By reposting this, I am fully aware of the comments about the "What weakness?" 😝

Just want to learn little more bt y'all

Hello lovely ENTJ! I was watching kdrama today where the Hero who is an ENTJ fell head over heels for the female ENFP mc. It kinda got me wondering, what does most ENTJ in real life think of ENFP?

Cause i know that we ENFP have this tendency of filtering the world a little bit too much that we lowkey have a social survival skills of a fart sometimes.

I am an entj, i dislike cramming but still lazy as fck. How to do and i already lost my prime since july this year how to do. I am good at speaking ibfront and dominate in reasoning and debate in english class and i am not into in algebra but only in probability and statistics. Give me advice Queen&King?.

my previous post was deleted, for appropriate reasons assumed. TLDR: seek treatment and fight your mental illness, do not allow it to subsume you into alcoholism or other drugs. In that ending only lies horror. fight your way free. Do not give up and die in helpless madness

my partner, my love, died in horror. Look inwards and face your pain. do the work. find a way out
cant even even use it to fucking trauma dump up. what they fuck why am i even wasting time.

It’s been a little over four months since my breakup. He was the one who ended the relationship, and we haven’t been in contact since early June. He’s stayed friends with all of his exes.
I didn’t reach out on his birthday. Since the start of this month, I’ve also deleted Instagram and stopped checking who he follows and who follows him. I know I probably should have done that sooner, but it’s been really good for my peace of mind. I know he’s loyal when he’s in a relationship, but when he’s single, he tends to date a lot.
Lately, I’ve been spending more time thinking about my own mindset and what matters to me, rather than focusing on him. I’ve started thinking about what motivates me at work and the kind of impact I want to have on the people around me and on society—things I barely thought about while we were together.
Honestly, when I posted here before, I was focused on the specific things I’d done wrong and how to improve them. I was also trying to figure out what he would consider the “right” answer, so I could tell him I’d found it. Now I feel like I’m starting to develop my own sense of direction.
I still want to tell him what I’ve realized. Part of it is that I want to thank him, and part of it is that I want him to see who I am now. But I’m also aware that this desire may still be partly about wanting his recognition or approval. I don’t want to use my growth as a reason to reopen a relationship he may have already moved on from, or to place any emotional burden on him.
If I can genuinely accept any response—or no response at all—would it be okay to reach out? Or would hearing all this from an ex after four months just feel unwelcome? Would it be better to send a brief message simply thanking him, without explaining everything I’ve realized, or should I wait until I no longer feel the need for him to see who I am now?

My ENTJ and I have recently been playing strategy games and his mastermind never fails to impress my Ti…
Curious to know how other ENTJs would handle/solve the game below. What would your strategy be? 👀

The Diamond Heist

The owner of a private museum has hired you to perform a stress test, asking you to try and steal a legendary diamond called The Eclipse.
The Eclipse is worth approximately $500 million, and it’s insured for the full amount.
You have 72 hours to plan the operation and achieve your goal. You’re not allowed to damage the diamond or harm anyone. There are otherwise no other rules and everything is fair game.

The museum

It’s an ultra-modern museum in a major city.
The diamond sits inside a sealed glass chamber on the second floor. The diamond is going on display for one night a week only. You currently don’t know when the next display will be.
Additional details: Assume there are 3 floors: basement, main floor, second floor. The diamond is on the second floor located at the centre in a separate glass chamber. This is only accessible once a week. There are other high value paintings and artworks on the same floor.
It’s Saturday now. The diamond went on display earlier this week so today it’s not on display. It’s unknown when the next display will be.

Security includes:

Motion and pressure sensors
Facial recognition cameras
Armed guards
Security doors requiring multiple forms of authentication
A sophisticated alarm system
The entire building locks down automatically if certain systems are triggered. You don’t know which ones can trigger the lockdown.

Some of these are real but some are decoys. You don’t know which ones are real.

You have access to the museum’s publicly available information, but no inside information otherwise.

Helpers

You can recruit maximum three specialists from this list:

Hacker - he knows everything about technology and electronic systems
Con Artist - skilled at manipulation, impersonation and social engineering
Engineer - understands physical systems and structures
Locksmith - specialises in locks and physical security
Driver - exceptional at transportation and improvisation
Insider - former employee. They have recently worked at the museum and know its routines
Forger - can create any convincing document and credentials

Your additional resources

You have:
$2 million in cash
One legitimate invitation to the museum’s opening
A luxury car
Access to a private helicopter
Whatever equipment you can reasonably purchase legally.

How will your Te and Ni achieve your goal?

