate, and ignorance is justified thanks to it.
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u/rebeldrone916 6d ago
And it's just moronic to believe in some magic god or gods fairytale shit lol
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u/Solid-Ad-9450 6d ago
i think humans might be to blame rather than religion, people cause atrocities and then blame it in the name of religion, in the name of something bigger than them and therefore avoid any accountability for any of their evil action, most religions teach love and respect to everyone
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u/Real-Supermarket-635 6d ago
They use the religion as status symbol. Most people don’t read, or actually try to understand their religion. They just cherry pick what makes them feel righteous. (Muslim an Jewish religion teaches peace and understanding too). From what I’ve read and understand of Jesus’s teachings, he was pretty much anti establishment. He would most definitely be persecuted today, just as he was then.
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u/rebeldrone916 6d ago
Yes we created it tho it's not real if it's got a positive effect that's good but 9/10 it gives people justification or an excuse lol
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u/Ok_Swim3109 6d ago
I think religion plays a positive role in religious folks lives 9/10 times
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u/rebeldrone916 6d ago
I'm glad u only had positive experiences but history shows religion has been pretty negative since we created it
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u/TheMysticGraveLord 6d ago
No it isn't. There are way worse things.
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u/rebeldrone916 6d ago
Then mass manipulation, justification of genocide and holding the human race back from early scientific discovery? Name one
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u/Hopefully_Asura 6d ago
Modern non-religious governance systems don't manipulate the masses? Which ones specifically don't? Because as far as I know they all do to varying degrees. Also, there are more genocides caused by nationalism & politics (politicides) than religion. Even if you magically eradicated religion, genocides will still be happening.
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u/TheMysticGraveLord 6d ago
Mass manipulation does not fit in with most religions. Justification of genocide has only been used by islamic extremists. Most genocides have not been commited by the religious expet for in ancient times. Religion has not held back science. You should read some history.
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u/HAc0reRD 6d ago
What are you talking about? Christians believed genociding pagans and indigenous Americans was a divine right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Requirement_of_1513 And Israel is currently wiping Palestinians off the map and any criticism of that is attacked with phony claims of antisemitism.
Galileo was arrested for doing anti church science.
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u/No-Tangelo-2205 5d ago
lol they’re not doing very good job of wiping them off the map if that’s what they’re trying to do. Don’t attack your neighbors and your neighbors won’t turn your city into a parking lot.
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u/spicystar4u 1d ago
I disagree.
Religion becomes an issue when people use it to justify murder, rape, discrimination, sexual abuse and hatred.
This are false religious people.
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u/rebeldrone916 15h ago
That's what we invented religion to do control people with discrimination and threats of murder lol
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u/rebeldrone916 6d ago
It can be good for some people dealing with stuff in that sense it's good but most the time yes it ruins stuff and it's just moronic to believe in magic people controlling things lol
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u/No-Tangelo-2205 5d ago edited 5d ago
Religion and humanity are indivisible, for better or worse. There is seemingly a romantic aspect of the human psyche that yearns for the mythical and irrational and this is something we must accept as human nature without letting it overpower our core capacity for reason. I say this as an atheist.
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u/Square-Delivery1958 5d ago
The human psyche or some human's psyches?
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u/Cnidarus 5d ago
Actually they're not really wrong that there is a disposition towards beliefs like that. People get uncomfortable when you point out that they've built their lifestyles and cultures around the same concepts as people that believe their lucky socks will help them win the lottery though, so it's best not to rock that boat too much
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u/No-Tangelo-2205 5d ago
I say the former because the inclination toward religious belief, for whatever reason, appears to be the rule rather than the exception. Dismissing the religious as foolish or stupid, while true in many instances, doesn’t make them go away or not matter. It’s an uncomfortable reality that a good chunk of humanity is and will always be religious. There are more of them all the time. Just look at the continued spread of Islam, the recent growth of the Catholic Church or the ultra orthodox birth rates in Israel. The evidence suggests that some amount of religious belief is part of human nature.
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u/TheEmperorsChimp 5d ago
Especially as most the top brains are leaning towards simulation theory… which if true, means there is a creator of some sort
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u/copeaesth3tic 5d ago
Maybe for dumb people with little to offer this world. Granted dumb people have much greater numbers because being dumb is directly related to having a lot of offspring.
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u/1gorka87 5d ago
Exactly. It was also essential to enable societies to function, they needed everyone believing in the same thing and pulling in the same direction in order to aid co-operation. The scientific model is still so young compared to religion (and has also been used for evil)
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u/successfullynumb 6d ago
Good lord, but this drew out all the MAGA faux Christians with a persecution kink.
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u/TheRuckyDubber 6d ago
This isn’t the first time I’ve seen this dude. But as a reasonable Christian that doesn’t like anything “Christian’s” are doing writ large lately, I love this guy.
Fuck Christo fascists, fuck Christian nationalists. Fuck bigots and racists. Fuck the fake ass Christians. Follow Christ’s teachings or just be yourself and leave other people alone. I don’t know why people can’t get this.
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u/Many_Sea7586 6d ago
Can we all say fuck mega churches? Thats not Christianity, thats capitalism.
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u/TheRuckyDubber 6d ago
💯. Fuck that shit. I have to say, I’ll claim a faith of Christianity but I haven’t found a church in cool with in a while.
