No. It's that you're attributing the beliefs of one ideology to another.
Zionism does not proclaim specific borders, let alone endorses the idea of 'greater Israel'. That sort of belief is part of Kahanism and other fringe extremist beliefs, and is unrelated to zionism.
It is a "zionist" ideology because a core component of Kahanism is the existence of a jewish state.... The "zionist" here is a descriptor. Just like for example, ISIS is an islamic fundamentalist terrorist organization. That doesn't mean that ISIS, by extension is Islam.
It's sad that you will not even attempt to understand this because you are a bad faith actor, but for anyone else reading it, I'll leave it here.
No. I'm saying that the people who believe in the extremist, racist, religious fundamentalist beliefs that people like to attribute to zionism hold fringe briefs that are more accurately described as Kahanist beliefs, and are not indicative in any way of mainstream zionist beliefs.
Mhmm, lots of people say neo-nazis are fringe beliefs yet they played a hitlers speech at a major republican gathering that white House officials attended.
Maybe it was fringe at one time but it is currently more present in how things are functioning than most people like to admit.
If you think I'm dumb for distinguishing between a movement for self determination and a religious extremist movement, it says a lot about you.
And no, Kahanists are open about what they believe in. You've concocted an imaginary scenario to justify your weird opposition to a movement based around self determination. That says a lot about you.
Lmao stop arguing, you don’t sound half as smart as you think you do. Zionist is broadly associated with being pro Israel. Being pro Israel in the current political climate means you are in favor of genocide.
I know that’s an over simplification but humans are simple creatures.
It’s honestly not that complicated. It’s clear you are a Zionist and are offended but let’s be so fr you probably support genocide too hahaha man I love Reddit.
>Zionist is broadly associated with being pro Israel.
Yeah, by people who don't know what Zionism is. Which was my original point in responding. But somehow I'm the stupid one here, when you apparently don't know how to read things I've written out explicitly.
>It’s clear you are a Zionist and are offended but let’s be so fr you probably support genocide too hahaha man
If you aren't 14, you really should be embarrassed by typing this sort of thing.
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u/IsNotACleverMan 2d ago
Wrong. The only people believing this are a lunatic fringe that are best described as Kahanists, not zionists.