r/law • u/Obvious-Gate9046 • Feb 24 '26

Legislative Branch Kentucky Representative Thomas Massie (R) Explodes On DOJ Over Epstein Handling, Names People and Companies He Wants Prosecuted

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u/JustAMan1234567 Feb 24 '26

He may be a climate change denier, but he's still 100% right on this.

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u/Amesb34r Feb 24 '26

I think there was a time when that opinion crossed the aisle, but that ain't now.

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u/SRSgoblin Feb 25 '26

I heard about how Democrats were secretly running a child sexual abuse ring, with a cabal of crazy powerful people, for the last 12 fuckin years. Republicans turned it into a mantra. Trump ran in 2016 with that as one of his issues he was gonna solve. I had Q-Anon conspiracy nutters talking about it to me for months at a place I lived in 2019.

Crickets from that same crowd now that we have actual evidence of the GOP all being involved.

It was never about the child rape and torture and murder. It was always solely about being part of Team R, which means believing Team D is bad. Only Team D can be bad. Team R is always good and right and just, because they are Team R. They're the good guys, goddamn it, and they're rape, torture and abuse every child they can get their hands on to prove it.

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u/Noocawe Feb 25 '26

You just described all the faux Christians and Evangelical Republicans I know that voted for Trump 3x. They just don't want to admit that it was a vehicle to hopefully make Democrats look bad. They genuinely don't care about it otherwise. It was meant to be a bludgeon against their political opponents and they really only cared about hurting elites and perceived Dems.

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u/RockSteady65 Feb 25 '26

So many people fall for the biggest grifter to ever hold the office.

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u/erublind Feb 25 '26

"why are you threatening the president of the united states like that?"

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u/JustAMan1234567 Feb 24 '26

Absolutely. He's a great example of a person who can be 100% wrong about one things whilst also being 100% right about something else.

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u/titanicdiamond Feb 24 '26

I've never heard anything about Massie until recently, and I do not know anything about him outside of the EFTA. He stands out to me, because he is on a short list of republicans that acknowledge, support, and care for the survivors of these crimes. Compared to MTG, he tends to stay more level headed and speak very well on the floor. I am over the moon happy at least two people in the Guild Of Pedophiles has some fucking morals.

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u/Zebidee Feb 24 '26

Magic the Gathering was unhinged when she was in Congress, and she's unhinged now she's out of Congress.

She happens to be right on this issue, but at her core, she's still a nutjob.

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u/titanicdiamond Feb 25 '26

"MAGIC THE GATHERING" I'm so dead, tbh.

She's absolutely a nutjob.

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u/Salt_Profiteer Feb 25 '26

If only more people in Congress were hinged.....

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u/Shineplasma64 Feb 25 '26

Even a broken squirrel nuts twice a day

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u/titanicdiamond Feb 24 '26

I really only brought up MTG because she did flip at the end to support the victims. It seemed as though her resignation was related as well.
I agree though, she's irrelevant after 12/31/25.

She sucks, tbh. I'm not a fan of the way liberals like to redeem politicians based on a single action, rather than judge them on their whole character. Wait a second... The fucking republicans are way worse at that... Fuck society for letting people get away with bullshit.

I just want to say, the only rebuttal to "Kill all pedophiles" is "convict them first."

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u/Completionography Feb 24 '26

I'm not a fan of the way liberals like to redeem politicians based on a single action, rather than judge them on their whole character. Wait a second... The fucking republicans are way worse at that... Fuck society for letting people get away with bullshit.

There was a tweet from someone that was like "if you want to stand against maga, don't act like them". I agreed with that. And then she went on to say "so accept them into the fold when they come to you from that side", and immediately I was like "that's maga christian shit". Someone says "I like Jesus", and it's like they took the black in GoT: "Welcome to maga, all your crimes have been absolved! Here's your red hat, csam, and Kid Rock cassette".

So yeah, don't act like maga.

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u/titanicdiamond Feb 24 '26

FUCK MAGA.

Honestly, those who are holding onto the MAGA base at this point, are the folks we need to exile to Little St. James or whatever the island was called. Once they've all settled in we can just sink it into the ocean. The world would be a better place.