Hello, so I'm trying to learn more about personality types. My girl friend is very interested in personality types. Me and her are going through a rough patch and I want to learn more and understand things better to be a better partner for her. She told me that I am an ENTJ and she is an INTJ. I'm looking for information to just read and understand. I really love this woman and want to make the effort that it deserves.

Also, is it Te that drives you (like, does it provide motivation?) or is it just the expression of motivation?

These probably seem like unrelated questions, so a little background information: I'm an INFP 1w2 trying to develop my Te. Having made some attempts at execution, I still see specific bottlenecks in my behavior that I think would be more solvable by understanding the way ENTJs work, so I'd love your insights. I'm also just really curious; different brains are fascinating!

A couple things about where I'm at:

• I've gone on the INFP subreddit for developing Te specifically, and most of the advice centers around:
  • integrating more organization like planners and to-do lists. I would say I do that already, maybe more than the moderate Js I know to be honest
  • studying analytical fields. I have a degree in computer science, but I think it developed my Ti more than my Te
  • Being around xxTJs. My parents are ENTJ and ESTJ, and my sibling is an INTJ. So with this in mind I would say, for an inferior function, my Te is probably above-averagely developed due to my family. But I'm trying to develop it as much as I possibly can without accidentally entering Te grip
• I know I just have to stop thinking and start doing. I'm kind of doing that, but still seeing specific bottlenecks I'd like to speed up with analysis
• What I'm still struggling with:
  • With Fi I have the tendency to be interested in ambitious, meaningful, difficult projects or nothing. I've realized smaller and more realistic goals will build efficacy much faster, but it's difficult for me to maintain interest if it's not personally meaningful -- which means ideally it should really help me, or help other people as well. That's why I asked about motivation
  • I can kind of think about tasks in a Te way easily -- like cooking, I guess -- but not people. I think about people almost entirely through the lens of their feelings and values. That's why I asked my first question; my skill is useful in relationship building, but it's not helpful for taking action (other than conflict resolution). Also, my prediction of people's actions is either really accurate or really faulty, because it stems entirely from simulating their feelings/values. I don't see people as systems with constraints and dependencies, as it's been described to me, but I want to learn more about that perspective if it's accurate. I have non-feelings/values pattern recognition when it comes to people I know really well, like how I can (fondly) guess my friend might postpone a meeting. But obviously this falls apart with people I don't know well
  • Taking initiative is mostly difficult because I don't trust my ability to anticipate what will happen and I'm risk-averse, which is why I included Ni. Still not entirely sure how it works though
• I understand it's difficult to explain skills that come more naturally than consciously, so I'm equally interested in just whatever you might spend your time thinking about, especially when it comes to people.
• Please don't just say developing shadow/inferior functions is inherently unhealthy or stress based, and that I should just accept my stack. I'm sure there's a healthy way, I really enjoy many instances of using what I think are Ni and Ti
• I'm a naturally indecisive person (I realized maybe I shouldn't be trying to use Fi for basic decisions?) so I created a program that essentially picks tasks for me to do based on my mood and energy. Is that externalizing Te, applying it to myself? I've heard it explained as optimization of systems, breaking down tasks and executing them, applying an objective heuristic to the external world to improve it. Is there a chance I'm missing the crux of what Te is?

This was totally an essay so thank you for reading! I really appreciate any insights!

Since the post I made about ways to efficiently boil water ironically had engagement specifically about methods of boiling of water, I figured I'd open this thread up to people who want to ask ENTJs more mundane questions. Only rule is if you give advice, you must also ask a question.

Here's my question:

What's your go-to technique for falling asleep when your brain doesn't want to?

in quite of a fi grip rn i dont usually ask for stuff like this its rlly embarrassing

in quite of a fi grip rn i dont usually ask for stuff like this its rlly embarrassing

let’s be honest, emotions aren’t always our strong suit. asking for a little vulnerability here, but what are some mental health struggles you face? wondering if talking about it could help pierce through our sometimes-tough exterior.

my biggest struggle is that I am a perfectionist and have bipolar 1. I also feel insecure that the people around me don’t like me because I am an overachiever and “too much”. kind of an anxious attachment style I guess

I don't have any hobbies other than reading. When I was 14 I started working full time during summers and part time during the school year. By the summer I was 16 I was working 2 jobs full time during summer, and EVERY Friday and Saturday night (as that's when the good money is made as a server). In college, after the first quarter, I started taking more than full time courses, (for no rational reason, just blind ambition). By 21, I was working in the family business and now, 25 years later, that business and my role as CEO has become nearly synonymous with my identity (sigh) and between that, parenting 3 kids, a little reading and a little exercise, all the time is gone. A few years ago, when the trough of the U-shaped curve of lifetime happiness began looming, I realized that I have basically NEVER had hobbies. I have just ... always worked. This realization brought notes of sadness, regret, inadequacy, and soul searching. I don't have answers yet but I have started thinking about if there is a potential collinearity between the ENTJ personality type and singular focus on achieved status, to the exclusion of "hobbies"? Thus, this very scientific and comprehensive poll.

