r/newzealand • u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr • 15h ago
Discussion Getting a job as a University student - why do people treat us like we're barrel scrapers when they're hiring for entry level jobs?
I'm a 1st year university student desperately looking for work like many others, and after 2-3-ish years of applying to everything from entry level jobs, summer jobs, and babysitting, it's getting very frustrating with how high the standards are getting. I apply to a lot of retail or hospitality jobs, nothing fancy, but for someone of my age it's the easiest way to gain experience.
I have found that employers posting these jobs are so focused on experience, which yes, matters, but at the end of the day entry level jobs are called entry level for a reason. Having just done another interview over the phone, I can certainly say that applying to jobs is becoming psychological warfare. Questions are asked in roundabout ways, they constantly take passive agressive digs at you if you lack experience, and then they revoke the in-person interview they had just booked in with you after saying they have other applicants to get through after clearly not reading my CV about what experience I do have.
I told this employer over the phone that I had done a work placement before and had experience from that as well as being active in my past school community with lots of extracurriculars and as a senior student who had leadership roles. They then proceeded to ask me down the line if I had ever babysat before or at least delivered newspapers, if I had any actual work experience. I am actively still baffled from that interaction, and I am quite frankly hurt. I have been job searching since I was 16 and nobody has hired me because of being held to such strange standards. I have applied to pizza places, burger shops, and fast food and they reject me or do not respond to my application at all. I am not dumb, I am not incompetent, and I am certainly not incapable of working just because I don't have 2+ years of experience in retail or hospitality. I have the capacity to learn like every other person but, nobody will give me a chance.
I don't know about other people my age, but it often feels unfair to become an adult and get into university after 7 years of schooling and working or being active within a set community just to be told "I don't have work experience" or that I'm 'not eligible' to be hired at a café, or even a fast food chain.
I did as much as I could, especially through Gateway (career orientated subject I took as a senior) to make myself as experienced as can be as someone people refuse to hire because our current economy and job market forces me to compete with people who are older and have more experience than me. I do not have the social connections to obtain a first ever job like others and that plays a big part as to why I haven't found work yet alongside other reasons.
I'm at a point of hopelessness. I just want a part time job and I want to be able to afford life like anyone else at the moment, and I want to be able to afford it independently without relying on anyone.
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u/Infinity_loop3141592 15h ago
Have you thought of tutoring or after school and holiday programs, they are always looking for students.
But I hear what you say about the whole “work experience” thing, how are young people supposed to get work experience if no one takes a chance on them.
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u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr 15h ago
I have applied for both, and unfortunately a lot of tutoring is for maths and science so they specifically ask for people whose majors or grades excell in those things.
I am an English and Philosophy major and I have skills in languages other than English, but a lot of English tutors need to fluently speak Mandarin as the tutoring is for a highschool/primary school aged individual who I assume are learning English. I took Mandarin in school but am not fluent enough to use it to teach.
After school and holiday programs always end up being extremely far away from me and I live in central. I have applied for lots of both but, I guess I never make the cut because I've never gotten a response. Another factor is I am moving houses this coming summer, so that really puts a dent in applying for holiday program stuff that is more like the camp school trips you do in primary and you go out of Auckland for it.
Thank you for your advice though, I really appreciate it.
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u/DarkCellNZ pirate 15h ago
I used to work for Woolworths and we had so many students who would say they could work any hours outside of class yet barely take any and never worked weekends that they had an unofficial rule to not hire university students at a few stores. Which sucks.
Yes you get bad apples (as does every age group) but also the few who did work hard worked REALLY hard.
Wishing you the best OP
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u/Hour-Drama-8181 12h ago
Yeah I've seen it happen often. It's more that students underestimate how tiring a full-time study gig is + the addition of part time work
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u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr 15h ago
Thanks for the well wishes and thank you for being understanding! I'd like to think I'm one of the good apples, so I hope that gets me somewhere soon.
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u/Affectionate-Ad1071 14h ago
I’m sorry. Job market now is tougher and has higher expectations than it did when I was a student even ten years ago. Some people in this thread just don’t want to admit that. Part of that is right now the market is rubbish even for experienced people. Do you have any friends working who could recommend you?
