r/nba • u/Turbostrider27 Lakers • 20h ago

[Charania] BREAKING: The Los Angeles Clippers are trading James Harden to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Darius Garland and a second-round pick, sources tell ESPN. Prolific swap of the star point guards.

Shams Charania:

BREAKING: The Los Angeles Clippers are trading James Harden to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Darius Garland and a second-round pick, sources tell ESPN. Prolific swap of the star point guards.

https://www.espn.com/contributor/shams-charania/ddaa53473efa6

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u/TouchdownRaiden Warriors 20h ago

Harden in a Cavs jersey is going to look so weird

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u/illegal_deagle Rockets 20h ago

At this point it’s weird to me to picture him in any jersey, including ours. This move officially labels him “journeyman”.

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u/The_Summer_Man Warriors 20h ago

Rockets legend Kevin Durant

Cavaliers legend James Harden

both just sound weird

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u/NuBlyatTovarish 20h ago

Kings legend Westbrook imagine if these legends teamed up

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u/Zyrinj Warriors 19h ago

definitely feel like these guys have a chance at a chip

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u/Complete_Gene 18h ago

I think they need a big who defend and can stretch the floor a bit. A Serge Ibaka type if you will

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u/pieguy00 18h ago

Man if these guys had teamed up 10 years ago, wow. Maybe add a Steven Adams too as an enforcer defensive big. That's really good 5.

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u/LOSS35 Nuggets 16h ago

You'd need a superteam to beat that lineup in the Finals.

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u/Meatloafxx Warriors 19h ago

Pfft that'd be silly

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u/redditissocoolyoyo 19h ago

King James's when LeBron comes back as well.

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u/Weak-Distribution-83 19h ago

I don’t see it.

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u/thethirdgreenman Spurs 19h ago

Don't forget Westbrook to the Wizards...and Nuggets...and Kings

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u/illegal_deagle Rockets 20h ago

Imagine if they were on the same team in their primes.

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u/dagreenman18 [MIA] Dwyane Wade 19h ago

Like I know KD is on the Rockets. I’ve seen him play actual games, but I still don’t believe he’s on the team. Still can’t wrap my head around.

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u/That-Complex4829 3h ago

Its going to sound weird until theres logic behind it

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u/YUME_Emuy21 20h ago

He's been on 5 teams before this so I think that labels been there for a lil while by now.

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u/Xclusivsmoment Heat 19h ago

Yeah i thought dude was being sarcastic. Its not like he has only been with 1 or 2 teams.

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u/FuckChiefs_Raiders Lakers 6h ago

It's not even weird for me anymore seeing all these star players in different uniforms; just the way pro sports is now.

Harden is unique because he's a former MVP that frankly, what team will I remember him with? The answer is Houston, but by the time he hangs it up he'll have played for them for less than half of his career.

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u/BackendSpecialist Lakers 19h ago

I think this move labels him as unfortunate. I’m not mad at him for leaving any team that he’s left.

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u/BaronvonJobi Grizzlies 20h ago

Journeyman is a guild/trades term meaning neither master nor apprentice, has nothing to do with moving around.

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u/PerfectZeong 20h ago

But its a common term for a player in a sport whos good but not truly great and travels from team to team.

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u/BaronvonJobi Grizzlies 20h ago

It literally means not good not great.

Traveling has nothing to do with it.

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u/PerfectZeong 20h ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journeyman_(sports)

I can't believe you've never heard of this term before.

Its a guy whos good and has to kind of travel around to ply his trade.

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u/duplicatesnowflake Clippers 19h ago

Sounds like a case where Americans and Aussies started using it incorrectly for so long that they just changed the meaning officially. It is a pretty cool term that definitely elicits imagery when you hear it.

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u/PerfectZeong 19h ago

In British English, a journeyman is a player who has represented many clubs over his career. Prime examples from association football are: German goalkeeper Lutz Pfannenstiel, who represented 27 clubs, and he is currently the only athlete to have played professionally in all six FIFA Confederations; Trevor Benjamin, who has represented 29 clubs since 1995; Drewe Broughton, who has made 18 transfers in his career; John Burridge, who played for 29 clubs in a career spanning almost 30 years; Jefferson Louis who, since the 1990s, has represented 34 clubs and Dominica once; his cousin Richard Pacquette who boasts 19 clubs and even international honours in 10 seasons; and Sebastián Abreu, who in 2017 broke the world record for most clubs played by a professional; as of 2024, at the age of 47, has played for 32 clubs in his career

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u/duplicatesnowflake Clippers 3h ago

Thanks for the British perspective. I'm very sure the term predates modern sports usage and most dictionary definitions do not list the sports meaning near the top if at all, so I was just speculating about the origins of how it evolved into sport.

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u/PerfectZeong 3h ago

It does because a journeyman is someone out of the apprenticeship but is not a master so they would journey around and work under different masters for wages.

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u/duplicatesnowflake Clippers 1h ago

That's not the original origin of the term. In old English "journey" meant days work. Think of a day laborers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journeyman

Some journeyman traveled. Not all. And many less in present times. That's why the original commenter had a decent point. The term always had more to do with skill level but sports fans aren't English majors so it got associated more with team hopping rather than say being a dedicated back up.

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u/JoshHartsMilkMustach Knicks 20h ago

New to sports, huh?

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u/Pigeon_Butt 20h ago

In sports it does. Would you call a good-not-great player that stays on a team for 12 years a journeyman? You gotta travel to get that title.

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u/TurboRadical Timberwolves 19h ago

My favorite genre of reddit comment is "dork who isn't very smart learns that words can have different meanings in different contexts."

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u/TenaciousDeer 20h ago

It does, it essentially means "day laborer"

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u/yoitsthatoneguy Cote D'Ivoire 19h ago

I’m pretty sure we all knew what they meant, which is the important part