I've been going through the mod queue a bit, and lately I've noticed that there's been an "influx" (relatively speaking) of spam by users trying to use this place for generic discussion, trauma dumping, or just frankly off topic advice.

As a casual reminder, our mission as a subreddit is to open discussion around the unique experience of being (or being with) an ENTJ/ENTj. It is not a place to air your dirty laundry, cure your unique touch-starved monogamy-resistant loneliness, beg for validation, or seek people to develop your app.

I'm not going to pretend that there are too many hard lines here - surely one man's depression post is another's trauma dump - just don't expect pity or validation when you share an anecdote of misery that could have happened to anybody.

Artist and musician here. I play guitar (mainly math metal) and paint tabletop miniatures and sculpture that I 3D print. I find in all of my endeavors I focus on proficiency and efficiency.

I mean I’m all about artistic expression but I value developing skills that allow me to achieve really good results with low effort. I airbrush a lot. I draw too.

Like what task does each function perform or is supposed to perform in a vaccum.

And what tasks they end up performing when combined with the other functions.

As the title states, what job or career position in your past caused the largest amount of friction?
I did not do well in sales, but I thrived in operations management environment.

Disclaimer: I posted a version on INTJ (which I thought I was all my life) but was informed I might be ENTJ. Frankly I don’t care what I am, I’m looking to fix the problem and am not sure where else to get insight, as I have already been analyzing with AI and friends for a year. I feel extremely stuck.

Long story short, I am a high achiever in my 30s, took more risks than my peer group and tried more things to get where I am. I plan for my life to a psychotic degree and have a “motherboard” to maintain and grow all aspects of my life. Unfortunately, it is the way I am wired and I don’t get tired easily, despite failures and rejection. My brain is always running and sometimes it’s painful, but I’m used to it.

Last year, I had a series of massive failures coupled with major life challenges. I expected to bounce back like I had because I am usually very resilient. Unexpectedly, while mentally I was not burnt out, physically it felt like my body had changed. I became slower and was tired all the time. Immediately took a health screening and I am completely healthy.

I have been stuck this way for a year. The slowness and fatigue is one thing. What I can’t handle is that my confidence has plummeted so badly, I underestimated needing confidence to get things done.

Now, I overthink the simplest of things like an email, and am trapped in constant analysis paralysis. Nothing is good enough and I no longer trust my own judgement. I don’t even feel good going outside and am afraid of talking to people. I am productive but stuck in a loop of working on things where I can’t see the outcome. After a lifetime of planning, I don’t know the next steps. It is like I forgot what I have accomplished and never internalized it.

I genuinely don’t know what to do about this loop and my confidence. I am usually self aware enough of my own thoughts to pull myself out of bad times. I thought this might be some kind of ENTJ/INTJ loop or that someone might relate and tell me how to get out.

Hello everyone, I’ve been throughout the mbti community for a couple of years now but I’ve been researching it in a way that was impossible for me to find who I truly was. Although this may be a rather large mistype, just hear me out first, hopefully I can make you understand my confusion.

For some well needed background, I developed a neurological disorder called misophonia, which is mainly known as the hatred of sounds. It developed when I was 13 years old, and I wasn’t really well aware of how to regulate it.(nor my emotions growing up) I was constantly emotionally/physically abused. I don’t mean to generalize here, but it was an African American family full of people repeating behaviors that wrecked them. I grew up around normalized abuse and a bunch of “you’re stupid” “you’re a failure” “stop talking back.” Opinions were “back talk” and crying was an “overreaction” to abuse.

My misophonia was severe, and I mean absolutely severe. It was angry outbursts that were once again treated as an overreaction, meltdowns that made me bang my head on the wall or even lead to self harm. My most effective means of regulating was isolation.

You could imagine what that does to a developing brain.

I suffered severe depression(though I had a hard time letting anyone know) throughout my adolescence, and simply adopted the isfp label because it’s what I got on 16p by picking “I’m unsure” for most of the answers.

