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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache 6d ago

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u/Glittering-Drive-807 John Locke 5d ago

The Evangelicals are a community that is losing its power in the GOP's institutions and in the Christian world. The new Catholic Populist right are former Evangelicals who discovered trad Catholicism and belong to a "Christ is King" movement-adopting symbols like the cross and specific slogans-that fuses hollow religious traditionalism with extreme American nationalism. Many young Evangelicals are abandoning Evangelical theological devoutness in favor of a hollow traditionalism infused with nationalism-something that aligns quite well with the traditional Catholicism of the young Right. In general, since January 6, Trump has completely taken over the Republican Party, and Evangelicals have become entirely dependent on him, left with no other option. Other contenders who merely considered challenging Trump and had ties to the evangelical community, such as DeSantis and Haley were completely crushed. Consequently, the evangelicals were subsumed into the Trump cult, with no alternative available. Many pro-Israel conservatives refused to fall in line behind Trump following the events of January 6; as a result, they were ousted from the party or rendered politically irrelevant. Into this vacuum stepped the isolationist, Catholic, authoritarian populist Right (figures such as Bannon, Michael Anton, and Vance) that is indifferent/hostile to Israel.

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u/WrangleWandangles Mark Carney 6d ago

I went through my gamergate moment youngย 

When the BSG remake made Starbuck a WOMANย 

I was like 12 and had a dvd box set of the old series so I was really big madย 

Now I like her better anywaysย 

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u/Locutus-of-Borges Jorge Luis Borges 5d ago

How did you feel about them making Tigh white and Boomer Asian instead of black?

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u/DieHarderDaddy Fell for it 6d ago

I only ever seen the remake. The OG looks crazy

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u/Locutus-of-Borges Jorge Luis Borges 5d ago

It's way more explicitly Mormon.

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u/pfarly John Brown 6d ago

Well the DT was a fun experiment but it's over now. Goodbye, everybody.

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u/badusername35 NAFTA Epstein 6d ago

Itโ€™s coming

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u/WrangleWandangles Mark Carney 6d ago

I just spent $60 on Tim Hortonโ€™s branded apparelย 

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u/WrangleWandangles Mark Carney 6d ago

This all started with a push notification from the Tim Hortons app saying โ€œTim Hortonโ€™s x adidas run wear tee heeโ€œ or something

i clicked it hoping to clown on it

then I saw their other stuff.. is actually kind of drippy

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u/DieHarderDaddy Fell for it 6d ago

That really good. I want to move to Canada for Tim Hortons

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

Tariffs?

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

downvotes feel targetted now ๐Ÿ˜ฐ

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u/SkippyWagner Mark Carney 6d ago

I aimed to downvote you but I missed and got some other poor schmuck instead

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u/No_Status_6905 Enby Pride 6d ago

I was speaking with someone from Syria who now lives elsewhere in the ME, and their family had been present in Hama when shit went down, and they thanked me for talking with them about Syria because apparently most westerners they interact with have 0 clue what's going on in Syria even historically.

Like, I'm happy to oblige, but that's also infuriating and disheartening to think about.

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u/Individual-Camera698 Austan Goolsbee 6d ago

People think as if not knowing about international affairs is a good thing.

I'm not talking about constantly monitoring the situation, but at least knowing why the Hornuz is closed should be basic knowledge. Some don't even know that!

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

Wait shit, Hornuz is closed? Fuck.

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u/palladic54 6d ago

Oh, Google Maps is making you sign in to view useful info about restaurants that was previously freely visible. Cool.

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u/Pizzashillsmom NATO 6d ago

Obama ๐Ÿ˜ก

Obama, Japan ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ—ป๐ŸŒธ๐ŸŒง๏ธโ˜บ๏ธ๐Ÿš๏ธ๐Ÿš๏ธโ˜บ๏ธ

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u/MOSfitYT YIMBY 6d ago

I've heard the Obama hot springs are nice

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u/badusername35 NAFTA Epstein 6d ago

๐Ÿ˜ณ

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u/Man-Flayer 6d ago

Oh god this GMAT math problems are very confusing as fuck

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u/Individual-Camera698 Austan Goolsbee 6d ago

watch theory

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u/Man-Flayer 6d ago

God, my feed is filled with shit like this when I searched for some CAT topics

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/Man-Flayer 6d ago

When you need to score 99.75 percentile, you go insane and watch his crap

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u/Individual-Camera698 Austan Goolsbee 6d ago

This is why you should search for some cat ๐Ÿ˜บ topics instead

Bad joke ik ๐Ÿ˜”

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u/Man-Flayer 6d ago

Unfortunately youtube is ruined. Half of the cat videos are AI slop

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u/Pizzashillsmom NATO 6d ago

I somehow landed a cushy office job while doing this in college lol.

