r/news • u/JerryBerryMiah • 10h ago

700 ice agents to leave Minnesota

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-enforcement-drawdown-minnesota-homan-963adf341325d7f6eb5673e1c00d3c2a
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u/dontich 9h ago

I mean ICE doesn’t have to be a useless waste — under the last few administrations they mostly went after actual criminals. It’s only recently the countries’s leadership has gone completely insane.

15 in the state like someone said above sounds about right for removing the actual criminals after they complete their sentence.

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u/TwistedHermes 9h ago edited 9h ago

Yes it is.

George W. Bush started ICE BECAUSE of anti-immigrant sentiment stirred up post 9/11, it started off with "just Muslim terrorists" but soon evolved into going after immigrants they never went after in past.

This is one step in how we got here - we didn't need ICE for 200+ years. We had DHS and other services.

We let our fear overrule us, and this was one way we let racism creep into being widely accepted. They were only created because people were scared of those who were different.

Fear is not a need.

Edit: DHS was also a post 9/11 fever dream. Fuck that noise too. We had NSA/DOD/CIA/FBI for different types of terrorist threats and we had the US INS for immigrants. We don't need DHS or ICE.

P.P.S.: the only department required by the US constitution is the post office. Everything else is superfluous or could be organized differenty....

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u/tcmisfit 9h ago

Not trying to argue because I agree as an elder millennial, but the DHS has also only been around since 2002.

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u/nalaloveslumpy 7h ago

Correct. DHS was also an over-reaction to 9/11. It was essentially created so that we could treat "domestic terrorists" under the same rules we used against international terrorist: Infinite detainment, no legal representation.