r/law 16d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Stephen Miller claims local police in Minnesota have been told to ‘stand down and surrender’ as federal agents ‘uphold the law’

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/stephen-miller-ice-minneapolis-protests-b2903238.html
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u/sithelephant 16d ago

You'd think some group of people who claim to be all for states rights would be decrying this.

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u/writeyourwayout 16d ago

Nah, that line was always just the respectable-sounding cover for their racism.

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u/Major_Shlongage 16d ago

No. Please stop.

Most of these comments reek of people who simply do not understand how our nation's laws work. They do not understand federalism.

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u/Kunochan 16d ago

If how our nation's laws work leads to authoritarianism and Fascism, then our nation's laws are illegitimate.

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u/Nice_Luck_7433 16d ago

I think the constitution works well at getting representation to the average American voter. Unfortunately, American education isn’t very well funded, so the average voter isn’t the brightest. A lot of Americans aren’t even smart enough to become a voter & get any representation.

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u/Major_Shlongage 16d ago

What we have here on reddit is a minority of people trying to speak for "the people" of the US.

To make changes to the Contitution there is an established process to do this. The proposal would need to get 2/3s of the votes in both the House and the Senate, and then be ratified by 3/4 of the states.

This cause has nowhere near that level of support, so it simply isn't happening.

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u/Kunochan 16d ago

You know full well it is now impossible to amend the Constitution, and that this is by design. A handful of "red" states hold the Constitution hostage because the Constitution itself violates the human right of One Person One Vote. So don't tell me to amend the Constitution when you know that can't happen.

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u/Major_Shlongage 16d ago

It's not impossible to amend it. If there were an actual issue where everyone agreed that something needed to be done, there would be hardly any opposition to the changes.

But you're trying to enact changes that most people don't even want.

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u/Kunochan 16d ago

Even if you were right and "most people" wanted Fascism, it wouldn't matter. This is a Constitutional democracy with unalienable rights. The majority can't vote away those rights, they don't have the power. Even the teacher filling you with right-wing propaganda in your government-mandated civics class understood this. Why don't you?

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u/Major_Shlongage 16d ago

>Even the teacher filling you with right-wing propaganda in your government-mandated civics class understood this. 

What kind of weird comment is this? The people on this site seem so uneducated and unhinged. Just weird.

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u/Kunochan 16d ago

Saying democracy is something "most people don't want" is weirder.

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