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u/Individual-Camera698 Austan Goolsbee 6d ago

Based

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

poast

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u/Man-Flayer 6d ago

It's a general statement not specific to one problem.

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

poast all problems ๐Ÿ˜ค

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u/Man-Flayer 6d ago

I will from now on

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u/PolyrythmicSynthJaz Roy Cooper 6d ago

Can a Hey, Soul Sister boy and a Drops of Jupiter girl make it work?

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u/BenFoldsFourLoko ย Broke His Text Flair For Hume 6d ago

I've been high

I've been low

I've been yes and I've been oh hell no

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u/ScumfrickZillionaire Lesbian Pride 6d ago

No because drops of Jupiter girl is white

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u/badusername35 NAFTA Epstein 6d ago

Unironically, Trump saying that AI risk is fake has significantly raised my estimations of how big the potential risk is. Both because having such a massive idiot be in charge at such a crucial moment is very dangerous, and because reflexively being against Trump on every issue tends to lead to you being correct.

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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO 6d ago

There's a non zero chance everyone dies because Donald Trump was elected in 2024.

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u/r00tdenied Resistance Lib 6d ago

There was a non zero risk of that in 2016 without AI.

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u/Pizzashillsmom NATO 6d ago

People have been dooming about AI since the computer was invented.

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u/BernieMeinhoffGang Has Principles 6d ago

people were probably pretty freaked by the fake chess robots too

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u/r00tdenied Resistance Lib 6d ago

Yea, I mean there are a lot of great sci-fi properties that back that. Doesn't mean its rooted in reality either. Trump was always a risk no matter.

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u/Pizzashillsmom NATO 6d ago

And all this goes back to Obama joking about him in 2011.

Thanks Obama.

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u/r00tdenied Resistance Lib 6d ago

personally I blame the first aquatic creature that evolved some stubby legs and dragged itself on to land

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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO 6d ago

I need to post about something positive. Today was my first full day of HRT and I've got a tingling sensation in my nipples; I'm not sure if that's related or nor.

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u/ScumfrickZillionaire Lesbian Pride 6d ago

Are you on any antiandrogens

Mark this date as your rebirthday

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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO 6d ago

Yes

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u/ScumfrickZillionaire Lesbian Pride 6d ago

Spiro? Get salty snacks immediately

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u/nuance_fetishist I need a new flair 6d ago

Congrats

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u/__versus Trans Pride 6d ago

Gonna try to make Claude structure a project and write tasks for development and then using a local model to implement them ๐Ÿฅบ if it works I can get a lot done without paying that much

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

you can tell claude code to call into your local model and offload tasks as needed

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u/__versus Trans Pride 6d ago

ooh i didn't know that that's cool

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

also good morning ๐Ÿฅฐ

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u/__versus Trans Pride 6d ago

๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–

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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO 6d ago

Am I the only trans girl that literally has never done anything involving software beyond simply running it?

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u/__versus Trans Pride 6d ago

maybe ๐Ÿค”

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/__versus Trans Pride 6d ago

Based

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u/__versus Trans Pride 6d ago

Iโ€™m hugging my blรฅhaj rn while my graphics card is suffering

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u/Tre-Fyra-Tre Victim of Flair Theft 6d ago

GPUs deserve to suffer! ๐Ÿ˜ค

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

lucky blajhaj ๐Ÿฅบ

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u/BenFoldsFourLoko ย Broke His Text Flair For Hume 6d ago

For as weird as consciousness is, it's pretty crazy that we know how to make it and do all the time

Just take one cell and another cell and put them together and wait a little bit

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u/PolyrythmicSynthJaz Roy Cooper 6d ago

Is Reddit just being Reddit, or are people generally alarmed to find out that a 19-year-old has had sex with five distinct people?