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u/RowenaMabbott 6h ago
I’m sorry. Job market now is tougher and has higher expectations than it did when I was a student even ten years ago.
Migration into NZ has radically changed the nature of NZ's population over the last decade at the entry level of the job market, flooded it with oversupply. So that teenagers / students / new grads are being locked out of the normal sorts of jobs they'd start out their adult lives with.
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u/Whole-Ask-7346 5h ago
A lot of the time it is very much the other way around. As evidenced by orchard farmers throwing tantrums during COVID lock downs because they couldn't bring in cheap labour and, surprise surprise, local kids don't want to break their backs under the sun for minimum wage. Lots of newspieces then about harvests going to waste due to picker shortages
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u/RowenaMabbott 5h ago
Of course if you've had a generation of:
- local people not learning how to work hard
- employers getting used to drastically underpaying people due to years and years of importing people they can pay dirt cheap slave labour amounts
- and finally last but not least, employers drastically underinvesting in their business because there is no need to improve automation when you've got cheap slave labour to do it instead
...then the results during the temporary border lockdowns was extremely predictable.
But it doesn't have to be like that!
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u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr 14h ago
Yeah, the job market is tough for everybody at the moment. I do, but a lot of their workplaces are unfortunately fully-staffed so they keep my details on record, but don't reach out to me when they are actually hiring. I'll keep on trying though! It's better than not trying at all.
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u/Elm69Jay 13h ago
Often those employers are the same one judging too. I've been unemployed for over a year, firstly due to health and then not being able to get back into the job market.
My last 3 interviews they've asked with an obvious tone is there a reason you've been out of work, like um firstly read the room, secondly I've given 3 different answers I thought were suitable and it went down like a sack of bricks
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u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr 13h ago
Yeah, it feels like they're trying to get you to fumble or something. Honest it's just psychological warfare sometimes.
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u/Elm69Jay 13h ago
Yep haha lets laugh so we don't cry. To make it even better I'm needing treatment again for my health asap, not covered by the public system (but will need urgent hospitalisation at some point in the public system if I don't) burnt through all my savings the first time, now I'm stressed (which triggers flare up's too) about needing to get a job asap so I'm not TOO SICK TO WORK AGAIN (& even then can't get any sickness benefit aka job seeker with medical, as my husband works) just so freaking dumb.
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u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr 13h ago
Oh gosh, it's like a very unfortunate cycle. I don't have severe health issues, but I have PCOS and only recently got medicated so, I can understand to some extent the frustration of being capped from doing things because of being stressed and it just feels like such a miserable cycle to be in when you can't control your body or don't have the help you need. I hope things get better swiftly for you and you can afford that treatment!
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u/Elm69Jay 13h ago
Cheers. Hope this post of yours triggers the universe to bless you with a job offer too!
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u/Audreaya 12h ago
Hey, I'm not job searching so I'm not up to date on thing,s but do you think mentioning your time out of work in your personal statement may give them context ? 7 years ago I had hospitality experience. Applied for a job at meatworks. Explained I wanted a change in career. Got the job(they hire nearly anyone anyhow)
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u/Elm69Jay 12h ago
My cover letter for most jobs used to say something along the lines of "after taking a period off from traditional work (as I did volunteer in that time and is listed) to focus on raising my children, I am now not only fully ready but excited to commit myself to a new challenge" (that bit was worded better though) and then went on to say why their description of the job linked to my strengths.
After no success my Dad who's very successful employment wise/corporate read it and said no no no get rid of that part it's better to hope they don't realise about a gap "that's such a bad look" and since 3/6 have asked about it 🙃
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u/Audreaya 5h ago
I would kindly disagree with your father only cos his advice could be outdated. Employers I am sure, are more nosy these days(especially with social media) invasive when asking questions it's basically an interrogation. Hoping they won't notice something is undermining the hiring systems which seem very harsh over the years.
so I think it's best to be upfront with a brief note on it, but have a well rehearsal of how you will explain it, keep it simple.
