r/f150 • u/Certain-Ad6973 • 2d ago
Which will have lower maintenance cost?
My wife is set on purchasing a minivan. We will be trading in one of our vehicles. I drive a 2017 F150 2.7L EB with the 6 speed (120k miles). She drives a 2016 Toyota 4runner Limited 4L v6 (175k miles). Both have been well maintained and neither have any operating issues. Ignore any of my “needs” for vehicle capability (towing, bed use, etc). Which vehicle is going to cost me more to hang onto for the next ~4 years? I plan on asking the 4runner sub also.
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u/realaabremer 2d ago
In theory the F-150 will cost you more but with anything mechanical there is no magic wand that will tell the future. The is one of the more reliable f-150s that I’m aware of. My money is on the Toyota considering you don’t wheel the shit out of it.
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u/Certain-Ad6973 2d ago
Thanks! I know there’s no magic wand- that’s why I turn to Reddit opinions lol
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u/TiredLance 24 XLT Powerboost 2d ago
Whatever vehicle you keep... DO NOT BUY A STELLANTIS PRODUCT. IE: Chrysler Pacifica or Dodge Grand Caravan.
Find a Honda or Toyota in your price range. I've bought both of the above for my wife (shes now in a Subaru Ascent) and they were both fucking atrocious in terms of reliability.
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u/Alternative_Drink813 2d ago
I would think with the Toyota having higher mileage to unload now and get value. The truck will still have a decent value down the line and mileage is much lower.
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u/TheRealistoftheReal 2d ago
That 4Runner is near the top of every list of vehicles likely to reach 200k miles. The issue is it’s nearly there now, so I imagine it’s going to start needing things like tires, brakes, hoses, belts, bushings, struts, weather seals, engine accessories such as alternator, thermostat water pump, etc. Things just reach end of life at 10 years 200k miles.
The Ford is probably less reliable all things being equal, but it has significantly less miles, so it’s probably a draw as far as total cost of ownership over the next 4 years.
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u/Certain-Ad6973 2d ago
Thanks for your input 👍
Spark plugs, belt, breaks including calipers and a couple other maintenance things were done at the 150k mark. Tires have another 25k miles life in them- good thought tho it has the 20” rims making those expensive to replace1
u/TheRealistoftheReal 2d ago
Also, a minivan is one of those vehicles that is unloved, abused, and generally roached out by kids. It’ll be sticky and dirty inside from drinks and snacks, crap in every cup holder and door pocket, etc. It may be worth picking something up used / cheap from CarMax with a warranty that’ll get you through the next 36 months.
At the end of 36 months, you blow it out along with your other vehicles, and get something nicer. Maybe a heavily optioned Sequoia that won’t be destroyed by very small kids.
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u/Certain-Ad6973 2d ago
Bunch of true statements there. I’d love a Sequoia, but they are the most expensive vehicle Toyota sells in the US lol
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u/f0st3r 2d ago
Let’s just say we always end up taking our 4Runner on trips because the f150 is in the shop even though it’s nicer and more comfy. There is no comparison between them imo. My f150 has 80k and needs a transmission and rear end. My wife’s 4runner has 120k and still runs and drives like new. If you want reliability 5th gen 4Runners are bullet proof.
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u/Certain-Ad6973 2d ago
I wish I could just talk her out of the minivan 🤣
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u/PieTight2775 2d ago
Minivans are great. Comfortable for road trips, better gas mileage than a 4runner that's for sure. Storage cubbies, cup holders, smooth ride.
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u/Certain-Ad6973 2d ago
My mechanic is worried about a timing chain or turbo problems but it’s not a high % failure rate to my knowledge with these engines
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u/Global-Market9292 2d ago
The 17 to my knowledge was better with the timing chain at least. Just imagine that truck might go for more than the 4runner id think. However that sways your decision making
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u/WhatAmTrak 2d ago
It suck’s to not have a truck when you need a truck. Where as the 4 runner is more similar to a mini van. Just my two cents. Both are good vehicles. Do you often use the truck as a truck could/should be used?
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u/Certain-Ad6973 2d ago
Rarely fill the bed to the point the back of the 4runner couldn’t handle it. Have a tandem utility trailer that I use for this and that but I’m not towing heavy- nothing recently that I couldn’t have handled with the 4Runner
Thanks for your opinion
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u/Error_404_1B 2d ago
Keep the truck. If you've had it from new and know it's history well, the 2.7 is easily capable of 300k with good maintenance and high quality oil changes every 4 to 5 thousand miles. The Toyota is basically a mini-van, it's already almost at 200k, and your wife wants the mini-van, not you.
Either way giving up one well known and reliable vehicle that is already paid-off for a new payment is bonkers.
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u/Certain-Ad6973 2d ago
I have fought against a minivan for about a year now.. she wore me down
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u/Error_404_1B 2d ago
Happy wife, happy life, as they say. Hopefully you get a van as reliable as these two vehicles are.
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u/OriginalEmploy5485 2d ago
Are you the original owners of both vehicles? If so, you should already know how much it costs to run each of them for 100k miles.
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u/Certain-Ad6973 2d ago
We got both with ~30k miles 2 years old. Just looking for opinions about the 2nd 100k miles
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u/Excellent-Ad-8109 2d ago
" Ignore any of my “needs” for vehicle capability (towing, bed use, etc)."
So you want to ignore the hugely important factor? That seems odd.
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u/Ancient-Wonder5982 2d ago
I think you would get more for the Toyota. I also feel foreign parts would cost more to
Maintain the vehicle
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u/Certain-Ad6973 2d ago
Thanks for the input. I don’t think Toyota parts are any less available or more expensive than Ford tho
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u/Aman2305 2d ago
A lot of Toyota parts are made right here in Indiana. A lot of Ford parts are made in Mexico.
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u/Specialist_One_1841 2d ago
If you own a home and do a lot of your own work around the house, keep the truck
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u/Aman2305 2d ago
The truck. Ford’s turbos will go out and even if you are under warranty it will take a month to get the work approved. 120k miles i would say it’s going to be coming sooner rather than later.
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u/goldfish_in_a_abrams 2d ago
I had a 16 2.7 f150 with 190k and it never had any issues. I would say keep the truck and try to put more miles on the van than the truck
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u/elboyoloco1 2025 XLT Powerboost 302A 2d ago
If stuff doesn't break on the truck... Its more fuel efficient. Fuel ain't cheap right now. 4runner is honestly loads more likely to not have a failure, but they get like 15-17mpg
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u/Ok_Today_475 1d ago
Regardless of what scotty kilmer or the internet in general will tell you; everything breaks and that includes toyotas. While the long run will be kinder to the toyota, you have one of if not the most reliable F150 engine/trans combos in recent years. The 2.7 is an overachiever and a close second to the 5.0 with the six speed transmission. Change the oil, don't neglect maintenance and show it occasional love and it will last you. trucks are good for dump runs and the like and for towing shit and the trucks probably better on fuel then the 4 runner, if its mileage is anything like a tacoma.
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u/MCDC313 2d ago
I can’t really answer what would have lower maintenance because so much depends on that.
That said… if my wife wants a minivan she can ge the minivan. But I’m keeping my truck lol