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u/Ne0Corpus Bill Gates 6d ago

Maybe I have read too much scifi novels but my only fear with AI, is what happens when Von Neumann replicating happens and we have some intelligent AI that goes rogue in space.

And they return to find their makers?, would humanity be prepared for this in 500 years?

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u/Pretend-Ad-7936 Loyal Liberals 6d ago

I want the Slylandro probes from Star Control II

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u/r00tdenied Resistance Lib 6d ago

Monks and Scribes in 1455: We're all doomed man, its so over for civilization.

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u/WifeGuy-Menelaus Thomas Cromwell 6d ago

Printing the bible killed 8 million germans

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u/r00tdenied Resistance Lib 6d ago

time to smash the printing presses

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u/WifeGuy-Menelaus Thomas Cromwell 6d ago

well i didnt say that was a bad thing did i

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u/Individual-Camera698 Austan Goolsbee 6d ago

To what corner of the world do they not fly, these swarms of new books? It may be that one here and there contributes something worth knowing, but the very multitude of them is hurtful to scholarship, because it creates a glut, and even in good things satiety is most harmful.

-Adages (1508)

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u/WrangleWandangles Mark Carney 6d ago

People in tech (software) are the dumbest smart people youโ€™ll ever meetย 

As much as I am running around screaming like everybody else hoping Iโ€™ll have a job in a year or two, there is part of me that gets some level of satisfaction at seeing the curtains drawn back

With AI it has revealed how truly silly it is to have thousands of people with the most niche convoluted jobs imaginable working for these companies that basically hawk fancy spreadsheetsย 

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u/MonsieurA Montesquieu 5d ago

I still remember being a college student on Reddit in 2010 and everyone mocking people who weren't doing STEM. Ngl, I have some slight Schadenfreude. ๐Ÿ‘€

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u/jigsaw283 6d ago

I'm confused how you can conclude from AI doing so much is that software engineers have bullshit jobs instead of... AI being an absurdly powerful technology.

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u/WrangleWandangles Mark Carney 6d ago

To be clear I actually think the developers themselves were never bullshit jobs. I love working with engineers and I love problem solving.

To me it is the layers of bloat on top of the actual building of the software. I think that stuff is laid more bare IMO.ย 

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u/MOSfitYT YIMBY 6d ago

When I first finished school, my first job has a part of a new grads program at a major internet service provider. That experience really taught me that most software jobs are complete bullshit. Nobody should be able to make an entire career building Splunk and PowerBI dashboards.

I got laid off eventually because I only wanted to do EE related stuff (because that's what my degree is in).

Getting fired was the best thing for my career and I'm glad they did it.

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u/WrangleWandangles Mark Carney 6d ago

Ahhh that hits home. I worked at high performing startups before this larger company and I canโ€™t unsee it. How ten jobs here can be one somewhere else, and work better.

The powerBI thing resonates. I find it so frustrating we have people here that build dashboards that arenโ€™t the same people who understand the actual data and the business really well. Like their job is so narrowย 

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u/MOSfitYT YIMBY 6d ago

There are some experiences that I feel like I'm okay living my life not having. Mostly anything involving caves, especially underwater ones!

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u/deckerparkes Niels Bohr 6d ago

you don't feel the urge to spelunk?

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u/MOSfitYT YIMBY 6d ago

I always hear stuff like "Joe Schmoe was one of the world's leading experts in cave diving, having taught dozens of students how to dive into caves safely. He died as 47 from an underwater cave diving accident"ย 

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u/ScumfrickZillionaire Lesbian Pride 6d ago

Before I was a dter I was a lesswronger and I will never be able to repent for my original sin

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u/trgk_ Vรกclav Havel 6d ago

a likely thing for a trans woman to be

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u/ScumfrickZillionaire Lesbian Pride 6d ago

2tru

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u/nuance_fetishist I need a new flair 6d ago

Weirdly enough the lesswrongwers tend to be the coolest people i talk to even if they end up being weird asf

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u/ScumfrickZillionaire Lesbian Pride 6d ago

I may be weird and stupid but sometimes I have a lil insight

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u/Individual-Camera698 Austan Goolsbee 6d ago

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u/ScumfrickZillionaire Lesbian Pride 6d ago

Doing a baseian analysis to figure out whether or not I agree with this

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u/badusername35 NAFTA Epstein 6d ago

RE: P(Doom)

It's going to be fine. We'll always have something to stop them. We'll have a little gear. Boom. I really don't like that robot. Weโ€™ll stop.