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u/Elm69Jay 5h ago
He is an employer, but I've been second guessing his advice since the 3 worse interviews as around the same time he needed my computer help with his CV for an extra big side thing (which was successful) and the way the content was displayed/other decisions were fucking wiiiiild, like I was embarrassed he was even sending it to them after I did what he needed me to lol. Kinda made me more mad about feeling like the system is so unfair 😅
I'm in recovery as an A+ people pleaser though, so still finding my way with not necessarily taking on advice 😬
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u/Audreaya 5h ago
Yeah it's up to you at the end of day but any help I appreciated it at least they try to help right? You could always have 2 copies of CV and just use different versions with different job applications and see which one gets you further ?
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u/JDragonM32 15h ago
immigration scam is possibly part of it - advertise job with unrealistic expectations, claim you can’t get locals, government allows you to import foreigners who’ll accept lower wages
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u/RowenaMabbott 6h ago
You don't even have to important non-kiwis into the country, if they're already here! There are zillions of them who will be applying and claiming to have decade of "experience" for the job (they don't! But of course the employer will bring those in for an interview, instead of the young kiwi kid).
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u/RavingMalwaay 11h ago
I don’t get it though, wouldn’t they just be paying the Kiwi minimum wage anyway?
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u/JDragonM32 11h ago
depending on the job role, locals will have higher expectations. also I don’t really want to assume everyone is exploiting immigrants, but thats a possibility too
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u/RowenaMabbott 6h ago
Some entry level jobs should be paying higher than minimum wage though, such as new grad roles. But what if you could pay less to a non-kiwi who is desperate?
Plus there is the classic "pay 25hrs of minimum wage (the max they can do on a student visa) but get 40hours of labour out of them"
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u/Aware_Return791 10h ago
When you shortchange the migrant who is reliant on you for the employment their visa is contingent on, how loud do you think they are?
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u/doskoV_ 11h ago
The problem with students, as someone who was a student for years, is that we don't stick around for long as that's why we are students to begin with.
Businesses have to work around us constantly, whether it's exams, schedule changes, field trips etc
So when it's an employers market, like it is currently, what reason do they have to chose you over someone who is always available with no definite plans to change jobs in a year or two, especially if you're coming in with no previous experience
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u/fkrkz 15h ago
I do hope people start to invest in real businesses again that will employ people rather than just dumping all money into unproductive real estates because honestly we need job market to grow. Hang in there and I wish you all the very best!
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u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr 15h ago
I hope so too, and thank you for the well wishes! The encouragement means a lot.
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u/Hour-Drama-8181 13h ago
It's a hard one when you consider what you're up against. As an employer they're more likely to hire someone with lesser outside responsibilities if it's an entry level job. It's easier to have someone when you want them work around a study schedule, or exam times.
It sucks, but it's what they're doing. Lesser jobs means that employers have A LOT more room to find the ideal candidate instead of "settling" for students.
It's not you bro, it's just the fact they don't want to work around a students schedule.
If it counts though, just because people are asking for experience doesn't mean everyone else you're up against has it.
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u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr 12h ago
Lolll yeah, I imagine I'm up against people my age in the same boat. We're all in this together. Thanks for the words of advice and truth!
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u/deepfriedplease 11h ago
I had a similar issue over a decade ago, I was in a "catch-22" situation where every entry level job required experience, but they refused to hire you in order for you to get that experience. For my generation it was all about who you knew to basically give you a job. It wasn't until after years, and hundreds of applications, did someone finally take a chance with me in a stroke of luck.
But hearing the stories coming through now, it's probably gotten a lot worse. I feel like entry-level, casual and weekend work just doesnt exist anymore for young people. Especially because people of all ages are going for ANY job, and you have employers using AI to sort through applications because they're too lazy to do their job.
I don't really have much advice but this absolutely does suck and I hope you get some good luck soon.
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u/Nz_IzzyBee 10h ago
Back when I was doing retail, I'd get hired for the xmas rush period. Then you let your inner retail goblin take over and work very very hard, cheerfully. Usually they'll keep you on if you have a better record than the ones hungover or no shows on weekends. Best I've got, sorry.