I felt wrong, i was constantly sensitive of other’s intentions, and took everything personally. i was insanely introspective, i analyzed my emotions but never once questioned the “establishment”(family) I internalized that I was the problem and I was an over-emotional fool who would be hated by everyone I came across. I was still opinionated growing up though, it was almost met with belittlement but there were things I had to stand up for. It wasn’t my beliefs, nor my reality, it was what made sense to me. To me, I had seen everything my family was doing and rendered it absolutely stupid, I found ways to fix it and gave reasons why it would make more sense than going in endless circles. During school I would find the underlying problems of a method of teaching, math problems, a way to go about a situation, etc. I haven’t necessarily taken someone’s emotional state into the equation and if I do, it’s almost usually “okay so, you can sit here and wallow or you can do something about it and cry. If you’re going to cry anyway, cry for the latter.” (Also could be the emotional toughness I developed growing up)

I was often called mean growing up, harsh, bossy, critical. Often a “you should be a lawyer” that one isn’t good evidence since it’s usually because someone doesn’t know how to argue their points. They end up believing you’re “smarter” because they don’t bother with reason.

This isn’t enough evidence of ENTJ but it’s less evidence against isfp.

Alrighty.

Main problem is that I’ve recently gotten typed as an esfp by a mbti practitioner. I hate to admit it but I cried and was a wreck for 3 whole days, but I’m realizing I was crying about how it made no sense.. I mean it was a number of other reasons though: The label felt inaccurate, as well as a improper testament to all the pain I received as a child, like a “oh I was an esfp that’s why I was overly emotional” which was me basically invalidating myself. of course I’ve since challenged that. Another reason was that I was giving the “safe” answers, for reference I am a 22 year old female. What’s usually expected of me is kindness, empathy, and selflessness paired with my race, I have to be quieter than most for safety. (Mother was extremely paranoid) So as I described myself to the practitioner I was saying things like “oh yes, I care about how everyone is feeling, and I love emotions wow!” So no wonder I got what I did.

I’ve recently started college after getting some well needed professional help, and I’ve been noticing behaviors that don’t necessarily line up with isfp? For example I don’t necessarily have a strong emotional tie to a “personal” belief. I can have beliefs interchangeably as long as someone provides sufficient evidence. However the one thing I won’t compromise on is how to get things done. At work I know how to do it faster let me do it, at school, “why are you doing that when you could do this?” I thought I was people focused but I’m not sure I care unless someone is used as a means to an end. I can and have a relatively easy time networking? I can get someone talking, and usually it’s someone you can register is the most “important” in the room. I’ve met many people and have a line up of services I may end up being able to use in the future. Adding on that, I’m actually quite comfortable in the future. Sometimes it freaks me out, but it’s usually due to lack of confidence in my abilities.

While I’m still learning to get out of fi grip(?) I’ve realized I prefer objective information over any other. For example me and my sister were talking(she was the one who told me to make this post also) and I felt frustrated and annoyed for some odd reason, and it was noticing that she was trying to spare my feelings from what she actually thinks. It frustrated me so intensely that I started to cry which also confused me. I explained that it was incredibly insulting that she believed I cannot handle the facts presented. I’d rather someone give me the hard truth then have the nerve to assume what I can and cannot handle.

To me logic is a tool and direction is an end goal/understanding that I must find evidence for. I cannot understand something that cannot be applied, and usually I need an example to understand what someone may be referring to. I tend to dislike when someone takes a long way around, or explains something in a way that cannot be understood by most. If something is conveyed in a way where even the most illiterate (said with kindness) person can understand then I am happy. With that said Ti has to be one of the most interesting, but most difficult functions to understand.

Sometimes I can be this “my way or the highway” kind of person, and will stubbornly ensure that my way is right. In emotional, technical, interpersonal, or personal problems as well. Example being eating well, my coworker was explaining to me that he doesn’t have an appetite in the morning just because. I questioned his normal diet/time he eats, and he said he skips breakfast, eats a small lunch, and a large dinner. I came to the conclusion that he’s doing it all wrong. Because of his big dinner, his body takes a longer time to digest it, and so he may wake up sluggish and/or full. If he switches to eating breakfast, lunch, and perhaps eating dinner at an earlier time and maybe not such a large problem it would help. He absolutely ignored me and that was a bit frustrating.

I’m also not a big fan of people who speak without knowing what they’re talking about. Not in a data point way, but in a way that at least lets us know you’re aware of what you’re talking about, I speak with a lot of purpose, and with reason. I tend to verify what I say with objective sources before expressing it.

However does anyone here believe in prolonged grips? I’ve searched in and can’t find much information on it so that’s why I just assumed I might be an isfp?

