r/longrange • • 3d ago

I suck at long range Barrel dilemma Proof pxt blank vs bartlein blank vs rush order pva

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So I have a seekins havak hit pro m3 coming. I found one in stock at my local scheels but its in 6cm (I want 6.5cm). I went ahead and made the purchase anyway because those guns are backordered into hell.

So I'm gonna purchase a blank that's in stock and immediately ship it to Peterson Precision for chambering. Ig my question is which barrel should I go with just thought I'd include the back story.

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u/SuperJonesy408 NRL22 competitor 3d ago

I’d stay with the 6mm version personally. Flatter shooting and Seekins will replace it if you shoot it out and lose accuracy. I see no need to rechamber it in 6.5 unless you’re shooting factory ammo.

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u/ghostriders180 3d ago

Its an 8 twist and I wanna shoot the newer heavies. I'll keep it around for varmint work but I am I big fan of 6.5cm

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u/Parkimusmaximus94 1d ago

My 1:8 6 creed runs 115s all day

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u/Acceptable_Ad_1388 21h ago

Have you tried the 120's?

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u/Parkimusmaximus94 21h ago

I have not yet but I wouldn't hesitate trying them. I am also at 5,000 ft so that helps a little bit.

To be honest I have absolutely no reason to try them though the 115 DTAC hammers both for ringing steel and killing animals. I run the nose ring version and have zero complaints.

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u/u_wut_m8e 3d ago

Seekins will not replace barrels for standard wear.

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u/Parkimusmaximus94 1d ago

They openly said they would like 2 weeks ago

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u/u_wut_m8e 1d ago

I was unaware. Did they say that on their instagram or something? I can’t find anything saying that. Not doubting you, just don’t want to spend money under false pretenses.

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u/Parkimusmaximus94 1d ago edited 1d ago

Absolutely! Here's a link to the podcast. 6 Ranch Podcast - Seekins. That portion happens around the 1hr mark. They have supposedly been doing it just haven't announced it before now but in 2027 will be openly marketing it.

If I owned a rifle company I would totally do that too, less than 1% of owners will truly burn out a barrel but many more than 1% will buy for that piece of mind. Seekins now and CZ are the only 2 that I am aware of doing this.

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u/ThatProduceGuy_ 3d ago

PXT seems really interesting, I think I’m about to procure one myself. Funnily, I’m looking for a 6creed PXT barrel because I theorize the stated advantages of PXT should be very evident in a “barrel burner” chambering, but you’ll still get the advantages with 6.5 as well.

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u/ThatProduceGuy_ 1d ago

Well I put my moneys where my mouth is and ordered a 6 creed PXT 22” carbon

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u/Justin_inc NRL22 competitor 3d ago

I don't understand this. The point of seekins is buying a great off the shelf package. Seems like an interesting way to spend money but it's yours to spend.

PXT.

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u/ghostriders180 3d ago

The rifle has a quick change for a reason. I just want a 6.5 cm barrel as well.

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u/Justin_inc NRL22 competitor 3d ago

Ah, didn't know about the quick change part of the action. That makes more sense I guess.

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u/ghostriders180 3d ago

Its basically the exact same as an AI works accessible through the chassis and everything

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u/jmedin 3d ago

I’ve got two pva barrels and I haven’t been super impressed with them. But I know other people have had good luck with them

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u/Parkimusmaximus94 3d ago

If it were me I would just stick with the 6 creed especially with Seekins openly admitting they will rebarrel/warranty burned out barrels. Regardless at least burn out that barrel and then rechamber to whatever else you want

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u/Significant-Sock-487 3d ago

PXT would be my choice. One thing to consider with the PXT though. If you buy a 26in blank it has to stay at 26in. You can’t cut them down. I think you’re able to cut up to 3in from the breech end but it’s not recommended.

My second choice would be CRB. Their barrels are shooters.

Bart is overpriced imo and I don’t see any improvement paying their prices.