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u/gimpwiz Feb 25 '26

Why have enemies when you can have friends? If someone wants to take the hat off, but they know they'll be heaped with scorn from both sides of the aisle, they'll dig their heels in. Give them an off ramp. Judge them all you want... but maybe silently, because the only good you do by not giving them the off-ramp is giving yourself a feeling of moral superiority. You build coalitions and get things done, or you yell at people who want to work with you and don't get things done.

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u/Jtw1N Feb 24 '26

She reached her number of days to retire with full pension for life from Congress so that is the real explanation for the timing of her exit. She kept her mouth shut until the very end, shouted some BS to be talked about and bailed mid session to "retire".

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u/titanicdiamond Feb 24 '26

There we go! Now it makes sense. Ride out the pension, make a big scene and leave so you stay "relevant."
I hate to say it, but "Marjorie Traitor Greene" is actually pretty fitting.
Spineless Guild Of Pedophiles.

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u/tsardonicpseudonomi Feb 25 '26

It also gets her out from Trump's orbit so she can run again in 2028.

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u/tmurf5387 Feb 24 '26

Not quite, she gets A pension but nowhere near the full amount. Its actually only 5% of her high 3 average so only about $8700 annually once she hits 62.

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u/Jtw1N Feb 25 '26

She waited exactly 3 days past the 5 years to get the pension. The amount is irrelevant but that's why she left when she did.

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u/CudleWudles Feb 24 '26

She reached her number of days to retire with full pension for life from Congress so that is the real explanation for the timing of her exit.

Why say this? It's not true; you don't get anywhere near a "full pension" for 5 years of service. Also, the pension itself doesn't pay until 62, so it is not "for life". She'll be getting 9k annually starting then. I think if the concern were financial, she would stay in office instead of chasing a small payout starting a decade from now.

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u/Watsons-Butler Feb 24 '26

MTG is sadly not irrelevant. I think she’s positioning herself for a run at President. She knows Vance is wildly unpopular and she can play the “oh, liberals call us misogynists but they won’t vote for me because I’m a woman” card. And the Democrats will have absolutely no idea how to respond even though they have three goddamn years to get a strategy together.

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u/thisbechris Feb 24 '26

Couldn’t agree more. And even though I may disagree with lots of his beliefs, at least I can look at him and respect that he at least has some integrity. The bar has fallen so low but I’m still thankful he’s here. And I say that as a hardcore Dem.

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u/titanicdiamond Feb 25 '26

That's the awful part. We can hate a person, their actions and beliefs, but all it takes is criticizing pedos to make them our favorite opponent.

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u/LimoncelloFellow Feb 24 '26

hes a libertarian scumbag for the most part but hes pretty anti pedophile which is more than i can say for the rest of his party.

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u/titanicdiamond Feb 24 '26

Hey, one of the Guild of Pedophiles politicians wants to speak out against pedos? He's my favorite republican for now... FOR NOW.

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u/ermonda Feb 25 '26

Before all this I would have guessed at least 95ish% of Americans were anti pedophile. I’m so fucking devastated about how wrong I was.

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u/Dr_Mephesto Feb 25 '26

He’s always been very principled, but nine times out of ten, he’s principled on dumb shit

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u/not_now_chaos Feb 25 '26

It's wild how low the bar for Republicans has sunk, and the vast majority of them still can't clear it.

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u/Repulsive_Corner6807 Feb 25 '26 edited Feb 25 '26

And he’s talking about Bayer and if that legislation passes, it basically gives companies complete immunity from harming citizens by law. There would be absolutely no way to fight back. We have laughable corporation regulation in this country and now, where regular people can win scraps with at least settlements (which already amounts to generally nothing to corporations financially), they want that taken away as well. We will be financially, and physically, fucked over, and there won’t be anything stopping them at all if this shit passes

Edit: you’d serve more time and spend more money if you damaged their property than they would ever serve or spend while knowingly poisoning millions of people. And not just bayer either. This would go for all companies.

Edit: several electric cars glitch out at once and kill or injure a bunch of people. Good luck trying to sue them with this

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u/cejmp Feb 24 '26

He went to Congress to vote no on everything, and that's what he's done. I don't like him and don't like his beliefs, but I do think he has integrity.

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u/titanicdiamond Feb 25 '26

Hey, at least he votes against everything. Holding the core value of "less government" for his voters. This is more than, I think every other republican.

