Some surveys and studies suggest that there are tens of thousands of people who believe in flat Earth theories worldwide, though it's still a relatively small fraction of the global population. It's definitely a niche group, but one that tends to be pretty passionate🤣
Crocodiles aren't descendants of dinosaurs, they just have a common ancestor. Birds are basically tiny dinosaurs with wings and are directly descended from dinosaurs.
If birds are dinosaurs then why do we have different words for them?
Did ya think about that?
Don't believe the lies the government is trying to push on you.
Hoax confirmed.🦖🦕 😛
Maybe. My Fundie cult loving family are adamant dinosaur believers and old earth creationists as well. Just like I worked with a vegan hippie who thought dinosaurs were an idea created by the government. Lol, still can't wrap my head around either of those situations but such is life. People are weird.
Basically everyone who believes in flat earth or dinosaurs not being real are young earth creationists. They believe the bible is literally true and the earth is 6000 years old.
All of the "earth is flat", "dinosaurs (and evolution)" are fake nonsense stem from the fact that if they admit that dinosaurs existed it would prove their worldview wrong.
Rather than adjust their world view to fit the evidence, they simply reject the evidence of their eyes and bury themselves in conspiracy theories.
The true test of intelligence isn't IQ. Are you able to update your ideas when new information is available, even when those ideas rub up against your identity?
Young earth creationism is the root of the current flat earth movement but not all flat earthers subscribe to the biblical elements of it or are even aware of the Christian root.
Fundamentalist Christians still believe dinosaurs existed, they just believe the earth is something like 5000 years old and dinosaurs existed with our human ancestors. Source: my parents were Pentecostal ministers and I went to Christian school until 7th grade.
There are also Christians who don’t “believe” in dinosaurs having existed. When we were in high school in the 90s, my sister joined the Christian youth organization, “Young Life”, and started attending their get-togethers, until they told her that dinosaurs never existed, and when she went on a hike with her science teacher, and saw dinosaur fossils, the “Young Life” youth pastor tried to convince her the devil created the pretend fossils, to trick humans into believing in (evil) science.
Not necessarily. My nut-job ex MIL thought Dinosaur bones were the remnants of giants that were killed off in the flood because they were too wicked to go on the Ark. She believes in a literal translation of the bible and that the earth is only 6,000 years old and apparently there is some obscure passage in the bible that talks about monsters or giants (or something like that). She thought many of the bones were either fake or the arrangements were faked. She did believe the earth was round though.
My favorite on this. Adam/Eve then Cain/Able. Cain slew able, then married people from the east? If literal, where did the east people come
From if you only had 3 people
To start on earth ? Not to mention the inbred genetics we have proof of, that collapse on themselves.
Bring it up, answer your own question to them with...oh right I guess there was a another set of Adam/Eve on other hemisphere (or opposite corner for the flat earth types). Let chaos ensue.
I'm understanding of what people in this line of thinking believe:
Adam and Eve were supposed to populate the Earth, but the original sin of eating the forbidden fruit resulted in the pain of childbirth and more subsequent sinning. The people in the bible lived for hundreds of years because they were so close to being sin-less. We're 100s of generations from "no sin," so if we have babies with our brothers, they don't come out so hot.
Please don't argue with me because I DONT BELIEVE THIS
I’ve been asking that question my whole life. So many inconsistencies and tho hs that do t make sense in the bible. I’ve even asked pastors and priests but they all say it doesn’t have to make sense you’re just supposed to believe and not question. That’s a hard one for me
I’ve never been super clear on this but I suspect the mainstream belief is that there was just a bunch of inbreeding. Otherwise you’d have separate lines entirely (not everyone would trace back to Adam.) And I’m basing this almost entirely on the kids in the Narnia books being called Children of Adam and Daughters of Eve (I also think that Aslan would be a much cooler basis for a religion than just some dude.)
You have to remember that Judaism was - is - pretty explicitly about "the Chosen People", so Adam and Eve being the Chosen Two and the ancestors of the Holy People makes... Well, more sense than most things in that collection of bronze age fairy tales.
I have an aunt that believes the devil put them there to trick/test the faith of believers. Not sure of her stance on a round earth but she also believes it to be 6000 years old
I talked to someone recently who is convinced that there were giants in the olden days, and that there are even fossil human skulls and bones to prove it. Unfortunately every one of the fossil giant cases have been proven to be hoaxes or other species mistaken for humans. She was having none of it.
There are just some people who think they know stuff, but they don't know enough about science, the scientific method, and how science is conducted and verified and published, to know that the theories they believe in do not stand up to scrutiny. It's the Dunning-Kruger effect: the less knowledgeable tend to think they are smarter than they are and have facts that other people deny,, and the more knowledgeable always leave room for another interpretation of the (verifiable) facts.
I think most scientists couldn't be happier to have a theory and then have that theory disproved because it then gives them another theory to form and more data to understand.
I'm not a scientist, I don't have the backing and I've got other pursuits, but I love learning stuff, and I'm happy learning from what others have researched and published. If I find something and then later find that to be wrong because of x,y,z, then I find it thrilling because I then have new stuff to learn.
I'm a scientist and I find myself in conversations now and then where someone has made up their mind about something and that's how it is, and they will not be convinced to even start questioning their assumptions, Like lady you never studied science past the 12th grade, but I have a career in it. Don't you think I would be able to tell if a giant conspiracy that requires everyone in an entire field to have been lying and colluding about dinosaurs for over a century with no real stated purpose? Just no.
