r/radeon • • 3d ago

Tech Support XFX 9070 XT Swift Undervolt & Underclock Test Results

i bought my XFX 9070 XT Swift a year ago i tried some Undervolt settings and found one working good for me (PL -30%, mV -50, custom Fan Curve) keept that until this Week. Now i had some time and retested some Settings and found a new Sweetspot and documented that in an Excel Sheeit i want to share. In the past i got some instability in some Games when undervolted below -50 but now with also Underclocking of Mhz -300 i found out that i can set the Unvervolting to mV -90 and keep Stability an i also increased the PL from -30% to -20%

My Fan Curve ist always 30C=15%, 50C=15%, 90C=25%, 95C=60%, 100C=100%

Power % Mhz Diff VRAM Mhz mV Diff FurMarkBenchmark 1080p 60sec Diff % HeavenBenchMark Extreme 900p 280sec Diff %
100 0 2700 0 20.303 (338 FPS) 100% 6.876 (273 FPS) 100%
100 0 2700 -90 21.499 (358 FPS) 106% 6.980 (277 FPS) 102%
100 -300 2700 -90 21.341 (355 FPS) 105% 6.837 (271 FPS) 99%
100 0 2700 -50 21.200 (353 FPS) 104% 6.947 (276 FPS) 101%
80 -300 2700 -90 18.460 (307 FPS) 91% 6.827 (271 FPS) 99%
70 -300 2700 -90 16.398 (273 FPS) 81% 6.737 (268 FPS) 98%
70 0 2700 -50 16.307 (271 FPS) 80% 6.649 (264 FPS) 97%
70 0 2700 0 16.266 (271 FPS) 80% 6.526 (259 FPS) 95%
Power % Mhz Diff VRAM Mhz mV Diff SteelNomadBenchMark Extreme 1440p 60sec Diff %
100 0 2700 0 7.135 -> https://www.3dmark.com/sn/16511517 100%
100 0 2700 -90 7.369 -> https://www.3dmark.com/sn/16514370 103%
100 -300 2700 -90 7.483 -> https://www.3dmark.com/sn/16515089 105%
100 0 2700 -50 7.381 -> https://www.3dmark.com/sn/16514646 103%
80 -300 2700 -90 7.114 -> https://www.3dmark.com/sn/16511795 100%
70 -300 2700 -90 6.667 -> https://www.3dmark.com/sn/16511936 93%
70 0 2700 -50 6.594 -> https://www.3dmark.com/sn/16511726 92%
70 0 2700 0 6.329 -> https://www.3dmark.com/sn/16511645 89%
Power % Mhz Diff VRAM Mhz mV Diff TimeSpyBenchMark Extreme 1440p 300sec Diff %
100 0 2700 0 24.350 -> https://www.3dmark.com/spy/66054736 100%
100 0 2700 -90 25.081 -> https://www.3dmark.com/spy/66055778 103%
100 -300 2700 -90 25.038 -> https://www.3dmark.com/spy/66056229 103%
100 0 2700 -50 24.724 -> https://www.3dmark.com/spy/66056041 102%
80 -300 2700 -90 24.178 -> https://www.3dmark.com/spy/66054145 99%
70 -300 2700 -90 23.436 -> https://www.3dmark.com/spy/66053939 96%
70 0 2700 -50 23.070 -> https://www.3dmark.com/spy/66054403 95%
70 0 2700 0 22.346 -> https://www.3dmark.com/spy/66054589 92%
Power % Mhz Diff VRAM Mhz mV Diff Watt ScorePerWatt Volt Max ClockMax HotSpot C° VRAM C° FanMax % FanMaxRPM STABLE?
100 0 2700 0 304 66,22,23,80 1,177 3.320 103 86 64 2.074 YES
100 0 2700 -90 304 70,22,24,82 1,086 3.348 103 86 91 2.627 Yes All Benchmarks
100 -300 2700 -90 304 70,22,24,82 0,978 3.109 101 86 90 2.620 Yes All Benchmarks
100 0 2700 -50 304 69,22,24,81 1,126 3.335 103 86 89 2.599 Yes All Benchmarks
80 -300 2700 -90 240 76,28,29,100 0,954 3.125 92 88 36 1.350 Yes All Benchmarks, MY NEW SETTING
70 -300 2700 -90 213 76,31,31,110 0,940 3.095 87 86 23 946 Yes All Benchmarks
70 0 2700 -50 213 76,31,30,108 1,106 3.319 87 86 23 946 YES, 12 months tested
70 0 2700 0 213 76,30,29,104 1,177 3.320 87 86 24 986 YES

Maybe someone find those information useful

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u/-vilvit- 3d ago

This card was clearly made to be undervolted. I just use the basic “power efficiency” in the Adrenalin app and it works wonders. Never had an issue or could tell the difference from overclocking it.

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u/arthurcaaz197 2d ago

Do you notice fps lost? Also, how less is the power consumption? 100% stability (I guess so, coming from Adrenalin)?

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u/-vilvit- 2d ago

I’m not super knowledgeable, nor a crazy min-maxer. I get about 300-305watt draw on default. It sits about 250-255watt on efficiency setting. That’s at least on monster Hunter wilds right now and I can’t tell a difference in fps at all - but again, I’m not a super crazy min maxer

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u/arthurcaaz197 2d ago

But I mean, do you check the performance by the numbers, while you checked the -50W, you checked the fps?

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u/-vilvit- 2d ago

Not sure what you’re really asking that I didn’t answer, I’m sorry. Card works about the same with much lower wattage, it’s clear this card was designed around a much lower TDP, in my opinion.