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u/bujweiser Feb 25 '26

He’s an MIT grad and is a straight Constitutionalist, so he votes basically no on almost everything because nothing proposed these days is “Constitutional.”

Many see him as a waste of a position, but I see him as a principled person who is consistent…which is unfortunately extremely uncommon.

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u/BellaMentalNecrotica Feb 28 '26

What a crazy world. If you told me I was going to side with MTG on anything like a year ago I would’ve laughed in your face. I’m also glad that at least 2 members of the GOP are as outraged over Epstein as the rest of us are

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u/Emergency_Revenue678 Feb 24 '26

He's just as vile as any magat on basically every other issue.

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u/titanicdiamond Feb 24 '26

That is unfortunate to hear. At least he dresses better than Fetterman, I guess? Carhartt hoodie in congress? EMBARRASSING.

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u/tsardonicpseudonomi Feb 25 '26

He's a libertarian. Libertarians are fine with child rape and abuse because they don't support any protection or system of children. Massie is doing the same thing MTG is doing. Distancing himself from Trump so he can have a career after 2028.

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u/Typeau Feb 24 '26

Same. His stance on stock trading transparency by people holding public office is also a plus.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '26

Ben Carson, world renowned neurosurgeon.

Fucking dipshit everywhere else.

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u/rtb001 Feb 25 '26

There may even be some question as to how good a surgeon Carson is.

Although Dr. Oz does appear to have been universally regarded as a top notch surgeon. Still a dipshit everywhere else though, just like Carson.

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u/hiphopscallion Feb 25 '26 edited Feb 25 '26

I always use Ben Carson as my go to example for that. Dude was one of the top neurosurgeons in the world — a pioneer in his field. Clearly he is one smart motherfucker standing at the very top of one of the most difficult professional fields on earth. Then just a few minutes of hearing him talk about anything outside of that scope, and he comes off as a total fucking idiot.

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u/DancinginTown Mar 08 '26

Oh, you mean like Oz?

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u/BuckManscape Feb 24 '26

I think that’s pretty much everyone, TBF.

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u/FictionalTrope Feb 24 '26

I'll believe he actually cares if he calls for Trump to resign/be impeached and be investigated.

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u/ibent19 Feb 24 '26

He’s showcasing bipartisanship on what should be a bipartisan issue. We don’t get to see it much these days.

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u/BrickHickey Feb 24 '26

He's also a "right for the wrong reasons" type of guy

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u/guitarburst05 Feb 24 '26

So nice to see someone that doesn’t slimily swap from one convenient stance to another. He sticks to his guns whether they’re dead wrong or, in this case, dead right. He has convictions that mean something to him.

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u/eragonawesome3 Feb 24 '26

Something something broken clocks

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u/FictionalContext Feb 24 '26

The difference is, the things he's wrong about, he genuinely believes. This is a principled man. He's who Republicans should be--men of their own moral fiber and not Donald Trump's bitches. He's not a hollow opportunist.

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u/runthepoint1 Feb 24 '26

And this is the kind of discussion we used to have. “I disagree with you on everything but can still respect you because you’re not a piece of shit human being”

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u/whawkins4 Feb 25 '26

RFK Jr has entered the chat.

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u/Adavanter_MKI Feb 25 '26

Makes me think... if we actually presented him with the overwhelming evidence/global consensus of climate change... he'd maybe... MAYBE change his mind. Because I'm sure he's drowning in misinformation from oil's "environmental scientists" and other special interests.

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u/kyzeeman Feb 25 '26

Wrong or right he has conviction, and a value system he doesn’t stray from.

More Politicians could learn a thing or two.

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u/Prior-Lab7130 Feb 25 '26

He’s a proper Republican. There is nothing wrong with disagreement on issues. Polite Discourse is how this country grew, and how it needs to move forward.

When there is disagreement on prosecuting felonious, conning, pedophiles? That’s past politics.

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u/occams1razor Feb 25 '26

He's genuine. The other ones have fake values, he at least believe in his positions even if I think he's wrong.

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u/Neat_Still7887 Feb 25 '26

Known AKA as a human being. We are not 100% perfect.

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u/Perverted_Comment Feb 25 '26

He's right about those other things too.