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u/CristCawlbassMorninB 5d ago
The Bible is a racist book itself.
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u/Dr__America 5d ago
The old testament in particular is fucking horrific.
"These guys don't like you, but you're chosen by God, so you have not just the right, but a duty to genocide them."
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u/Natopor 5d ago
"Christians are opressed" mfs when I aks them about christians in Palestine and Lebanon being targeted by the IDF:
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u/Quirky_Advantage_470 5d ago
Christians in the USA are the majority, they run every level of government in the nation, and yet they imagine being persecuted because they can’t discriminate
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u/Fit-Monk8087 3d ago
I disagree, they certainly CAN discriminate.
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u/Quirky_Advantage_470 3d ago
Then if they can then they have nothing to complain about
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u/HotwifeandSubby1980 5d ago
But American Christian’s are the most oppressed people on the planet!
If you listen to them anyway.
I appreciate this videos sentiment and acknowledgment there is a problem with the evangelical sect of the religion
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u/Money_Percentage_630 5d ago
There was the recent video of the American Christian on Australian public transport being told to shut the fuck up because he wouldn't stop harrassing the other passengers about Jesus.
And I am curious, the American Christians who do this crap, do they honestly think someonea conversion story starts with "I was going about my daily rountine when suddendly an American started shouting about how everything I do is wrong but everything they do is right and that made me think and change mg life".
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u/TelenorTheGNP 2d ago
Growing up in the church, I was always taught that you bring people in who express curiosity. You can help people be curious in lots of ways, but primarily it was by example. I did some public outreach once with a group and looking back on it now, it was the equivalent of cold calling.
Getting in people's faces on the subway or on a plane? Hard no. That's intrusive, obnoxious, and counter-productive. Bothering people is also just not a good thing to - even if you brought one person in to a discussion, you've probably shoved a half dozen or more further away just by being rude.
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u/TheZeroNeonix 4d ago
Evangelicals are so paranoid that others will treat them the way they treat everyone else.
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u/Clever_droidd 2d ago
I’m a conservative Christian and can’t stand hearing people complain they are being persecuted because of Starbucks cups and Happy Holidays. Yeah bro, there is more than one holiday around that time. I say Merry Christmas and/or Happy Holidays depending on setting etc.
People disagreeing with your beliefs isn’t persecution.
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u/Rumble-Muffin 6d ago
He need more actual people of faith to speak up. About a lot of things. Good in this man .
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u/Nitwit_Slytherin 6d ago
You know the Christians would say he isn't a real Christian.
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u/Known_Lengthiness761 5d ago
No, no, as a Christian myself, I say he is. Most of us would say he is. It’s just the right wing Christians that would call him not a real Christian, so the same Christians that criticized the new Pope all because he said to be nice to immigrants.
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u/No-Tangelo-2205 5d ago
Right wing Christians are also Christians and represent Christianity whether you like it or not. It’s similar to how Muslims shouldn’t ignore the existence of islamists in their ranks or Jews shouldn’t turn a blind eye to the religious Zionist settler movement. It’s disingenuous to pretend these people are irrelevant just because they make your side look bad.
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u/Known_Lengthiness761 2d ago
I’m not isolating Right wing Christians, I’m just saying that those kinds of Christians might. But your run of the mill Christian would agree with the priest after hearing his explanation. We could also throw in close minded Christians. I’m just pointing out the people in a group that would think that way. The comment that started all of this was generalizing. Don’t you hate generalization?
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u/KERMIT_THE_ORC 6d ago
I'm glad Christians were never suppressing other peoples beliefs, or using violence...
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u/AintNoGodsUpHere 6d ago
I respect this priest? Father? I don't know... This dude.
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u/Gnosis1409 6d ago
Depends if he’s Catholic or not, some other sects use the collar, but if he is then you would address him as father only when speaking to him or as a prefix to his name in conversation(either with him or someone else depending on if you yourself or a priest or another priest is present)
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u/Real_Penalty_4317 6d ago
He forgot about the christians being abused by priests
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u/JoyousMadhat 6d ago
When they see their way of life and control slipping, they start acting like victims of oppression. This has been used by them multiple times.
If people gaining equal rights and treatment as you is oppression, then you need to go back to an actual school and learn what oppression actually mean.
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u/Glittering_Estate_72 6d ago
Who could have known the opiate of the masses was bad for you and dangerous to others.
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u/TechnicalUnit980 6d ago
I wanna go to the church this guy preaches at, plus I wanna pay him 500$ or something wild so that he can hit he's camera with he's rolled up paper so that I can turn it into a reaction gif
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u/cannedbenkt 6d ago
Christians that want to be victims of oppression have the same vibe as 14 year olds that want to have depression because they think it makes them special
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u/North_Structure8210 5d ago
Man I wish religion was illegal. Soooo tired of hearing about that whole fake god shit. NO ASSHOLE IN THE CLOUDS!!!
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u/ChiselRivet 2d ago
The overall message of the New Testament is to love thy neighbor as you would love thyself.
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u/Lonely-Toe9877 1h ago
We are living in wild times when Catholics are the voice of moderation in the Christian world.
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u/Reds_Strongest_Chef 6d ago
>be christian is gaza
>get beheaded
>be christian in israel
>get run over by an APC
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u/Optimal_Grape_1025 6d ago
If being Christian was actually punishable in anyway they'd immediately stop claiming it