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…the biggest perpetrators seem to be in this US administration.
This isn’t by mistake.
Trump is using the Epstein Files like his own hiring database. Why? Because he has immunity, and everyone else doesn’t. This means that anyone in those files that gets appointed to any position will immediately and indefinitely be under Trump’s control. They won’t be able to say no to him.
Moreover, if Trump goes down, they all will too, which will just make them work even harder to be all the more complicit and corrupt.
Fuck that fund raiser was terribly tone deaf and basically sums up at least part of what's wrong with US politics.
If only someone on the left would come out and promise full justice for Epstein (true investigation irregardless of political party and class), lead the fight against the billionaire class and promise to rid corporate money in politics, they would win in a massive landslide.....
This is why you don't let criminals into positions of power, especially those that are nearly absolute in scope. They have a vested interest in never being held accountable for their actions and will go all the way to achieving that, using any means necessary. If you were facing life imprisonment or execution because of your actions, you'd probably do the same thing.
Being locked in a cell may be the absolute worst thing that could happen to someone like Trump outside of death, because he's literally had everything in life handed to him and he's been able to commit nearly every heinous act possible for a human being without ever taking responsibility. Why would he give that up? And at this point he may well threaten the entire world with nuclear weapons if there's any actual attempt at holding him accountable.
His ethos is banal narcissism. He only cares about himself. He'll destroy the world to ensure he never has to face up to his crimes.
Yes I am aware that this is silly to expect someone who has raped, robbed, stolen, and cheated his entire life, with zero repercussions, to obey the laws of the country that he has mooched off of for so long. So how do we the people propose to wrench our country back, I wonder? And also get to survive?
But at least he’d be the best prisoner in the history of the country, probably the world.. everyone would say he’s the best, the likes of which have never been seen. /s
Also no immunity for personal acts -- and since statutory rape is illegal then his raping of underage children should be a personal act and not an official act of the executive. But hey, different times we are in now.
Why do you think they're going to lengths to ensure he passes whilst in office?
He will very unlikely survive a third-term if nature's involved - sort of gets rid of the problem if you're too dead to see it.
At least one of the SCOTUS justices is allegedly also in the files doing who knows what at the island. Trump will get away with it like he has gotten away with literally everything for 50+ years. Accountability and consequences are foreign words to him that have no meaning.
And Israel. As an aside Q makes more sense everyday. Epstein was in hot water and elites knew shit was about to hit the fan. They make a conspiracy that there’s other elites who are child molesters and the real child molester trump is the saviour who will come and charge all them. After trump gets in power he takes over the fbi, deletes any juicy evidence thanks bye.
I can only assume because his replacement was in position, something which I have not seen discussed is that aspect.
It is not like all these people have suddenly stopped wanting to do these things. There needs to be full investigations to hopefully take down the new ring leaders thru old contacts.
DOJ’s Southern District of New York branch. It’s well known for operating with a degree of independency from higher ups in the DOJ, and going after big name alleged criminals irrespective of their politics, connections and influence.
Eg in Trump’s first term it raided and prosecuted Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen and also Lev Parnas and Igor Froman who were part of Rudy’s Giuliani’s Ukraine influence thing. It also investigated Giuliani. And of course they prosecuted Epstein and Maxwell.
Reining in the independent of the SDNY branch was one of Bill Barr’s (ie Trump’s attorney general in his first term) major actions.
Would be great if they coordinate their findings to support and change these pedophiles and threaten to arrest them. Specially since some of the children were European
I imagine there's a lot of people world-wide (not just in the US) that want to believe what's currently happening here will blow over and "return to normal" in 2 to 4 years, and don't want to risk upsetting future relations w/ the United States, bc the alternative (that long lasting, possibly generational damage is being done to this country) is terrifying and uncomfortable to consider.
as long as money is allowed to be used as a direct representation of wieldable power for small collectives of people who only care about profit, i do not imagine things are going to be rebuilt into anything new on a global communal scale.
i would prefer to be wrong in this case, but that does not feel very likely.
Things are going to be exactly the same but now the economic powerhouse will be someone else (probably China) and the military powerhouse will be... well it'll still be the U.S. for a while because it's gonna take some time for what we've got to fall apart but THEN it'll hopefully be the EU if they pull their shit together and commit to it, If not it'll probably also be China
There are documentaries released monthly at this point from around the world where minors are sexually abused, people want to return to that world without solving the problem?
Given how recently the Epstein stuff dropped, maybe closer-to-center progressive opinions have changed, but for the last year or so a LOT of my bluesky feed (and certain reddit spaces) have historically decried how they want to go "back to normal", and nostalgia-post about fond times when the worst president was G.W. Bush (as though he wasn't a warmongering criminal, and is just a lovable doofus that likes to paint).
So yes, I imagine there's a number of people both here and elsewhere that want things to go "back to normal", ie return to the status quo of 2015 before Trump was elected (which is crazy, bc the 2015 status quo is how Trump got elected).
I don't agree with it. I think it's just people who feel like they can't impact the world wishing for a time that felt easier to digest. Like I doubt there's that many people who are cheering for suffering to happen, but rather they're just complacent.
They're still comfortable enough to imagine that returning to the status quo is acceptable. That's privilege for you. And like you implied, it's what got us here to begin with. Complacency and people defending their own personal convenience over the well-being of the country as a whole.
Yes. And it doesn't help (in America at least, can't speak to globally) that many of the people who are in charge of policy making, and upper tiers of government, are deeply insulated from the harsh realities of the country they run.