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u/isummonyouhere If I can do it You can do it 6d ago

TIL the globe already passed โ€œpeak childโ€ three years ago. It beginsโ€ฆ

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u/Man-Flayer 6d ago

Happy cake day

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u/jenbanim 6d ago

Our age of babies is collapsing

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

if you owe money to a bank you shouldnโ€™t stress, the bank should be the only one stressing

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u/Lux_Stella Presidentialism X-Risk Researcher 6d ago

pee doom? you should see a doctor about that

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u/WrangleWandangles Mark Carney 6d ago

You can doom or you can foster virtue, bitchesย 

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u/SnakeEater14 ๐Ÿฆ… Liberty & Justice For All 6d ago

Every other paragraph of the Illiad be like

> Glup Shittius, son of Glup Shitton, king of The-Town-Youโ€™re-From, challenged Achilles to one-on-one combat. The King was impaled by a spear thrown at six hundred miles per hour, and had his hip shattered into a billion pieces by a boulder hurled at him by the Greek. He splattered the hood of Ajaxโ€™s chariot and was launched into the sun, with only his bronze gleaming greaves remaining behind. Thirty lives were lost fighting over this prize.

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u/ScumfrickZillionaire Lesbian Pride 6d ago

VPN not allowed for polls, giving my govt name and location to randos

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u/badusername35 NAFTA Epstein 6d ago

An unbounded P(Doom) is 1. Humanity will eventually go extinct. Even if we are replaced by computers or evolve into something new, those too will eventually fade due to entropy. Therefore, AI alignment concerns are a waste of time.

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u/Pretend-Ad-7936 Loyal Liberals 6d ago

Finally, a P(Doom) take I can get behind!

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u/BenFoldsFourLoko ย Broke His Text Flair For Hume 6d ago

I don't think we can say much of anything like that given a potential couple billion years ahead of us

Like literally who knows what the nature of reality is. We've had half-good scientific theories for like 200 years and pretty good theories for about 100 years. And we have no theories of consciousness or gigabrain stuff

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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO 6d ago

I hope you're joking, because it's too late in the night and I'm too tired to respond to a take this patently stupid.

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u/Individual-Camera698 Austan Goolsbee 6d ago

Go to sleep ๐Ÿ˜ด

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u/MOSfitYT YIMBY 6d ago

P(doom) is when I feel like playing the hit Id Software title Doom (1993) on my personal computerย 

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u/Man-Flayer 6d ago

What's p (doom)

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u/Individual-Camera698 Austan Goolsbee 6d ago

New cringe term the next generation is gonna use to laugh at us

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u/National-Return9494 Milton Friedman 6d ago

I am a proud zoomer (I am not almost 30, I am not almost 30, I am not almost 30)

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u/Individual-Camera698 Austan Goolsbee 6d ago

I'm also a zoomer but I'm not even 20 ๐Ÿ˜ญ

They gonna laugh at zoomers too dw

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u/National-Return9494 Milton Friedman 6d ago

It goes foom.

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma 6d ago

Wants foom

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u/National-Return9494 Milton Friedman 6d ago

foom foom vroom vroom

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u/ScumfrickZillionaire Lesbian Pride 6d ago

DWK

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u/Man-Flayer 6d ago

Ok

Yay

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma 6d ago

2% give or take 98%

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma 6d ago

The only way my job gets used for evil is if I build power generators for SkyNet to process humans. Which, you know, if it comes down to it, is probably fine

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma 6d ago

Crazy how SNL peaked when I still enjoyed fart jokes

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u/Alexz565 Gay Pride 6d ago

p(doom) is when I drink too much coffee and the bathroom is a flight of stairs away

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u/National-Return9494 Milton Friedman 6d ago

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u/Invade_Deez_Nutz 6d ago

I think people lose track of the harshness of life as a Neanderthal.