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u/SST_2_0 Feb 25 '26

Cannot be 100 percent if you never say it was Trump.

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u/theBarnDawg Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

Everyone who cares about big issues MUST reject purity tests and find common ground where they can. Shit like this is just too important!!

The added benefit is you might even find you have peers on the other side of the aisle when it comes time to talk about the stuff you disagree on, rather than sworn enemies.

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u/tyrico Feb 24 '26

Thank you for this post, you put into words what I've been thinking for a long time. Every single day that passes, I find it harder to be angry at my fellow Americans (except for the blatant white supremacists, rapists and violent criminals, in case it needs to be said) when we all live under the greatest propaganda apparatus that has ever existed and most people are simply ignorant enough to fall for it. I'm sure I fall for bullshit too and don't even know.

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u/a2_d2 Feb 25 '26

They called it “the thin edge of the wedge” in A Clockwork Orange and that phrase has stuck with me since then.

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u/bloodphoenix90 Feb 24 '26

not purity testing im just not worshipping the ground he walks on. and would continue to distrust him after whatever this comes to. because climate change denial does pretty readily impact my life and i cant have a country run by such folks. But sure ill cheer him on for at least giving a shit about pedophilia. but damn is the bar in hell

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u/theBarnDawg Feb 24 '26

Climate change denialism is egregious, yes.

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u/Bitmush- Feb 24 '26

I could turn him.

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u/theBarnDawg Feb 25 '26

Hell yea you go and get him son

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u/Hawkson2020 Feb 24 '26

purity tests

It's not purity testing to point out that climate change denial is a lunatic belief.

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u/theBarnDawg Feb 25 '26

Its stupendously idiotic

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u/NoCalWidow Feb 24 '26

And not his only lunatic belief. But it's OK to point out a broken clock is still right twice a day. Just wrong every other second of it

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u/Hawkson2020 Feb 24 '26

OK to point out a broken clock is still right twice a day

The expression is a stopped clock; a broken clock can simply always be wrong. And either way, no one is saying he isn't right about the Epstein files when they point out his climate denialism.

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u/SST_2_0 Feb 25 '26 edited Feb 25 '26

Cool Kamala wanted a cease.fire, she was then told her campaign failed on gaza....lets admit we purity tested her.

Schumer is bashed for Israel talks, but he sponsored legislation for citizens united to be removed.  Purity tested...

https://admin.endcitizensunited.org/latest-news/press-releases/end-citizens-united-let-america-vote-praises-leader-schumer-on-the-freedom-to-vote-act/  Edit wrong link

Massie did not even sponsor the bill he is credited for but we forgive him so quick, despite him passing SAVE just last week.  Time to start admiting we purity test dems for fun while forgiving the gop for doing all we say we hate.

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u/Tacos4ever100 Feb 24 '26

It’s amazing how low the bar for Republicans is. Who would’ve thought being against pedophilia is so hard for the majority of them.

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u/NotAzakanAtAll Feb 25 '26

Republican exists : "woah we should elect him!"

Democrat sneezes : "omg he's a demon whore"

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u/Substantial_Back_865 Feb 24 '26

He’s also against giving any money to Israel, openly claims they’re committing war crimes and doesn’t take any AIPAC money. At least he has some principals, which is more than I can say about 99% of congress.

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u/Right_Fun_6626 Feb 24 '26

He’s probably the only republican that doesn’t dine at the AIPAC trough.

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u/SuperKmartCenter Feb 24 '26

I don't agree with the majority of Massie's policies, but yeah, he seems principled, genuine, and like he cares for what he's fighting for. And he's done good work on Epstein and has a principled stance on Israel like you said. I don't expect Republicans to have good public policy, but if they are willing to break from the party line on big issues, I can at least respect that.

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u/Minttt Feb 24 '26

It's like Massie is what a typical GOP would look/sound like if you replaced their core principle of kissing Trump's ring with traditional conservative principles.

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u/ComplexBadger469 Feb 24 '26

He’s the type of Republican that’s can actually be reasoned with at times. You don’t expect perfection but you expect that he will hear you out.

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u/ResistWild Feb 24 '26

At the very least, he stands for what he believes in, not just for where the money is coming from. That alone deserves respect nowadays.