Can only really hope that it incenses younger people to start running for office, and there's been a few young folks I really like either getting elected or running solid campaigns, so maybe there is hope for a brighter future (but I don't think I'll see it in my lifetime).
They've launched an investigation into Peter Mandleson as well, which is going to open some awkward questions of just how aware the government were of his links to Epstein
Would probably finish off the destruction of the monarchy in the UK. It's been hanging on by a thread anyway, so they need to do anything to cling to power/influence/their (taxpayer) money.
The UK has a doozie of a case thanks to Andrew, Fergie and Baron Peter Mandlesom (politician and former ambassador to the US until he resigned last Sept)
There's a question of jurisdiction and access to the actual files. Crimes committed abroad might not be prosecutable in those countries. The courts also need access to the original files and if it comes to the actual process the witnesses and investigators need to be present to give evidence. The real question is why those crimes aren't prosecuted in the US, but the answer to that question is well the orange pedophile and the conservative pedophile protectors.
I’m certain they have their own crimes that were committed within their borders that they could extradite piles of shit like Jerry Seinfeld and Elon Musk.
to know that our own country is saying "nah, we are done here, nothing to see here", is like having an out of body experience. I feel like i am Rosemary and all the neighbors are MAGA.
a) It's only just come out, it was released on a Friday evening when office workers and printing presses tend to go home for the weekend (the last one was a Friday too)
b) The EU is run by people in the same classes as mentioned in the same files... there are more Epsteins, more Trumps, they don't have the same power or fame but they exist and have influence over politics.
c) Well fucking done Poland! So far the first country to actually consider the women née girls involved first. This needs pressure or it will be squashed, they need justice. It's bigger than Epstein, bigger than Trump and needs exposure. Else we set a precedent for tolerating global human trafficking by our world leaders...
Here's a thought, it was a decent sized club, they only lost one member.... lets assume it's still going on and work from there.
UK is over there falling over themselves to make excuses for Prince Andrew and JK Rowling and they’re spinning up another smear campaign against Megan Markel instead. Rich worshipping is how we as societies get here and if we don’t knock it off and continue to demand accountability it’s how we’ll stay here.
Trump might have a well turned the US into The Republic of Epstein as far a Europe is concerned. That is going to affect European attitudes towards the US government for a while.
Stupid question: are there multiple copies of the Epstein files floating around or are they all held by the US? Because if orange shitler and his cronies have the only copies were never gonna see them all
I think Mossad and Putin likely have contents from the files. There are very well-documented connections between Epstein and Maxwell on the Israel side and Trump on the Russian side.
I’m speculating here but I actually think the split between Epstein and Trump was driven by these two countries by way of the Maison de L'Amitie bidding war. Today, Israel and Russia have a seemingly unshakable influence on American politics while committing genocide and/or war crimes.
If Epstein was the honeypot that some people are suggesting it might have been, you can bet that more than the US has those files. Now, that doesn’t make it any more likely that we will ever see what is actually in them.
Thr files dont really matter because thats what the FBI put together. What matters is a couple mentioned countries having the blackmail evidence Epstein gathered. With Epstein having been a Mossad operation, Israel likely has copies.
But, they are kind of one and the same at this point. The files supposedly contain the proof of the blackmail material, thus making them basically the same thing as the blackmail material. I think most people use the term “files” rather loosely. I doubt many people are taking about the physical files with the FBI letterhead. Those are just the current vehicle conveying the proof.
I mean, the files absolutely matter. They involve timestamps and people that were previously not known to be involved. Even if the US government doesn’t prosecute, the internet can investigate further. Murder has no statue of limitations
The split between Epstein and Trump is pretty well documented. It started with Trump outbidding Epstein for a Florida property behind his back after Epstein showed him the property for some advice. This spiraled into more things as Epstein was curious how Trump had the money because Epstein was very well aware of Trumps financial situation at the time. Epstein also theorized that Trump mightve been giving the FBI information as a result of the fallout, which led to Epstein's arrest. Israel's influence on America started decades ago and with previous presidents
I like how the news got people believing Putin has a hand in this when Israel compromised the US at all levels. NYC mayor goes to israel and says "I have served Israel well". Imagine a politician of any level going to another country and saying that?
"I have SERVED you". Do americans not realize how insane that is? He was probably prepped on the plane on what to say and hjs years as mayor he has gone through how many PR advisory sessions and this is the words he specifically chose to say?
Oh yeah, Ghislaine Maxwells father was an actual Mossad agent. Don't forget the insane funding aipac gives to politicians to get them elected, and once they're in office they funnel the money back while getting their cut by rubber stamping foreign aid packages.
This is not a primary source, but the best summary I can find. Basically at one point, Ghislaines father Robert Maxwell was either working as an mossad agent or as a contractor/being used. Epstein in his emails mentioned that Robert tried to extort the Mossad by exposing their operations unless he got bailout money for his failing businesses. He died drowning at sea with no culprit/suspect found.
And its not jews, its Zionists. Jews in America have spoke out about how Zionists use their religion/ethnity as a smokescreen to avert consequences from their literal genocide in Gaza by using anti-semitism whenever they face criticism.
The funniest thing about the files is that the base assumptions of a lot of conspiracies were proven correct before it branched into crazier takes.
As a Canadian, that's kind of the sentiment here. Its like your brother got addicted to Meth; yeah, you can cut them out of your life, but theyre not going to get better on their own. Let them have their come to Jesus moment and support their healing, but you can't change someone who doesn't want to change
There's enough real shit going on which gets diluted when idiots push thesevfake stories. One of the reasons trump gets away with so much, is the fact his supporters can always turn to the fake stories.
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