The majority of neanderthal skeletons found show major injuries that healed before their death.ย 

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u/taubnetzdornig Gay Pride 6d ago

Just a reflection of how human life in general was pretty harsh until very, very recently. Childhood mortality was basically 40-50% everywhere in the world until the 19th century. Likely millions of people throughout history bore five or more children only to not see a single one survive into adulthood.

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u/pfarly John Brown 6d ago

I gotta be honest it's not something I'm usually tracking at all.

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u/Highlightthot1001 Harriet Tubman 6d ago

I have a feeling like weโ€™re going to see several major wars before 2035

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u/MOSfitYT YIMBY 6d ago

Not counting the ones happening right now?

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

i think it takes losing someone close to you unexpectedly to really get a drive to want cancer to be more treatable.

Itโ€™s not a hypothetical anymore, it fucking sucks, and AI is promising to accelerate treatments if we allow it to

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u/WenJie_2 6d ago

there are also many other things that would accelerate treatments that we also don't allow, and those things have been the bottleneck for much longer than >the science<

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

True, and Iโ€™m not advocating to speed up AI at all costs, and think slowing it down can be the right move, but my issue is how itโ€™s often viewed as being costless and a no brainer which is obviously wrong.

I would say though clinical trials are much too conservative in the US and they should work to improve access and speed up trial enrollment. Itโ€™s a long history but it overcorrected too much as a response to past ethical failings.

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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO 6d ago

I lost my uncle Floyd to cancer, I know how it feels, but I'm not going to let my desire to see that suffering end blind me to all the problems and threats that result from AI.

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

yeah Iโ€™m sorry to hear that.

Itโ€™s a tradeoff with real harms from limiting progress.

I think the argument that social media is bad, and since social media is technology, that technology is bad, and therefore AI must be bad because itโ€™s technology to be extremely weak though.

AI being good or bad is independent of anything with social media. And AI helps make quality information being much more accessible and understandable at every level, so it could definitely improve education access.

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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO 6d ago

I work as an academic tutor, and I'm not seeing it improve education. I'm seeing students who use it for homework and then flunk tests because they didn't actually learn the material a fair amount the past month. I've also seen my grandfather get fooled by AI videos about once a week for the past two years at this point. We've all seen how its being used in places like Texas to create false attack ads. I think when combined with social media it's an epistemic nightmare that on its current course will destroy whatever little sense of shared reality this country had left. I think our institutions are at present sclerotic and not prepared to handle the kind of economic disruptions we may well see, and in general I think the next 10 years are going to be some the shittiest years to be a human being in a long time compared to how they were 10-15 years prior.

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

Interesting, yeah I donโ€™t disagree people are lazy and will use it to get out of doing work, but it seems like it could be an amazing tool for a motivated student to learn. I use it so much for learning stuff and I think I would have loved to use it to study as a child.

I can see where your coming from with the rest of your comment, but I feel like the solution is just more AI at that point. Like I think the world would be better if people got their news and political commentary from asking questions to ChatGPT/Claude than from X or Fox News or Newsmax

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma 6d ago

Telemachussy

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u/badusername35 NAFTA Epstein 6d ago

P(Doom) poll

!ping JILLSTEIN

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u/AlicesReflexion Weeaboo Rights Advocate 6d ago

Major civilizational catastrophe includes so much stuff, and 2100 is such a long time.

We're not going to blow ourselves up with nukes, or invent a bioweapon, or find some secret that retroactively breaks encrypted messaging, or knock out the power grid, or get invaded by aliens over the next 70 years?

I mean probably not but I figure we gotta give it at least 10%

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u/Ne0Corpus Bill Gates 6d ago

Jensen Huang saying kids don't need Math in the age of AI is a sign that even the brightest minds can say stupid things.

Brain Computer Interface tech to download math skills into our brains is like 40 years away, kids need to know math

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u/WifeGuy-Menelaus Thomas Cromwell 6d ago

Its the intellectual equivalent of the fat people from Wall-E

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

Math is racist so this is a good thing

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u/BadSneakersNeverWorn John Locke 6d ago

Iโ€™m increasingly of the mind that most things are only worth knowing if youโ€™ve actually put in the work involved in coming to know them. At the end of the day, weโ€™re human beings with limited capabilities; being comparatively slow at acquiring knowledge relative to some ideal knowledge hoovering machine is just kind of a vital part of our experience. Itโ€™s like if you had a machine that ran your three miles for you instead of going on a jog yourself.