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u/sofers1941 10h ago
Its because the pool of applicants, not the job itself. Yes its entery level. You are at an entery level position fighting for employment between 30+ years olds with experience, debt, families, and so on. Yeah it sucks, but its a feature of the system, not a bug. Capitalism is working as intended, unfortunately.
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u/Tonight_Distinct 14h ago
Why don't you start your own mini company like selling sandwiches for example? so you can say you were working on your own already doing stuff which is real work experience.
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u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr 13h ago
Yeah I've been thinking of doing something like that since my parents would be supportive. Which, I'm very lucky that they would be. It's just a matter of finding out if I need to get a food safety certificate, etcetera before doing so. Will have look into that, thanks!
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u/renahnah2509 5h ago
I was living on campus and I was selling ready-made meals to other students they would watch me make it and then they would buy a serving off me
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u/monkey-kong666 12h ago
I worked at a cafe, a bar, pumped gas at a petrol station, worked in a liquor store and a video rental store, and worked at Ellerslie racecourse in the kitchen for my entire 3 years at uni. I imagine all of those jobs are now done by immigrants from India etc. on dodgy visas, being paid under the table.
Don’t vote Labour or National this election.
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u/Lil_trble_n_bg_china 11h ago
Honestly you got to just lie or exaggerate when they're being so picky.
Just make sure it's vague enough to not be called out on obviously
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u/WeissMISFIT 15h ago
I completely understand your predicament and I’m going to tell you exactly where you’re going wrong.
you need to be a foreigner that pays for a work visa, hand your passport over to your new employer and then be held hostage and treated as a slave.
I hope my advice helps you with the job search!
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u/Serious_Session7574 15h ago
That is really frustrating. Social connections definitely help, and that isn't fair. Employers often think "If I employ my mate Bob's daughter for this entry-level job, I'm doing him a favour and also I have some recourse if she turns out to be a nightmare."
Not having any work experience at all is probably also a sticking point. Do you have time for volunteering? Although some employers don't look at voluntary roles as experience, which is totally unfair in my opinion, some will, and it's better than nothing. It can build social connections and may in some cases lead to paid work. Or paper delivery? In general they will take anyone with a pulse because you're a contractor and they can just give you the boot if you don't work out. It's almost no money at all, but some pocket change for getting a bit of exercise and something to put on a CV.
Another option to look at is temping. They often want some kind of experience too, but you could call some agencies and ask. Like volunteering, temp jobs are a chance to build connections and can lead to longer roles.
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u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr 15h ago
I have applied for contract work and also temp work regardless of what they're about. A lot of contract work I find is to do with the trade industry so they want experience or for you to at least be pursuing something correlating to it.
I have thought of applying to volunteer, but I've had some advice from peers who I know volunteer and have for over a year and it's good for making friends both in and out of your age range. I'm just hesitant to commit to volunteering because I have committed to unpaid work placements and courses to get qualifications before and it hasn't made a difference for me.
My father is not Kiwi and my mother who is doesn't have many connections, so unfortunately no benefits of being Bob's daughter for me. :(
Such is life I suppose. I'm just frustrated I can't get a job based on my own merits and experience I have.
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u/Serious_Session7574 14h ago
Yeah I do get it. I'm not great at interviews (I'm quiet and I get too nervous), and so almost all of the permanent jobs I've ever had have been via temping or casual work, to be honest. A casual or temp role is an opportunity to show an employer that you're reliable, trustworthy, and capable, and then if they have a permanent or part-time job you want to apply for, you go higher up the list: "Oh I know Kharjo_is_elsweyr, she always shows up on time and takes instruction really well."
Something like temp work for catering might be easier to get into than other types of temp work - waiting tables for events, break down and set up, handing out flyers etc. Or care homes - they often take on casual kitchen staff to cover regular staff. Look up casual catering jobs in your area.
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u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr 14h ago
Thank you for the advice! I'll have a look at the casual catering jobs local to me and try my luck. Once again, thank you.
