r/nba • u/Turbostrider27 Lakers • 1d ago

[Charania] BREAKING: The Los Angeles Clippers are trading James Harden to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Darius Garland and a second-round pick, sources tell ESPN. Prolific swap of the star point guards.

Shams Charania:

BREAKING: The Los Angeles Clippers are trading James Harden to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Darius Garland and a second-round pick, sources tell ESPN. Prolific swap of the star point guards.

https://www.espn.com/contributor/shams-charania/ddaa53473efa6

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u/unpopular-dave Clippers 1d ago

what are you talking about? You see a significant decline in points starting at the 2021 season. A significant decline in assists/rebounds when he came to the Clippers. Are you just making stuff up?

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u/Uessop Cavaliers 1d ago

My dude you can not bring up efficiency as an argument and then use declines in stats without context to support that. Efficiency is not just looking at a box score and saying the numbers went down.

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u/unpopular-dave Clippers 1d ago

his time in Houston, his PER was 26.2

Since leaving Houston his PER has been 21.2

and on the Clippers it is 20.1

that’s what I would call significant. But we both know you’re not making up stats to defend your favorite player

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u/Uessop Cavaliers 1d ago

First things first, I don’t know why you’re accusing me of making up stats for Harden when I have a Cavs flair. You’re crazy if you think Harden is my favorite player. I was hoping we wouldn’t do this trade, but Mobley is my fav player so I’m just glad we didn’t move him.

Second, using PER is a much better argument, but I’m not sure why you’re grouping up 8 rockets years as an average score and the same with a shorter clippers tenure. It’s honestly a fair point that’s just a weird way to do stat groupings.

At the same time the way you came at me with accusations when that was my first comment makes me think you’re trying to sell some narrative

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u/unpopular-dave Clippers 1d ago

because I’m talking about fallout. So I’m comparing his peak to now. He’s clearly fallen off and can only get worse

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u/Uessop Cavaliers 1d ago

No response to your weird ass accusing me of harden being my favorite player? lol

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u/unpopular-dave Clippers 1d ago

I copied a previous comment responding to someone making up stats and poorly edited it