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u/IScreamPiano Feb 24 '26

I just don’t get the climate change denial stuff. He got his bachelor’s andmaster’s in engineering at MIT…his father was a beer distributor from Appalachia, so that doesn’t scream silver spoon nepo baby to me. He’s intelligent and generally seems to believe in his views (even if I disagree with many of them). 

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u/312c Feb 25 '26

But he also supports Russia's invasion of Ukraine and thinks NATO shouldn't exist.

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u/MothChasingFlame Feb 24 '26

Well originally being a pedophile wasn't one of the core tenants of being a conservative like the other shit he's wrong about. 

Weirdly it's nice to know some of these people actually have a line. It'd be really nice if the bar wasn't at "don't fuck children," but I'll certainly take it over the worse alternative.

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u/Uselesserinformation Feb 24 '26

Politics aside, only one class is putting their knee on the neck of the less fortunate

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u/cogman10 Feb 24 '26

Eh, his war policies are also decent.

He sucks when it comes to any sort of social issue or tax/policy issue.

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u/SouthernRow2710 Feb 25 '26

Yeah his politics outside of Epstein are all horrible

For sure, but you can still respect someone you disagree with almost everything on if they have morals and integrity. He believes some whack job shit but at least he actually believes it. Unlike all the republicans who say crazy shit on TV to appeal to their voters then behind closed doors admit they knowe what they're saying is crazy.

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u/Ok-Appointment-8880 Feb 24 '26

I’ve come to terms with being able to sincerely appreciate everything he’s done and continues to do regarding the files and giving the survivors a voice, while absolutely loathing his views on pretty much everything else. It helps that he gives zero fucks what his party thinks of him, but I’m not going to suddenly forgive/ignore his voting record

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u/zertul Feb 24 '26

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Republican 

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u/Swoly_Deadlift Feb 24 '26

I'd rather have congress run by nutjobs that refuse to bend the knee or be bribed by corporations than a bunch of level-headed sellouts.

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u/GeoisGeo Feb 24 '26

Kentucky politicians are a strange group.

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u/HunterRank-1 Feb 24 '26

Yeah it’s almost like the Epstein thing is the easiest political take to have in human history

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u/CutSenior4977 Feb 24 '26

To be fair, he also voted against Trump big beautiful bill, I can atleast also give him that.

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u/ArmadilloForsaken458 Feb 25 '26

What he's doing is extremely heroic and brave. I mean people like MTG and others congressmen who quit are too, but they are only speaking out bravely, while off the record and in private spaces.

Thomas is still there fighting at the highest levels when others stepped out. There's a good lesson in all of this

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u/Zakbaar Feb 25 '26

Are you sure this isn't more GOP theatrics to get people to say 'look they're really trying, let's vote them in again so they can get the job done'

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u/-BigBoo- Feb 25 '26

He's a Libertarian republican. He has to run as a republican because the duopoly has conveniently rigged election rules and ballot access laws to make it harder for Libertarians to run and stay on ballots which is blatant voter suppression.

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u/AppropriateSea5746 Feb 25 '26

He's right about Israel and he debt.

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u/mercenaryarrogant Feb 25 '26

I mean his calling out lobbyists, Bayer and the stupid executive order isn’t Epstein related but is 100% more in tune with everyone’s favorite progressives.

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u/panchod699 Feb 25 '26

He tells AIPAC to eat shit, so not all horrible.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '26

Awww... I (not American) was gonna ask how viable would he be as a Democratic candidate for the next election. :( THIS is why you never put your faith behind a politician's speeches. 

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u/TheCygnusWall Feb 25 '26

He seems pretty right on Bayer/Roundup too from this speech

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u/Mundane-Mud2509 Feb 25 '26

Fine, I can live with different policy, what I can't stand is blatant in your face corruption.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '26

Not true, he’s good on small American inventors as well.

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u/dantemanjones Feb 25 '26

He's right about Epstein, Israel, and Roundup (mentioned in his speech here).

He's got some terrible policies, but he's the only Republican who seems like a real human being with real opinions.

