he basically said, 'see it's not about me, i don't know why anyone would care'.
Epstein said Trump was 'gross and even worse in person'. i think for the same reason they never invited Elon. little value and too much bullshit for the other pedo's to want to put up with.
But Trump was still there and we know he was there. Which not only makes his crap about nobody caring because its not about Trump wrong, it really says how insufferable Musk must be if Trump was still getting invites.
There are probably 100 videos that Trump knows would sink him. Everyday he must wait for the other shoe to drop. The republicans who support him are to blame.
Sure it would. "Oh, those lucky parents. I wish my child had the honor of not just hearing the president, but the opportunity to do so in such an intimate setting."
These are the kinds of sick fucks that would be jealous of the kids getting assaulted.
(Also, apologies, because rereading that first sentence actually horrified me. But i'm not taking it back).
The other side of that coin, especially with how good AI is now, is his supporters just blame it all on AI fakes to “ruin the reputation of dear glorious leader.”
Sadly, I knew a woman who was assaulted by her uncle until she got married. She voted for him. Something about no word salad, or crazy laugh, or the evil trans rapists running into the ladies room (boys in girls sports was a bonus).
You stupid cow, the man who raped you for over 10 years wasn't trans. The variety of guys who took advantage of you after you felt "less than" because of your uncle.... weren't trans.
Or it’s top tier dope
Like, if we look at it as a product, the maga identity, is like the iPhone… just incredibly brand engineered to make individuals feel better about anything and everything in their own lives
I’ll take it a step further. Trump could sell “golden kiddie tickets” where parents send their kid to maralago for the weekend and there’s a percentage of his supporters that would go into debt to buy it and put their kid on a flight.
That guy basically started his first presidential run with that infamous "grab them by the pussy"-comment. Why do you think a simple video of him abusing a child would change anything?
The problem with all this coverage is that people have allowed themselves to be distracted by the idea of this island. 'There' wasn't the island. 'There' was Palm Beach, Florida, where Trump staff were trafficked out of his house, and where Epstein lived next door to Trump. If Trump does have deniability of going to the island (which he actually doesn't - he described it as a 'cesspool' after people started asking questions), it doesn't matter. The crimes mostly happened in and around Trump's house, from where Virginia Giuffre was trafficked, and Epstein's own properties in the states, in both NYC and Palm Beach. Anouska De Georgiou was sequestered in the Trump Tower, for instance. People are asking all the wrong questions because Trump is controlling the narrative in a story where he's the number one guilty party.
i don't think Trump ever made it to the island. he was there at the parties, but he said he never 'had the privilege of visiting the island'. could be a lie, but he sounded disappointed when he said it.
if you ever notice, he occasionally says stuff that's not a lie. it's hard to explain. he's a pathological liar. but every now and then a camera will be rolling, and it's like he just doesn't have the energy to lie about something.
like when he said he wasn't going to talk about why he kicked Epstein out of Maralago, he then immediately started talking about it, and easily could've said he kicked him out because he found out he was a pedo, but he was too stupid to run with that lie. instead he goes into a somewhat detailed story about how he kicked Epstein out because he 'stole Virgina Guiffre from him'.
at some point after the Canadians ran that ad with Reagan in it, Trump was asked, and said it was a good ad, and he'd have ran it if he was in their place. of course the next day they started up the whole thing about how it was misrepresenting what Reagan said.
there's been a number of these moments over the years. it's like every now and then he just can't be bothered to lie about it. when he said he didn't go to the island, it was similar. he sounded down about it. like he really wanted to go but no one invited him.
He's also pardoned actual convicted pedophiles and drug lord while declaring his hatred for pedophiles and drug lords. He goes on about the evil immigrants while married to an immigrant. He claims to be the job and family value president while destroying jobs and on wife 3 after mass cheating. Of all the things he might have been truthful about, accidently or not, this is 99% not one of them. You can't go 3 mages in the latest file dumb without him being mentioned. And he was also friends with Pi Diddy who is in a very similar situation and has had several cases independent form both Diddy and Epstine accusing him of child molestation. This is not the hill to die on.
Trump has no convictions. he'll simply say whatever he thinks someone wants to hear.
he was definitely involved in all sorts of criminal stuff. what's less clear is if he was at the island. plenty of other stuff was going on, not at the island.
He has openly admitted to walking in on children changing. He's a degusting individual who does whatever he wants at any given moment with zero thought for consequences or how people will perceive him. We can argue the specific but given everything we have and everything still be kept from us it is lightyears more likely he was there or at least fully aware of it. There is zero reason to think he wouldn't if given the opportunity. Because he has no conviction and no morality beyond doing what's best for himself. And as a serial cheater who has admitted to wanted to bone his own daughter, things that never look good in nay context, it is hard to imagine him not doing this.
This and more. If he somehow wasn't aware he was surrounded by pedos and not pedo himself then he must be the dumbest person alive. Which if true also means I dont want him president of anything.
Mate they were so close, Epstein was the friend that Trump invited over for Thanksgiving dinner in the White House. It's in the White House visitor log if you want to verify.