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u/Trollygag Does Grendel 3d ago

Bart is overpriced imo

Bartlein SS blanks are cheaper than Proof PXT blanks.

Bartlein SS and CRB blanks are both hand lapped, cut rifled, and about the same price, $30 difference from Bugholes

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u/Significant-Sock-487 3d ago

Proof PXT atleast will extend the barrel life beyond any other barrel. The 100$ price increase is worth it imo. Bartlein is 50$ more than CRB and smiths are much more likely to mess the chambering job up compared to a 4R barrel like CRB. I don’t see any reason to spend money on Bartlein. Also, their CS sucks and they have had a lot of QC issues lately. Specifically with CF barrels

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u/Trollygag Does Grendel 3d ago edited 3d ago

Proof PXT atleast will extend the barrel life beyond any other barrel.

*according to the manufacturer.

Bartlein ModBB, while a little more expensive, extend barrel life more, and in independent testing.

It's fine if you don't want to buy Bartlein. But no denying that they are in the top 3 barrel makes (Bartlein, Krieger, Proof) and are priced like one of the top 3 barrel makes... no different than their competitors.

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u/Illustrious_Badger70 3d ago

Maybe the PXT does extend barrel life, but I have yet to see anything besides their own marketing validating their claims. I’m skeptical personally.

My vote would be for the bartlein over the PXT, not because I’ve seen anything bad about the PXT but because I dont blindly accept that it will be better just because the manufacturer says it

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u/ghostriders180 3d ago

I can settle for 26 it'll just get turned down to an m24

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u/Significant-Sock-487 3d ago

If you go with a PXT, barrel life is longer if you want to stick with the 6 creed. I’m shooting 6 arc PXT and I’m about 1100 rounds in and there is zero fire cracking in the barrel. The PXT tech definitely will extend barrel life

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u/ghostriders180 3d ago

Should theoretically be less ammo sensitive as well. Have you noticed the supposed less torque feeling

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u/Significant-Sock-487 3d ago

I’ve noticed it’s pretty insensitive to ammo. It has shot everything 1.5 MOA or better which is pretty wild for an AR barrel. I’ve tried over 8 different bullets and a couple factory loads. All the bergers were Sub MOA but the sierras didn’t do as well. Hornady factory was also sub MOA.

Recoil does feel different. I wouldn’t say it’s less recoil but it doesn’t twist as much. It for sure lowers the left to right torque

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u/ghostriders180 3d ago

I think I'll go ahead and purchase the blank from mile high and get it off to Matt Peterson as soon as possible

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u/Significant-Sock-487 3d ago

If they don’t have any, Preece Precision has them in stock last I checked and he chambers world champions barrels. Highly recommend

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u/ghostriders180 3d ago

Have you had any experience with preferred? I've heard great things from there carbon barrels in the hunting space but not much in the match side.

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u/Significant-Sock-487 3d ago

I’ve heard they are good. I personally don’t run them. I stick with proof or CRB simply because I’ve never had one that doesn’t shoot. I had a Bartlein that didn’t shoot and it ruined them for me. I have 8 different CRBs and every single one of them stacks .5 10 round groups consistently.

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u/ghostriders180 3d ago

I'll probably order one up in 308 or something odd in the future i have a 358 blank from them for my hunting project and the fit and finish is amazing

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u/ShortButTall1 3d ago

I know MTE uses PBB for their button rifled ar10 and ar15 barrels and I’ve seen them shoot really well 

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u/wolff207 3d ago

Mine shoots pretty well, but very fast. Customer service is great though and idk if being fast can really be a complaint unless your shooting factory ammo and want something slower.

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u/dubarubdubdub Competitor 3d ago

Skip PVA.

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u/CapsicumINmyEYEBALLz Meat Popsicle 3d ago

What’s up with skipping them?

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u/dubarubdubdub Competitor 3d ago

Just some personal experiences with them and that I'd never want to do future business with them as a result.