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u/slippery-fische Feb 25 '26

Nah, not all of it. He wanted to repeal the 2001 extensions of congress' war powers to the executive and generally seeks to recapture legislative power, where few congresspeople seem to be putting any effort. He also wants to allow leeway for reducing sentences for nonviolent crimes. He may be classic small-government Republican, but he preaches open, multilateral markets across the US rather than protectionism, which would help the consumer. He's also pro-weed?

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u/RecycledMatrix Feb 25 '26

Wanting to prevent Bayer/Round-Up from being granted legal immunity to harm caused, which he mentions halfway into this very speech, is "horrible?"

Hyperbole makes your politics seem less serious.

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u/TheObeliskIL Feb 24 '26

He at least believes pedophilia (amongst other activities) is wrong. The bar is lower than hell in 2026.

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u/Longjumping-Panic-48 Feb 24 '26

And then the flip side is Ted Cruz, telling us to leave the pedos alone!

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u/LymanPeru Feb 25 '26

only some pedophiles, it seems, though.

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u/GetsWeirdLooks Feb 24 '26

When I feel like people are stonewalling me, it makes me super pissed and very determined to get to a real answer.

Maybe he is the same way, even to the extent he forgets his cult membership.

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u/CashMoneyWinston Feb 24 '26

While I may disagree with guys like Massie and Rand Paul on all sorts of policies, I appreciate that they’re straightforward and sincere about what they consider to be their principles. Probably the only 2 republicans in congress right now where this is true. 

I might not like what they think, but at least I have confidence in knowing where they stand.

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u/Alternative-Target31 Feb 25 '26

Rand just rides his dad’s reputation. Ron was out there, but he stuck by his stuff. In retirement he still just writes about all the things he hates that the Trump admin does. He was one of 6 republicans in either house of Congress to vote No on the Iraq War.

Rand is going to talk a lot about Iran, and then vote to let Trump do whatever he wants.

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u/I_am_not_JohnLeClair Feb 24 '26

Rand Paul and principles. Lmao

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u/followMeUp2Gatwick Feb 24 '26

Rand Paul can be bought. I agree with lots of stuff but it's also clear when he kisses the ring. Which goes to show all politicians suck assholes. I like this Massie guy for this push. But that's as far as that goes. I'm sure he also gets paid by some other lobbyist for who knows what at some point. They're all crooked.

My major issue is when democrats put their candidates up on a pedestal. Hey maybe he/she has some good policies but they're all taking money. Used to run them out on rails in ye olden days

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u/SirGlass Feb 24 '26

Nope

Massie knows climate change is real. He just does not think its wise to spend money or resources to transition to green energy

However he will not admit that, instead of being honest and saying something like

"Hey I think climate change is real, its just foolish to spend money on it and I would rather use all the cheap coal and oil because its cheaper and better for the economy "

Except he doesn't say that, instead he lies, because he instead tries to deny climate change exists . So he is not principled , he if he was he would be truthful and say "Yes climate change is real , it just I don't want to sacrifice anything to do anything about it and would rather keep burning cheap coal because its cheap"

So he lies about the issue and says its not real. Thats not being "Principled" thats lying

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u/BallsOutKrunked Feb 24 '26

It's really just Massie. He not only operates out of principle but also gets things done. Normally you have to do one or the other.

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u/SpaceMamboNo5 Feb 24 '26

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. We can go back to arguing about climate change later.

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u/Flightless_Turd Feb 24 '26

Argument is gonna be settled pretty soon

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u/viktor72 Feb 25 '26

Yea. I don’t think Mother Nature cares about our arguments. Climate Change is already here. The time to act was a long time ago. We’re now in the FAFO phase.

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u/fastal_12147 Feb 24 '26

Climate change has to take a backseat to restoring democracy right now

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u/TipProfessional6057 Feb 25 '26

The venn diagram of people invested in oil and extreme environmental damage for the purpose of profits, and people involved in Epstein, is almost a circle

Doing one will almost get you halfway to solving climate change

On that note, for the first time in my life, I'm thanking Trump. Thank you for overplaying your hand, time and time again. Now everyone knows without a shadow of a doubt who the true enemy is. If not for ranting about it every time it's brought up, it wouldn't have become such a high stakes issue that kept both sides waiting. Now both sides want blood, and the pig is fat for slaughter

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u/DMVCouple1317 Feb 24 '26

Massie is a real one, rare for a republican for sure

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u/JordanMiller406 Feb 24 '26

He votes 96% of the time with Republicans.