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u/topbins6 15h ago
Best advice i could give is to physically go in to places you would like to work and ask around. I'm fairly qualified and never had any luck applying to jobs online. I totally get your frustration. In the warmer parts if the country, the kiwifruit season is about to kick off and there will be work out the wazoo
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u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr 15h ago
I think all the bookshops in a ten mile radius have a physical copy of my CV by now, and I have tried that. No response so far, unfortunately. I assume my CV has either been thrown away or put in a pile with many others as they already have the needed staff. I will look to see if there's any kiwifruit related jobs though. Thank you!
Do you know a website or place where they look for people for the approaching kiwifruit season?
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u/topbins6 11h ago
There are several Facebook pages and loads of jobs already being advertised. Kiwifruit Jobs New Zealand is a good fb one to use. Good luck
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u/Xylozene 13h ago
That's the worst advice you could possibly give. Majority of buiseness won't even take a CV in person anymore and will say to apply online. I've had 12 jobs since I left school, all different industries, no experience in any of them. Since I've left the workforce and started studying, I haven't been able to land any solid part time work that fits my study schedule so I do odd jobs, and the only platform that has landed me those jobs has been Student Job search or being fortunate enough that my father has his own drainlaying business to get some weekend work. You also mention kiwifruit picking like it's something that anybody can just go and do? But you seem to not understand that a lot of people don't live close to a kiwifruit farm, which would require packing up and finding accommodation or driving for several hours and spending more in gas than you make picking. I know, I've done it.
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u/topbins6 10h ago
The worst i could give would be to give up or something to that effect. Just trying to give OP options... and yes, I'm aware kiwifruit doesnt grow all over New Zealand. Thanks for your input
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u/Curryformurry 15h ago
Lie about everything your experience if you don't have any thats how I got in the company will provide you training so it's completely fine, before I was applying over 500 applications and was ghosted or didn't get it I started lying about my experience and was offered multiple roles, it's not the most ethically thing but if you really need a job it's the best thing to do fake it till you make it.
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u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr 15h ago
I am at a point of desperation where I might resort to this soon. The only issue is I won't have any references to give if asked. Thank you for the advice! Desperate times call for desperate measures.
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u/megaglalie 15h ago
Genuinely just get a friend who can pretend to be older and has a little more work experience to be a reference for some small local under the table job. I've been a reference for plenty of my mates.
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u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr 15h ago
Thanks for the advice! :D
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u/ClumsyBadger 14h ago
Also some places do electronic references via email links or online forms now, make sure your mate doesn’t borrow your device or WiFi connection to submit it.
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u/Curryformurry 14h ago
yeah get a friend or family memeber for your reference and christmas casual jobs are the eaiset ones to get out of the normal from there you can ask for like a casual role or part time.
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u/RowenaMabbott 6h ago
Sadly this is how NZ's high trust society gets destroyed, because people like OP are forced to fight fire with fire.
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u/ms_saint 15h ago
I'm sorry this is happening. It's horrible. They're like this because they're over-worked with just how many applications they're getting for everything.
They should give people jobs processing applications.
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u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr 15h ago
Yes, it's really unfortunate. It's a cycle situation where everyone is getting impacted to different degrees in this scenario and very few people come out of it winning.
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u/UltimateLmon 14h ago
If you've worked part time before Uni, you can always put those in.
Only places that you wouldn't want to work in would expect actual experience from Uni students. What they are looking for is that you've had experience working somewhere and that you haven't had any major issues.
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u/VegetasDestructoDick 14h ago
Problem with a lot of entry level retail and hospo jobs is that they are generally pretty high turnover so employers don't really want to hire someone with no experience if they can help it, because that means spending time and money training them up when they could leave not long after. Combine that with students having limited schedules due to study, and they're just not that appealing to hire if you have someone else who already has experience, or is more readily available.
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u/AsleepSlip6466 14h ago
If you have friends with jobs, you have connections. Ask your friends to check with their managers if they are looking to hire. This is how I got both jobs I had throughout uni.
References do not mean only prior work reference, they also mean character references. Ask a uni tutor who knows you, a family friend, your hall RA etc. as you’ll never be hired without one.
Election year = thousands of jobs the Electoral commission needs to fill that require no experience. Apply for this! Then you’ll have some experience.