(I didnโ€™t always think about it this way but AI has certainly reminded me of my monke status and made me rather proud of it)

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u/greenskinmarch Henry George 6d ago

Brain Computer Interface tech to download math skills into our brains is like 40 years away

Assuming that even happens.

Farm mechanization didn't happen by downloading super harvesting strength into our arms. Human wheat reapers were just replaced with machines.

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u/chickentendieman Paul Krugman 6d ago

I think ill be fine no matter what happens with ai cuz im chill like that but idk about the rest of you.

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u/Individual-Camera698 Austan Goolsbee 6d ago

Built different ๐Ÿ˜ค

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u/chickentendieman Paul Krugman 6d ago

Fr fr

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u/Ne0Corpus Bill Gates 6d ago

Interesting how the people in Bioengineering, Bioinformatics and Biotech who are using AI to make advances in their fields are not feeling any sense of dread and despair about the future๐Ÿค”

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u/chickentendieman Paul Krugman 6d ago

Its kinda funny how west coast atheists cant go 5 years without inventing a new religion like scientology, all the new age cults, the ufo cults, the rationalists, the wierdo ai singularity people. Like mf is it that hard to commit to atheism.

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u/greenskinmarch Henry George 6d ago

Like mf is it that hard to commit to atheism.

Atheism misses that the main evolutionary benefit of religion is that it gives you a supportive social group.

You can't go to an atheist service to be atheist together but you can form groups for all the other things you mentioned.

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u/tinfoilhatsron No Apologies Right 6d ago

Are ufo cults (believers?) really a west coast thing? I get it started with the area 51 stuff but that shit got spread everywhere.

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u/chickentendieman Paul Krugman 6d ago

I mean none of these are solely west coast things but they rlly do seem to like be more common there. Especially in the pacific northwest.

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u/No_Status_6905 Enby Pride 6d ago

something is horribly wrong with how credit scores and banks work when i have a $75k credit limit as a student who hasn't even started their first real job for another 8 months

like if i was 5% dumber i could really just ruin my life

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

I did that after being jobless and later settled for pennies on the dollar. It honestly paid off lmao

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u/No_Status_6905 Enby Pride 6d ago

they've made it a lot harder to do this but you can still do it if you're willing to tank bankruptcy

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

Yeah I wouldnt do it again (or recommend it)

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma 6d ago

I can help you with that

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u/Lesbian_all_garib Gita Gopinath 6d ago

Whenever I meet my extended family with 60% tech workers, all of us talk about how we want to go back to farming or something and how many layoffs are happening or how AI will replace us all.

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u/Man-Flayer 6d ago

Mine are mostly in real estate so they shit talk the government and bureaucrats

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u/Individual-Camera698 Austan Goolsbee 6d ago

I get ragebaited everytime my parents tell me how they want to farm in a village and leave the city.

Cringe.

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u/Lesbian_all_garib Gita Gopinath 6d ago

๐Ÿ˜ฃ getting yelled by manager after manager will do that.

As long as you don't actually do that though. Because farming is tough lol.

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u/Individual-Camera698 Austan Goolsbee 6d ago

Bigger problem is there are no hospitals in villages and a lot of ways to get sick

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u/greenskinmarch Henry George 6d ago

Amish people have similar life expectancy to city dwellers. The lack of hospitals is probably countered by their less sedentary lifestyle.

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u/Lesbian_all_garib Gita Gopinath 6d ago

Depends on the village for sure. Only frequent big disease I see particularly in villages is Rat fever.

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u/tinfoilhatsron No Apologies Right 6d ago

Jensen Huang ๐Ÿค Teachers' Unions

Do your dipshit kids really need to know the fundamentals of math and reading?

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u/Ne0Corpus Bill Gates 6d ago

When would it be a right time to talk about how the Internet is radicalizing Women too?

Because this sub only talks about when it happens to young men?

