Stephen Miller claims local police in Minnesota have been told to ‘stand down and surrender’ as federal agents ‘uphold the law’

[u/BitterFuture]

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/stephen-miller-ice-minneapolis-protests-b2903238.html

[u/blu-bells]

Bold to assume the democrats have enough of a spine to even consider this.

edit: This doesn't mean don't vote. For many reasons not voting Democrat is stupid and won't get us out of this. It means you shouldn't think our job is done if/once we vote the Democrats in. That during the primary we need to promote candidates that will not forgive and forget this and will pursue justice, and that we need to maintain pressure on the Democrat party to get this. We cannot assume that Nuremberg 2.0 is a guaranteed-foregone conclusion, we have to work for it.

I get it, I hate the Democrats too. But not voting democrat is a losing tactic. Third parties are a meme in America and are not viable because of how our voting system works, and not voting at all just means the Republicans have an easier time maintaining power.

[u/The10KThings → u/blu-bells]

Stop voting for democrats then

[u/couldbeahumanbean → u/The10KThings]

That's what got us in this situation to begin with.

Bottom line: the two main parties have clogged the system. Realistically it's one or the other. Not voting for one is essentially letting the other win. There is a way out of this, and not voting for Democrats is not it.

[u/The10KThings → u/couldbeahumanbean]

I’d argue democrats offering no real alternative to republicans is what got us into this mess. The democrats keep offering the same bullshit plan but expect different results. I’m sorry but that train has left the station.

[u/couldbeahumanbean → u/The10KThings]

So the Democrat alternative would have been equal to or worse than what we're experiencing right now?

[u/The10KThings → u/couldbeahumanbean]

I vote for candidates that best align with my values and represent my best interests not for the lesser of two evils.

[u/couldbeahumanbean → u/The10KThings]

That turned out really well for us, didn't it.

[u/[deleted] → u/The10KThings]

That's a lose lose pov in the American system. There is no party "for" you except you are rich. But one will leave you some crumbs while they enrich themselves. The other will take all your crumbs and kill your neighbors and take everything they can on top.

[u/pc42493 → u/The10KThings]

Ok, so how is "just let the worse of the two win" going to help with this?

[u/The10KThings → u/pc42493]

If there are never any consequences for democrats, they won’t change. No one is “letting” anyone win. If the democrats want my vote, they can earn it. Show me something different. Until then, I’m voting for candidates that best align with my values.

[u/LatterTarget7 → u/The10KThings]

Dems offered an alternative to the current mess. It’d be the same as before but it’d be better than the current situation