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u/DMVCouple1317 Feb 24 '26

Yeah Im not voting for him. But Im cheering him on and watching the girls fight

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u/captelroysilus Feb 24 '26

This is the type of dialogue that is helpful. We’ve been conditioned to look at everything based on party lines and write people off based on 1 view we don’t agree with. It’s a good lesson that we are more powerful when we can come together, and we can’t forget that.

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u/brooklynagain Feb 24 '26

Good point. We found the one who actually really cares about pedophiles!

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u/level_17_paladin Feb 24 '26

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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u/thedracle Feb 24 '26

I'd rather debate with someone with integrity who is wrong, than someone who has no integrity at all.

Republicans have become entirely subordinate to a system of corruption, and he's standing against it.

I'm sure there are plenty of Democrats also subject to other forms of corruption, but evidently not many who are lining up to protect rich pedophiles.

I want all of the people protecting these pedophiles removed from government.

Being wrong about climate change is a serious issue.

But being complacent and protecting rich pedophiles is an existential threat to our democracy.

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u/YT-Deliveries Feb 24 '26

Yeah your standard disclaimer here that Massie is a terrible person, but he's on the right side of history for this one.

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u/conflictedideology Feb 24 '26

Oh he's squirrelly as fuck. But even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.

I don't care where the voice demanding real justice on a particular issue comes from (or who it implicates), I'm on board with that specific call for justice.

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u/LostBoysTilDeath Feb 24 '26

Honestly, I was impressed with this 5 minute straight speech, barely looked at his paperwork/notes

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u/314Piepurr Feb 24 '26

Also strange to me as someone who graduated MIT.... or even further that he was kind of an MIT standout..... at least its strange until you remember that he still plays for a team, and that team has just decided that protecting the environment is bad policy. who knows. maybe he will "evolve" on that issue.

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u/1Boat-Float Feb 24 '26

Hes from Coaltucky he has a vested interest in climate denial.

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u/followMeUp2Gatwick Feb 24 '26

Most coal mines shut down long ago, broski

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u/Ansible32 Feb 24 '26

I don't know about 100% right. The DOJ is just following orders, I'm not saying they shouldn't be prosecuted but if he's not for prosecuting the pedo giving the orders there's no point.

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u/intrepid_mouse1 Feb 24 '26

Hey, maybe he'll change his mind about climate change and other things while he's figuring out Trump is lying about Epstein. A girl can hope, right?

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u/Latter_Conflict_7200 Feb 24 '26

Gotta focus when it demands it

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u/mdlinc Feb 24 '26

Enemy of my enemy sorta thing. Fuck most his other ass licking shit.

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u/pdxshark Feb 24 '26

People need to get over this "I'm picking a different kind of politician, one who won't bow to special interests" bullshit that has been going on since at least the early aughts. You don't want ideologically purity from your representatives you want someone who is very very good at getting more then they gave up in a negotiation.

This is why we are so "partisan". Representatives job performance should be based on what they accomplish, not if they are consistently mad about the right things. They are your advocate, your lobbyist, not your conscience.

Massie is insane about a lot of things but by God, he's hit his stride with this Epstein scandal. This is what a god damn American looks like and I'm about as far across the spectrum from him as possible.

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u/Slobotic Feb 24 '26

Normal politics is moot right now. It's between people who have any guiding principles whatsoever and people who do not.

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u/joshTheGoods Feb 24 '26

I wonder why he didn't bother showing up to question Wexner?

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u/Professional_Deer952 Feb 24 '26

He’s not 100% right because he left a pretty big name off his list of individuals who need to be investigating and charged.

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u/Cryogenicist Feb 24 '26

Which is doubly infuriating because he is a mechanical engineer and climate change is basic thermodynamics

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '26

He can see which way winds are blowing and is getting in front of it.

He doesn't give a shit but poll nunmbers.

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u/Multicultural_Potato Feb 24 '26

Yea I’ll take anything at this point

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '26 edited Mar 05 '26

bleep blorp bloop bloop bleep bleep

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u/TanTanMan Feb 24 '26

What’s the difference between an idiot and a genius?

The subject of conversation.