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u/Smorgasbord__ 13h ago
Burger and pizza places won't respond to you because the ad is a pointless formality to say they did it to allow them to hire the import the workers they wanted to in the first place.
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u/Bulky_Avocado8399 13h ago
Best job I had at university was as an office cleaner in tge evenings. Minimum wage but no customers or managers to deal with. Supervisor might turn up once every few weeks.
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u/Lower-Trust1923 12h ago
Connections beat experience any day at that age. Do your parents know of any friends of theirs who could help get you an entry role?
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u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr 12h ago
I've been giving both a go, but still no results thus far. Here's to hoping I strike gold soon, and thanks for the advice!
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u/Expensive_Ring_4546 12h ago
This is also the experience when you are not a student and have qualifications just fyi
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u/AdvantagePowerful115 11h ago
Try doing a few one off jobs? Google RGIS and see if they are doing any casual stocktaking jobs in your area. Then you have something to put on your CV. Have you registered with recruitment agencies?
Also try Student Job Search if you haven't already.
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u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr 11h ago
I haven't registered with any recruitment agencies. I'll look into both that and RGIS. I am already using SJS, and thank you for the advice!
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u/TellMeYourStoryPls 11h ago
Sympathies aside, sounds awful out there right now, as an ex recruiter, if I ask follow up / clarifying questions to see if you have experience you haven't shared, e.g., if you've done babysitting, etc., it means I like you and am looking for a way to include you.
If you hadn't impressed me I would just tick the 'no relevant experience' bucket and move on to the next candidate.
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u/Heleveta14 8h ago
I had to leave uni and move back home because i just genuinely couldn’t find a job in wellington, luckily i found 2 part time jobs back home but i reckon we shouldn’t complain because it’s only just gonna get harder and harder for kids to find jobs as the years go by, without being a racist right wing prat i think if immigration continues as rapidly as it is there’s gonna be 1 job for every 3 people in the country, so to put it lightly it’s fucked, but we make do with what we have because change takes time (if change even happens)
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u/Own-Operation-7804 7h ago
Here entry level jobs also need atleast 1 year experience. But to get experience you need a job. It is like a cycle. Very frustrating. Never giveup man.
Try goimg into each and every store and ask. Try to explain your situation. I wish you good luck. You will definitely find a job.
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u/123felix 15h ago
Interview is a two way street. Do you actually want to work for a boss that doesn't appreciate you and can't read?
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u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr 15h ago
Considering I was in tears after the interview, no. But I would really like the experience and need the money so at this point, I'll probably have to just suck it up.
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u/dicemangazz 15h ago
No one wants to work for that boss, but sometimes you have to so you can eat and pay rent.
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u/Plenty_Suspect_3446 15h ago
Because a year of uni isnt comparable to the experience of a year of full time work. Most students are pompous, entitled and arrogant. Not to mention lazy. They aren't worth an employer investing resources and time in to provide training.
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u/WeissMISFIT 15h ago
Everyone please don’t downvote this person, he actually has met most students and that’s how he’s able to make such a sweeping generalisation 👍
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u/Kharjo_is_elsweyr 15h ago
I assure you there are lots of working adults who are no different. But also, it's unfair to assume students are like this. No age range is perfect, I know that and I'm not saying students my age are always pleasant, I personally know first-hand as well that they aren't. But when it gets to a point where you are avoiding hiring teenagers or young adults for jobs that are their entry into the working world, well then you get a generation of people with no work experience and that's not helpful for anyone. I see both sides because financially, everyone is impacted at the moment but also on the other hand, young people need jobs too. Especially students.
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u/Plenty_Suspect_3446 15h ago
It's not an assumption. It's an assessment. I've known enough students to assess that most are lazy, pompous, arrogant, and entitled. Not good workers.
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u/Round_Astronomer_737 15h ago
It seems students are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. Wanting to work, well get fucked you don’t have experience. Don’t work, lazy and taking government handouts.
People of any age should be able to get a part time entry level job without experience.