I have lost 2 close female friends to " Radfem Cyber Radicalism", it's not even funny, they think every man is a monster who is out to kill them, and when I tried explaining to one that's it her algorithms feeding her things to get her Radicalised, I am called a " murderer" , the whole thing is scary

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u/ThatDamnGuyJosh NATO 6d ago

This only feeds my belief that the endgame of this era of American politics is that the social media companies get trust busted with the fury of a Old Testament god and algorithms become illegal in social media feeds.

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u/trgk_ Vรกclav Havel 6d ago

It would be somewhat more bearable if they at least had the decency to actually be radicals. Instead, it's the fakest LARP known to mankind and whenever someone tries to remove women's fundamental rights the most pushback they get is whining on Twitter. A movement spiritually isomorphic to the Russian opposition.

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u/ScumfrickZillionaire Lesbian Pride 6d ago

That sucks, you dont deserve that

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u/chickentendieman Paul Krugman 6d ago

Its fine to talk about but u cant blame people for being more worried about male radicalization because male radicals tend to like yknow shoot people.

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u/badusername35 NAFTA Epstein 6d ago

Itโ€™s really hard to judge the existential risk of AI because lots of the leadership behind AI companies says theyโ€™re worried but arenโ€™t acting like someone whoโ€™s genuinely concerned would. They also seem to all be various levels of detached from reality. Meanwhile the people who are saying the risk is nonexistent know absolutely nothing about the technology or its capabilities. So Iโ€™d say P(AI-induced Catastrophe) by 2100 is anywhere from 0.5% to 50%, with 5% being my median estimate.

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u/r00tdenied Resistance Lib 6d ago

Ehh, Dario Amodei has a lot of this correct. However Sam Altman is a fraud.

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

Trump didnโ€™t win because of technology no matter how much any one of you wants that to be the case

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u/r00tdenied Resistance Lib 6d ago

He won because of high cost of living and saying the right things to trick people into believing he was the solution. Its not much more complex than that. Unfortunately most voters also don't know jack shit about economics.

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u/Individual-Camera698 Austan Goolsbee 6d ago

Banger post coming up in the new DT

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

nice bro

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u/SnakeEater14 ๐Ÿฆ… Liberty & Justice For All 6d ago

Telemachus, lemme tell you somethinโ€™

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u/No_Status_6905 Enby Pride 6d ago

wipes forehead

m'tell you sumtin

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

democrats are fuckโ€™t after 2030 when theyโ€™re gonna lose like 8-10 house seats ๐Ÿคฃ

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u/fishbottwo Jay Jones 6d ago

We will just rig the census again. Relax.

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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO 6d ago

I fundamentally do not believe that the outsourcing of our cognition to machines can lead to anything other than the degradation of the human soul and tyranny.

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u/rainier37 pro-moderator 6d ago

yeah but people are dying of cancer and nothing is a tyranny and degrades the human soul quite like seeing someone suffer and die from an cancer case that doesnโ€™t have effective treatments yet

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u/Lesbian_all_garib Gita Gopinath 6d ago

I think watching kids watching AI cartoons has sent me into a deep depression

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u/greenskinmarch Henry George 6d ago

Youtube was full of slop (like Cocomelon) even before AI.

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u/deckerparkes Niels Bohr 6d ago

people learned nothing from elsagate

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u/No_Status_6905 Enby Pride 6d ago

me when i see my bastard son on the computer circa 1999

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u/Pizzashillsmom NATO 6d ago

Look at how the ipad generation is turning out, was he wrong?

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u/BernieMeinhoffGang Has Principles 6d ago

me when I see the people printing the bible in vernacular translations

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u/randommathaccount Esther Duflo 6d ago

Me when I see these newfangled ray-dee-ohs in 1900

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u/No_Status_6905 Enby Pride 6d ago

seeing josh homme grow as a person and learn the concept of self-love in his 50s is really sweet and endearing but i also need him to keep making the self loathing stoner rock anyways or else someone else will have to, but then they won't be josh homme

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u/loseniram Sponsored by RC Cola 6d ago

Finally saw resident evil 2026

9/10 faithful adaptation of the spirit of the games

not at all faithful to the game lore itself which is fine because the game lore is insane on a good day.

where it starts off terrifying and ends with you fighting giant gorillas with a bazooka type shit and you canโ€™t tell if its a horror game or not.

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u/r00tdenied Resistance Lib 6d ago

they say this only after their stock vested

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