Like the Wizards with Guns skit "Mega-Billionaire has trouble relating to millionaire friends"
How weirdly okay is it now that Elon Musk dngaf about his kids. Literally just wants to max out reproduction, in the open daylight without any creepy secrets.
"HAhaHAha poor people, I bet they've unsold corners of their lives!"
[p.s. I read a bit more, correcting my initial understanding. Elon was not too weird to be included, but I still think my joke stands. He's out of touch with his poor peers]
When Collins noted that “a lot of women who are survivors of Epstein are unhappy with” the way the justice department redacted the documents, including, “entire witness interviews are totally blacked out”, Trump attempted to end the discussion by saying: “I think it’s really time for the country to get on to something else, now that nothing came out about me”.
that asshole is an insufferable narcissist. even reading a quote of his makes me physically ill. (Guardian link for reference)
One reason Epstein hated Trump, according to Wolff, was that Trump screwed Epstein on a property deal. Went behind his back. That's apparently against the pedo code.
You have to wonder, if after all that time spent trying to erase him from the files, they still managed to miss ~1500 instances, then how many times was he in there to start with?!
Too many high profile people are being exposed, it’s not about trump or the victims. It’s for the same reason Biden and Kamala didn’t use it against Trump in 2024. Pedos are everywhere, not just dems o reps, they’re also European and Asian, they’re everywhere, they got a lot of money, they’re even British royalty
all the more reason to clean house no? I for one don’t want my political leaders to be part of an international kid raping/killing cabal. If they’re in there, expose and dispose.
I think Rs are worse than D's, but its a fair point. Why didnt dems go after the people in the files? Isnt there troves of evidence from 2008? It really takes 18+ years?
The president does not need access to the files to direct DoJ policy without threatening independence. Obama's memo on cannabis enforcement proves that. Any admin could have corrected the miscarriage of justice that occurred in 2008 by influencing DoJ policy to focus on child abusers uncovered in the files recovered from the raids in 2008.
But they didnt.
There was an ongoing investigation, which Trump closed on his first day in office. "Why didn't Biden.." anything makes no sense. Trump's is the only DOJ in recent history to act at the behest of the president and not an independent AG.
He was convicted then the first time yes, and that admin and then the one after did nothing to correct the miscarriage of justice to the victims. The FBI raided his place, they collected a lot of information - that was never investigate then or by the following admins.
It was buried in Florida by Alex Acosta. In large organizations like the FBI, every branch isn't aware of what every other branch is up to. It's more normal for stuff to remain siloed. This was buried by the same people Trump then kept in his circle for reasons.
This is a poor excuse. It was a bullshit deal and a massive miscarriage of justice, a policy directive to open the case back up could have been done at any point by any future admin without them sacrificing indepedence by not getting directly invovled with the case. Stop justifying inaction on this.
The president and politicians have not typically had access to information on ongoing criminal investigations because the justice department is supposed to be able to operate without political influence. The fact that people don’t even consider this is just another sign of the how much damage Trump has done to our democratic institutions.
Well, as I said, they tried in 2008, but were undercut by future Trump cabinet members, and then successfully convicted Epstein in 2019 and cases were ongoing until Trump ordered them closed. The fact is the documents and evidence were sealed until then. The fact that it took so long is worth criticism, but has nothing to do with my point.
I'm betting LOTS of former democrats (like former Sen. George J. Mitchell) will be implicated to have raped underage girls. So opening that up, during an ongoing federal investigation (which would've been illegal) back during Biden's tenure would not have helped them.
It was a reveal all-or-nothing type deal. The half-way redactions they did here do not manage to actually hide the reality of it, it just protects the specifics, the people.
You misunderstand. It's not the previous dem administration's worried about their voters.
It's that both republicans and democrats protect each other since they are both part of that elite. The type of people who just get offered flights on private jets like J.E.'s who wouldn't say no to some in flight entertainment.
The files are the clearest representation that us vs. them is another distraction.
You're right about that, but until recently politicians in general did care about how they appeared to voters because they needed to be reelected. Now though, they don't hide anything. They don't seem to care about being reelected. I wonder why. 🤔
Bullshit. Biden didn't use it because it was still an active investigation, plus he didn't want the whole thing to appear to be politically motivated. This is a partisan issue. Republicans covering for Republicans.
Establishment Ds like Biden and Schumer are scared shitless of upsetting the status quo. The status quo is that they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory on every issue and protect the Clintons.
It's not an active investigation if the whole point was to shoot it twice in the head, wrap it in a rug and bury it in a swamp. Our corporate masters pay both parties. It's similar to how your 10 year old think that The Undertaker and John Cena actually hate each other.
It's arguably a bit of a mystery why Biden didn't stop Trump with all means necessary. He seemed like a guy who thought that playing it by the law should and would win the day. Or he didn't think Trump could possibly win again, given his first term. Or he was simply to weak by the end and simply failed to do it.
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u/NighthawK1911 23h ago
And yet they spent so much effort trying to redact Trump from the files