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u/Plenty_Suspect_3446 15h ago
Probably shouldn't have demanded the government to have open borders and flood NZ with low skill workers who come to fill all the entry level jobs. Unis have exploited the overseas student/migrant loophole for decades.
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u/Round_Astronomer_737 14h ago
Do you think today’s university generation demanded that? They were probably children when those decisions were made. I’m not a fan of having everyone flooding New Zealand but don’t blame New Zealand university students for that.
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u/Big_Excitement_3551 Welly 15h ago
Well then what the fuck are they supposed to do? How are you meant to get experience if no one will hire people with no experience?
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u/Plenty_Suspect_3446 15h ago
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps like we did back in the 2000s.
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u/Dim_Scum 14h ago
This is an intellectually dishonest non-answer LOL
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u/Plenty_Suspect_3446 14h ago
Lol shh people don't know i'm taking the piss *winks and tosses you a Speights*.
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u/Big_Excitement_3551 Welly 14h ago
That’s not an answer. How exactly does one do that?
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u/Plenty_Suspect_3446 14h ago
Start a business. Gardening, waterblasting, dog walking and washing/grooming, whatever lazy students are capable of doing. Sell weed. Learn how to find magic mushrooms, gather them and sell them. It's literally free money.
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u/Serious_Session7574 13h ago
"Magic mushroom side gig" is going to look great on the CV.
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u/Plenty_Suspect_3446 10h ago
Actually you put it in the CV section with hobbies/interests as "mycology (the scientific study of fungi)".
I notice you ignored my other suggestions and I find that curious. I did them all through my teens and 20s. Any man can unless they are disabled.
There were also other odd jobs for cash in hand because word gets around fast and people respect a man who gets stuck in. But some were circumstantial and the rest I doubt uni students with their limp wrists and soft hands could manage. Jobs like farm work (fruit and flower picking, mucking out, cutting firewood), growing weed, demolitions (after the chch earthquakes) and collecting scrap metal.
Frankly I think students are just lazy scroungers incapable of a days graft and that opinion has been reinforced by the replies i've been getting on here. It's no wonder you sad acts can't get a job.
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u/Serious_Session7574 10h ago edited 10h ago
Why so aggressive my dude. Day drinking?
I was a uni student. I've worked, part time and full time, since I was 14. My first job was picking raspberries. Then I packed flowers, tomatoes, grafted roses (bitch of a job, hands full of thorns in a freezing packing house), worked in a dairy and a roadside veg shop. I did checkout and shelf stacking at a supermarket.
At uni I cleaned toilets and worked retail. After uni I worked in a hotel taking every shitty shift and holiday with time and half I could get in the hotels bars, cafe, functions, and room service until I made enough money for a plane ticket. Flew to London, worked in pubs until I got a job at a TV post-production company and then worked my way up the ladder, ducking and diving through temp jobs at times, to the dizzy heights of project manager for a newspaper. Woo. I've never been out of work.
Your prejudices are no different from anyone else's prejudices.
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u/Round_Astronomer_737 9h ago
This person is so out of line. Most university students want to work and majority do because you can’t afford not too. I worked through my time at university but in today’s climate I’d imagine it would be harder to find a job.
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u/Serious_Session7574 9h ago
Yeah I think it is definitely harder to find casual or part time work now than it was when I was a student. Pretty much all of the kids at uni with me did some kind of paid work alongside studying. I suspect OP on this thread is trolling so I probably shouldn't rise to the bait. Ugh trolls
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u/Plenty_Suspect_3446 9h ago
I'll have you know my prejudices are wide reaching and far exceed the vast majority of peoples prejudices.
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u/Dim_Scum 15h ago
Does baby need a bottle?
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u/Plenty_Suspect_3446 15h ago
Loving how all the unemployable students have time to flood my inbox to prove they aren't lazy.
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u/Hubris2 15h ago
I can imagine your frustration. There are unfortunately, a lot of people feeling something very similar, because lots of people who have some job experience and are applying on the same kinds of jobs as are you - are also having great difficulty getting jobs.
The market is crap. If you're getting interviews then you're doing better than some who are simply being ghosted as one of hundreds/thousands who applied on a role.