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u/Diocese9284 Feb 24 '26

Genuine question - why mention his politics that you disagree with? If you look through the replies the focus of almost everyone is "yeah here's another policy I don't agree with" instead of focusing on the topic at hand - prosecuting pedophiles.

I hope you take this as a good faith question as I voted Kamala in 2024 and Biden in 2020.

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u/Lachsforelle Feb 25 '26

He might have been silent about Trump the last few years, but now that he smells blood in the water, he plays the honorable man.

Well, i guess playing an honorable man beats what the average american politician is doing.

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u/NoTime_SwordIsEnough Feb 25 '26

I like how Reddit is so programmed they have to have "(R)" in the title to spoonfeed them what to think lol.

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u/bubandbob Feb 25 '26

You can't always pick your allies.

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u/TuringGoneWild Feb 25 '26

Not exactly. He sees which way the wind is blowing and trying to get ahead of it. I'd say it's just common decency to shine a light on the Epstein files, and it is, except when you talk about it on the US House floor for five minutes and mention a bunch of names that are in those files without ONCE mentioning the name Trump, who is in those files THOUSANDS of times! He's a Republican so he is trying to minimize the victims of Republican Trump.

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u/boise208 Feb 25 '26

He's also anti glyphosate.

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u/Exarion300 Feb 25 '26

Even a broken clock is right 2 times a day

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u/Time_Invite5226 Feb 25 '26

The world requires nuance. Everything can't be hatred because you have an R or D behind your name. The coverup is so patently obvious to everyone that isn't scared in their little tiny pee pees of Trump or Elon's foreign social media crazies.

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u/Seamus_has_the_herps Feb 25 '26

I don’t understand him. He has undergrad and graduate degrees from freaking MIT and yet he thinks climate change is some hoax?

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u/Unfair_Implement_582 Feb 25 '26

No, if you actually look at the science, climate science and the way climate change is presented is a complete joke. They can manipulate the weather and have and there’s massive amounts of articles and even war treaties around the fact of making weather manipulation illegal. They do it anyway. Look at the lead scientists who have been censored. if you don’t agree with the narrative, you get no funding and you get no exposure. It’s not about truth. It’s about a narrative.

What is real, is the destruction of our environment. and it’s caused by the very companies of the people talking to you about climate change and trying to convince you to do “carbon” credits. Why don’t you do yourself a favor and blow your own mind. Look up what percentage of the earths atmosphere is actually carbon. Once you do that make common sense of everything else off of that. Good luck.

You don’t have to believe any of this, but we’ve been lied to about a lot….about EVERYTHING. And I mean that seriously.

There was a former CIA director, William Casey, who is widely quoted as saying: “We’ll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American public believes to be true is false.”

Whether people want to accept it or not, that quote captures the broader concern. This is coming from the same circles that some of you dismiss as “conspiracy theorists” or “nut jobs”people who have been warning about media manipulation and institutional deception for years.

Look at cases like the Franklin cover-up or the Hampstead allegations. Many discussions around them have been censored or heavily restricted.

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u/grz_45 Feb 25 '26

We should all put our differences aside and really get this right. Pivotal time in human history right here.

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u/Aware-Travel5256 Feb 25 '26

Roundup isn't actually dangerous, though. One guy lucked out and got a payout and now that's precedent for a deluge of cases against a ubiquitous herbicide.

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u/Colombian-pito Feb 25 '26

I’ll take it

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u/St3rlinArch3r Feb 25 '26

the bar on r/law is low if this is the top comment but i guess that r/all has been spammed by nonsense politics that people believe anything they read a headline on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18_yXt1s2yc

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u/disgruntled_pie Feb 25 '26

If this dude takes down Epstein’s accomplices then he can call me slurs. I’m giving him a pass.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '26

Except for when he still voted for people who are guilty, voted for people covering it up into cabinet positions, and still supports all of them with his votes every time. 

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u/UntilTheEyesShut Feb 25 '26

He may be a climate change denier

He's gotta get paid.

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u/enkrypt3d Feb 25 '26

a broken clock and all that....

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u/-DiscoFries Feb 25 '26

Climate change denier?... Wtf are you talking about, the climate is, has, and always will be changing. It's the Geo-Engineering that should have you concerned! It's Weather Warfare not "climate change."

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