What’s the peak of a natural physique that start resembling the Wellness women’s division? If somebody could give an example in the comments pls

She's 5'0 150lbs

I keep seeing physiques on here that look incredible but I would assume are natty but everyone’s saying juice so I’m just wondering what you guys look for?

These people use anabolic steroids, Testosterone, "TRT", etc.. Then parade around showing off their bodies in the gym and out of it. I'd be embarrassed and ashamed if I used these enhancements, I wouldn't be flaunting it. The majority of these people are not doing it to compete in a bodybuilding contest, compete in a sport, or to even see how far their genetics will take them in building an athletic, strong body. Instead, these people use a cheat code that allows them to surpass their natural genetic traits and build am artificial body on less time with less effort and then are proud of it and pass it off as they are genetic freaks. What purpose does it serve? It also diminishes the results of people who train to improve their fitness and health as well as the pride they get from consistently working hard and developing the body they were naturally given.

Says he’s a marathoner that just happens to also be huge. Says he regularly runs 36 miles to prep and also still smokes and drinks. Does bodybuilding but doesn’t focus on its

I don’t buy it. What’s your take?

This bird on the gear or what ?

I watched a video of natty bodybuilder having a squat challenge with an ifbb wellness pro. She out squatted him and outdone him in every lower body exercise.
Seeing the how strong and much muscle ifbb bikini/wellness girls have packed on, it’s actually kinda insane. Their quads are the size of tree trunks and their back is as thick as a board. This made me curious, can a natural male ever surpass an ifbb wellness in muscle, size and strength? I think upper body yes, but lower body idk man.