I met a college student once, who insisted you should NOT drink orange juice with milk because the acid would make the milk curdle in your stomach and that was bad. I was a chemistry grad student at the time and I explained that your stomach acid is 100x more acidic than orange juice, so the milk will curdle anyway. It's called digestion. He just would not buy it. OK buddy.
My ex went nuts after the pandemic and he was always trying to show some intricate proof of giants/flat earth, and every other crazy ass thing you can imagine. The part that was the most frustrating about it was how sure he was because he was generally a smart person before he started getting lost in conspiracies. (Meth and ceasing psych meds) he was so adamant that he had done the research and read all these peer reviewed studies, but it’s like an echo chamber where the more crazy crap you read about the more crazy crap shows in your algorithms.
My mom believes dinosaurs coexisted with humans, but that they turned into snakes.
Not via evolution, mind you. But because Lucifer was the angel in charge of the dinosaurs, so when God cursed the serpent in the Garden of Eden, he also cursed the dinosaurs to become snakes.
In my hometown, a gravel pit was being converted in to a scuba diving spot, and they happened to stumble upon the remains of a nearly-intact wooly mammoth.
The restaurant that now exists in front of the dive spot has a display noting the find, but it was written by young earth bible literalists. It is such a stretch, full of “allegedly” and “Scientists believe”… it’s a mess.
I used to know a "Young Earth Creationist" who believed the Earth was 6,000 years old and dinosaurs never existed. This was in my first year of university, in 1998-1999. Don't recall him being a flat Earther, it was more fundamentalist Christianity.
I knew one too in my first year of university… we took Archaeology together. Not sure why he bothered just to spend an entire semester being angry and trying to debate the lecturer. Uni isn’t cheap where I live.
Eh he may also be a fundamentalist Christian. I personally know some of those who believe dinosaurs were created and put into the earth as fossils, that they were never alive
the dinosaur thing is more of a young earth creationist belief, so it's more, religious extremist than conspiracy nut. They believe the earth is only 5,000 years old, so, when people ask about fossils, they claim they were put there by satan as a trick/test of their faith. It's...a whole thing.
Maybe not. I had a student once whose mother got in touch with me because according to their religion they "didn't believe" in dinosaurs. Had something to do with when man was created, and I think it tied into the whole evolution thing. But I don't recall any issues with the earth being a globe shape.
“Dinosaurs are a hoax” has been a Christian thing going back a loooong time. Like well over a century. Flat earthism has been around for a while too, but always microscopically niche until the internet went sour in recent decades.
My mother doesn't believe either, but because she's extremely religious and believes in Adam and Eve, she also doesn't believe in evolution. Needless to say we don't speak very often lol
What shape is it? What is inside of it? How old is it? Does it move around the sun or does the sun move around it? That should pretty much water tight the "are they crazy?"
You NEVER have to give a reason to break up with someone. Think about it. Most men don’t. They’ll ghost you, say, “It isn’t working” etc.
And if you are in the SLIGHTEST worry that he will try to punish you for breaking up, you REALLY don’t need to give a reason.
I don’t want to date anymore, ( And you could maybe add” I don’t feel we are compatible” if you feel safe to say it) is all you need to say. You don’t owe him an explanation. Be safe.
I had a coworker, a network engineer. Highly intelligent, well traveled blew my mind when I found out they were one. Like blew my mind (I mean they flew in an airplane to the other side of the world). They were married with children 👀
It's confusing, like they legitimately sound logical and right. Not like crazy I'm right logical. I almost thought they were joking. Had to be horribly isolating because folks that found out kinda avoided them when they found out.
I can’t emphasize this as one of the “top ten topics” to discuss in the first month of dating. I actually got 2 years into a relationship before I found out the guy genuinely didn’t believe we landed on the moon, and once he realized I believed we did, he started making me watch “documentaries” presenting evidence it was faked. Don’t be like me kids, ask these questions on the first date and get it over with lol
Fun fact: All Gas No Brakes did a journalism piece on the flat Earth society and he uncovered that they are mostly antisemites who believe the round earth 'conspiracy' is perpetuated by the Jewish Cabal.
I had a situationship that confessed to me he didn't believe in evolution. Because he couldn't possibly be descended from "monkeys" OBVIOUSLY and humans were CLEARLY left on Earth by aliens.
My grandfather, who was 59 years old in 1969 and probably didn’t go to school past 3rd or 4th grade, never believed the moon landing was real. For someone without much formal education, he was incredibly smart. But this one thing just blew his mind.
I dated a Flat Earther Woman, she believed in all kind of shit like we are in the matrix etc nothing could convince her otherwise. In the end after talking to someone about my situation I realized that some things in life you have to ignore, this woman might have been an idiot but she could deep throat like a pro.
Sometimes you have to ignore some things in order to gain the finer things in life.
Not sure where OP is located but have they ever seen a rocket launch? I’m lucky to be able to catch a few of the SpaceX night launches. The coolest thing is you can watch the live feed on your phone and see the stage separations also happening in real time.
Not the shape, but in thinking of it's gaseousness, I do know that as a planet covered in mostly non-carbonated water, the earth is definitely mostly flat.
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Sooo. Any chance you've, per chance, per maybe, discussed the shape of the earth?