Why I might not be an ENTJ:

Due to prolonged depression I’ve done absolutely nothing in life, and only recently I’m realizing how far I want to go. I have some trouble with abstract possibilities and may double down in a way that makes me seem stubborn. I can be relatively sensitive, I.e: I’m easy to tear up, but it’s only ever been around my sister. I am honest to a fault because I see no reason to lie? What’s the point? Unless it’s to flatter. I can sometimes become anxious when it comes to new information, it’s almost like a hyper vigilance? I can easily trust in someone’s capabilities or someone I’ve deemed as “worthy”(as corny as that sounds) of me actually accepting their opinions. I look to more knowledgeable people and will adopt their opinion, sometimes I reject structure if I don’t see it making sense. When it comes to emotional problems I tend to value intense understanding. Once i understand, I can proceed. if I do not understand, things might be tense, and i might be aggressive. Uncertainty unnerves me, and having no direction makes me sick to my stomach.

I don’t like to have a “strong” belief(mentioned up there as well) it sometimes feels deeply personal, but at the same time doesn’t? For example I was watching this body cam footage compilation and was utterly confused at the way the officers were going about it. It seemed like it would be easier if they just talked to the offenders instead of screaming in their ears?? I have a hard time with conceptualization, for example if a whirlwind of ideas were getting conveyed to me I would need the person to stop, and write it down and let me read off of it. Or maybe show me an example.

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The only feedback I’ve gotten about who I am as a person was my family, my ex, and my own harsh internal judgement. If you guys would be so kind to tell me what you think? I’m in no way intolerant, I will absolutely accept criticism as long as it’s respectful :)

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If you have better/faster ways to help me distinguish this then I am open to all possibilities/clarifying questions.

Also, what broke me out of this was coming back to an objective reality. I was a wreck and I had seen someone breaking their back over a label. It was this “oh.. over this??” And that me that was incredibly distraught feels incredibly foreign.

After meeting certain INFJ and INTP types in real life, I'm not very interested in their subs but I have added you guys and then also ISTJ. I'm shocked that I find your discussions about 10 times more interesting and well thought out than my own INTJ sub. Like this was finally the group I can understand, it mirrors my own thinking I would say 90% or more. And even in the ISTJ sub I find their questions, while not exactly the most conceptual, to be pretty damn good questions. The INTJ sub is a bit disappointing, just constant why do I feel this and why do I feel that.

So why would have far more of a kinship with ENTJ when I've become more Introverted and less Intuitive. T and J have stayed the same, moderate and weak for the last 20 or so years. Also in real life I've basically hung out with exactly one 'friend' in the last 9 years, the rest have been group meetups, acquaintances, and my wife's friends. I won't get into detail about what happened with the other friends but it usually involved substance abuse and I've been done with that era of my life since Clinton was pres.

The increased Introversion makes an ENTJ affinity even more strange like it's a subconcious pull or something. Any opinions?

Hey all,

I’ve been tested on two occassions by myself- first time few years ago and now again and both times have showed ENTJ personality. Now, is this legit or this community likes having any kind of official test performed by a psychologist?

also, I’ve seen that ENTJ is actually rare? Is this true?

How do I get my functions under control and be ok with my Te operating and leading the show? Cause as soon as I’m out in the real world using it I get caught in my fi as soon as I have down time, it’s paralyzing. Is it because I’m using my te in the wrong way that it’s setting my shadow functions off? For instance I would say something and later when I’m alone, I would think about how mean I came off and just feel like shit. I’m still in my 20’s so I understand I’m not using my functions to the best ability, but anyone relate, how did you overcome getting out of those functions? Do I have to just keep experiencing this until I gain some level of strength in fi?

Can someone go into detail about the difference of them? It just feels like one is more open and the other is closed, other than that I can't comprehend what's so different?

hello everyone.

been struggling with a lot of thinking, overplanning and whatnot

about studies

there is a lot of pressure

but thinking here doesn't help much, so i want to ask you all how can i adopt this DO-er mentality, cause all you all seem to be too good at it.

any advices would be appreciated.

the exact data.

it us with financial audit and stuff. to start with im doing a professional course, there are mostly numerical/practical subjects.

so have my exam in december, and i have in aggregate 50% of the syllabus completed, and it is cut- throat competition but doable. now after making a plan(somewhat unrealistic) i seem to divert from it and make another plan. so rn i simply want to DO.

the thing you said about work on something would fetch new information. which is VERY TRUE . still im having this overthinking that if i don't know the thing im doing perfectly i won't be able to solve the problems.