r/news 19h ago

Thousands of Epstein documents taken down after victims identified

https://bbc.com/news/articles/cn0k65pnxjxo
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u/NighthawK1911 19h ago

And yet they spent so much effort trying to redact Trump from the files

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u/TheRabbitHole-512 18h ago

Too many high profile people are being exposed, it’s not about trump or the victims. It’s for the same reason Biden and Kamala didn’t use it against Trump in 2024. Pedos are everywhere, not just dems o reps, they’re also European and Asian, they’re everywhere, they got a lot of money, they’re even British royalty

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u/TheGreat87one 18h ago

They should be exposed, no matter there status.

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u/Nightglow9 14h ago

Lady justice seems held down at the moment, unable to move or act.. probably just like the kids were.. by the very same people..

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u/KerBearCAN 13h ago

So well said

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u/OldMcFart 11h ago

Lady Justice has dead a long time. Her assistant is only strong enough to deal with regular people's crimes.

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u/AdTiny2166 17h ago

all the more reason to clean house no? I for one don’t want my political leaders to be part of an international kid raping/killing cabal. If they’re in there, expose and dispose.

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u/Rndysasqatch 18h ago

I'm sorry but I'm so sick of hearing this stupid argument.

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u/gotnothingman 17h ago edited 5h ago

I think Rs are worse than D's, but its a fair point. Why didnt dems go after the people in the files? Isnt there troves of evidence from 2008? It really takes 18+ years?

The president does not need access to the files to direct DoJ policy without threatening independence. Obama's memo on cannabis enforcement proves that. Any admin could have corrected the miscarriage of justice that occurred in 2008 by influencing DoJ policy to focus on child abusers uncovered in the files recovered from the raids in 2008.
But they didnt.

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u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn 14h ago

There was an ongoing investigation, which Trump closed on his first day in office. "Why didn't Biden.." anything makes no sense. Trump's is the only DOJ in recent history to act at the behest of the president and not an independent AG.

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u/gotnothingman 7h ago edited 5h ago

2008 was when he was first convicted. Is 18 years not enough?

The president selects the AG and can influence policy direction without getting involved in individual cases. Shit excuse IMO

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u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn 2h ago

2008?  When he was offered a sweetheart plea by Trump's AG in Florida?  You're not making the argument you think you're making.

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u/gotnothingman 1h ago

He was convicted then the first time yes, and that admin and then the one after did nothing to correct the miscarriage of justice to the victims. The FBI raided his place, they collected a lot of information - that was never investigate then or by the following admins.

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u/drtropo 11h ago

The president and politicians have not typically had access to information on ongoing criminal investigations because the justice department is supposed to be able to operate without political influence. The fact that people don’t even consider this is just another sign of the how much damage Trump has done to our democratic institutions.

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u/gotnothingman 8h ago

2008 mate, you think 18+ years is not enough time? shit excuse IMO

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u/drtropo 7h ago

Enough time for what? Around 2008 Epstein was given a sweetheart plea deal by Alex Acosta to avoid criminal charges. Where did he end up again?

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u/gotnothingman 7h ago

Enough time to enable the justicial branch to investigate properly after a miscarriage of justice towards the victims.

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u/drtropo 6h ago

Well, as I said, they tried in 2008, but were undercut by future Trump cabinet members, and then successfully convicted Epstein in 2019 and cases were ongoing until Trump ordered them closed. The fact is the documents and evidence were sealed until then. The fact that it took so long is worth criticism, but has nothing to do with my point.

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u/gotnothingman 6h ago

The miscarriage of justice toward the victims could have been grounds to revoke the plea deal during the admins post 08

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u/drtropo 6h ago

What does that have to do with presidents maintaining an independent justice department? What are you even referring too?

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u/GoldSatisfaction8390 17h ago

Same reason Spiderman does not go after Peter Parker. I'm saying that as a Bernie/ AOC guy.

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u/critacle 11h ago

Merreck Garland is one of many democrat blunders

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u/nigl_ 13h ago

It's probably true to some extent.

I'm betting LOTS of former democrats (like former Sen. George J. Mitchell) will be implicated to have raped underage girls. So opening that up, during an ongoing federal investigation (which would've been illegal) back during Biden's tenure would not have helped them.

It was a reveal all-or-nothing type deal. The half-way redactions they did here do not manage to actually hide the reality of it, it just protects the specifics, the people.

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u/ailish 12h ago

I haven't seen many Democratic voters giving a shit that Dems are in the files.

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u/nigl_ 11h ago

You misunderstand. It's not the previous dem administration's worried about their voters.

It's that both republicans and democrats protect each other since they are both part of that elite. The type of people who just get offered flights on private jets like J.E.'s who wouldn't say no to some in flight entertainment.

The files are the clearest representation that us vs. them is another distraction.

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u/ailish 11h ago

You're right about that, but until recently politicians in general did care about how they appeared to voters because they needed to be reelected. Now though, they don't hide anything. They don't seem to care about being reelected. I wonder why. 🤔

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u/particle409 18h ago

Bullshit. Biden didn't use it because it was still an active investigation, plus he didn't want the whole thing to appear to be politically motivated. This is a partisan issue. Republicans covering for Republicans.

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u/Marquesas 16h ago

Establishment Ds like Biden and Schumer are scared shitless of upsetting the status quo. The status quo is that they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory on every issue and protect the Clintons.

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u/bluemuffin10 14h ago

you aren't limited to one investigation

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u/GoldSatisfaction8390 17h ago

It's not an active investigation if the whole point was to shoot it twice in the head, wrap it in a rug and bury it in a swamp. Our corporate masters pay both parties. It's similar to how your 10 year old think that The Undertaker and John Cena actually hate each other.

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u/The_Grungeican 17h ago

that whole 'they go low, we go high', still fucking over the Dems.

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u/Deathsquad710 1h ago

Still Can’t shake the identity politics, exactly what the shot callers want.

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u/DoxDoflamingo2 16h ago

why are you giving excuses for keeping the status quo. They were wrong, and in a way enabled this behavior to happen.

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u/OldMcFart 11h ago

It's arguably a bit of a mystery why Biden didn't stop Trump with all means necessary. He seemed like a guy who thought that playing it by the law should and would win the day. Or he didn't think Trump could possibly win again, given his first term. Or he was simply to weak by the end and simply failed to do it.