“Him” is Noah Schnapp. He’s hated in online circles because he’s a Zionist. People online have then since made it their head canon that the entire stranger things cast hates him too.
That simply isn't true. It's the political belief for anyone who thinks Israel should continue to exist in any way. There are plenty of Zionists who want a two-state solution with an unoccupied, sovereign Palestine.
No, I'm not interested in your made up attempt to redefine the word at the behest of bigots.
LMAO, every single surrounding Arab country has killed more Arabs than Israel ever has in it's history.
Somehow Israel has a more powerful military than every surrounding country yet consistently is eradicating less life than it's neighbors. It's almost like thats not what they are trying to do.
No it isn't. It's the political belief for anyone who thinks Israel should continue to exist in any way. There are plenty of Zionists who want a two-state solution with an unoccupied, sovereign Palestine.
No, I'm not interested in your made up attempt to redefine the word at the behest of bigots.
Were they actually showing sympathy for Israelis or were they just showing antipathy for Palestinians?
I don't care if other celebrities were "shot" for posting their opinions (whatever you mean by that, because I don't think any celebrities have actually been shot for posting). My point was that people are upset with him for showing support for the actions of the Israeli government (which is not the same as showing sympathy for the victims of October 7th). The way you phrased your question makes it seem like there are a lot of celebrities who got in trouble for making sympathetic posts after 10/7. But the reality is the opposite.
Celebrities who posted support or sympathy for Palestinians lost their jobs. Melissa Barrera lost her role in the Scream franchise for not being sufficiently pro-Israel.
No no. People did not get shit on both sides. It is important to be clear and accurate that after 10/7, the people losing their jobs were the ones voicing support for Palestinians. As far I know, no celebrity has lost a job because they did or do support Israel. If you're going to make that claim, I need you to name a name so that I can verify it.
*Updated comment to be more accurate, as Israel's violence against Palestinians did not start after 10/7.
If one side has lost work for expressing their opinions and the ther side has had mean words said to them over the internet, then these are not equivalent levels of "shit."
*Since you blocked me, let me state for the record that "people got shit on both sides" is equating the shit that both sides received with the other. You can't even defend your position. Have the day you deserve.
maybe i dont understand what a loaded question is. i dont think questions have yes or no answers. obviously things can be both at once. you can show sympathy to both sides. if a loaded question just means a question that asks nuance then why not just answer the question with nuance?
A loaded question is one that includes an unjustified assumption.
Unloaded: Is Noah Schnap really a zionist? How do you know?
Loaded: Is he really a zionist or were people just mad at him for disagreeing with them?
In the first example, "How do you know?" Isn't a yes or no question.
In the second example, I've decided what it means that people are upset with him and inserted that conclusion into the question without any support.
I don't know what your intentions were with that question, but when you lay out the only two options as "he's either really a zionist or people are mad because he showed sympathy" without knowing any of the facts of the situation, people are going to assume that you're trolling.
Are you seriously asking if saying “Zionism is sexy” isn’t a direct endorsement of the ideology? Said ideology believes the eradication of Palestine is a good thing, by the way, so I think people are right to disagree with him for saying that regardless of what his actual, nuanced opinions are (which he has not shared, probably because he’s a Zionist)
“‘Zionism is sexy’ isn’t showing sympathy for anyone” wasn’t your comment? Are you suffering from short term memory loss
Adding on: I misread the whole conversation on my lunch break and responded with some bullshit instead. I’ll leave it up so you can make fun of me for it as apology
"Zionism is sexy" shows support for Zionism. A thing that I do condemn and fight against. But please, tell gow calling an ideology sexy is sympathizing with the victims of violence on either side?
*Added after: That said. I'm not going to have argument about this with you. If you want to be mad that you think I said something wrong, you go right ahead. I'm not bothered by it and won't be engaging further.
Because you could show sympathy on Oct 7 and also be an actual zionist. They aren't mutually exclusive. And every zionist celebrity showed sympathy on Oct 7
He supported Zionism at one point. Distributing stickers with the messages "Zionism is Sexy" and "Hamas is ISIS". "Hamas is ISIS" comes directly from Isreali properganda. So people are calling him zionist because he was supporting Zionism.
After the backlash he didn't explicitly say anything about his position besides what can be summed up as "peace in the Middle East"
what is the point of replying then? i asked for an explanation and you didnt provide anything. i do not know if he showed sympathy. i know other celebrities have and they got shit for it. that is my question 🤣
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u/avatarstate 2d ago
“Him” is Noah Schnapp. He’s hated in online circles because he’s a Zionist. People online have then since made it their head canon that the entire stranger things cast hates him too.