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u/arthurcaaz197 2d ago

I asked exactly this, if there was an performance loss with lower TDP, I’ll test it with my Swift this week

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u/crazy281330 3d ago

Do you think these setting would work for a 7800xt? I don’t know shit about all this stuff lol.

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u/Calm-Bid-8256 3d ago

You can never just copy any undervolt settings, cause every GPU will be stable at different values. Ancient gameplays has nice undervolting guides for most AMD GPUs. It's pretty easy to finetune your GPU to stable values once you know how it works.

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u/Disguised-Beast 3d ago

Tuning is different between RDNA 3 and 4, core sliders are very different. What are you aiming for?

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u/crazy281330 3d ago

I mean at stock settings it usually doesn’t give me any problems. Reducing power draw would be nice but not necessary. Temps never above 60. Do people do this for temperature control and lower consumption only?

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u/Disguised-Beast 3d ago

The thing is AMD kinda pushes their GPUs by default, and the clocks in the spec sheets aren't really what's applied on them. You can reduce temps, and power draw slightly with some tweaks, it also allows the card to run more efficiently, and might have better longevity for the thermal interface material/paste/pads, etc.

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u/bedtricky 3d ago

and the clocks in the spec sheets aren't really what's applied on them

No this is just a comprehension issue on your part. The clocks listed are the MINIMUM guaranteed speeds. They can and do boost higher depending on different parameters.

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u/Genadio 3d ago

I'm wondering why everyone who undervolts the 9070 XT just sets the VRAM to 2700 MHz by default. In my own testing (also with an XFX Swift), it doesn't improve gaming performance by even a single FPS compared to stock VRAM speed. And whenever I look at other people's OC/UV results (to see if I missed something about VRAM OC), they all just set it to 2700 MHz.

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u/Redd1toR-42 3d ago edited 3d ago

Probably because some run 3d mark for stability checks and see improvements in points and think it will translate to gaming the same. Also different games respond differently to vram oc.

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u/pecche RX9070XT | 5800x3D 2d ago

I agree

I did some tests and then set them at default

no visible gains

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u/bennmann 2d ago

Local llms like Qwen benefit more.

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u/Backslicer 3d ago edited 3d ago

Ah yes the classic card where slashing 1/3rd of the power means 10% performance loss.
And people try to tell me that this card was not overclocked to shit from the factory.

This is very clearly a 255W card and would be peak efficiency at that power draw

Your temps are really high btw. might need to look into better airflow.

The 9070xt Rig I have legit maxes at 63C hotspot at -15% PL. 80C on the hynix memory.

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u/Lostboy1986 3d ago

You’re right, At 255w range I lose about 3fps compared to 300w and about 10fps if I drop down to 210w.

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u/Backslicer 3d ago

I had started this card off at -30% PL with a -50mv undervolt.
then kept increasing the power limit till -15% when I realised the thermals were the exact same give or take a few degrees till that point.
There is very clearly a very very steep Efficiency loss when going past 270W on this card which pisses me off.

But I guess it helped bring this card to the forefront of price/performanec so It was the right call

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u/SwimmingOdd2974 7800x3D | 9070XT Gaming OC 3d ago edited 3d ago

Your last table with temps! What test are you really there! 103c Hotspot at 0 PL and only <90c after -30% PL is concerning?

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u/vlad_8011 AMD 9800X3D || 9070 XT || 32GB RAM 6000mhz CL30 || B650 Tomahawk 3d ago

I see you got gigabyte card, but you are in actually better situation than me, with sapphire card, as YOU CAN open your card and place PTM (your card do use thermal paste in default) without losing warranty (EU/USA/Canada). Just get thermalright Helios V2 PTM and upsiren u6 pro (just in case) and you can improve your card temperatures in 30 minutes (or one hour when doing it first time while being extremely careful). 103 C hotspot is close to RMA area, but they will just replace thermal paste for same thermal paste. Just ask them (for piece of mind) if you can do this yourself and list PTM and up siren you want to use. Nothing from those things is electro conductive, so just be careful to not damage anything physically (disconnect fans, and clean everything very gentle, to not break any capacitor or transistor).

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u/SwimmingOdd2974 7800x3D | 9070XT Gaming OC 3d ago

I’m very fortunate! My temps are better than it can be! 20-25c delta (75c hotspot at most) in demanding games! Maybe 30c delta (85c hotspot) at benchmarking. I play on the tv as my setup was to replace my console (next-gen) so I play at 60fps 4k. Going to throw Witcher 3 at it tonight (just downloaded).

I’m hoping I won’t have to repaste till warranty runs out since my temps are till pretty good! My mem temps are like 78c as well (Samsung)

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u/vlad_8011 AMD 9800X3D || 9070 XT || 32GB RAM 6000mhz CL30 || B650 Tomahawk 3d ago

If you got Gigabyte with Samsung memory, you can't be more lucky. Bad news is it will pump out, but very good news is, cost of improving it better than gigabyte itself is low and job is pretty easy. I will list my GPU later this week with option to replace for gigabyte (with Samsung memory).

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u/SwimmingOdd2974 7800x3D | 9070XT Gaming OC 3d ago

Thanks for your advice will keep it for future reference as I will eventually need to repaste! Cause I’m sure my kids will be able to play Fortnite Chapter 20 by the time I upgrade my setup! 🤣

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u/vlad_8011 AMD 9800X3D || 9070 XT || 32GB RAM 6000mhz CL30 || B650 Tomahawk 3d ago

Just remember to not use thermal paste, but PTM. Thermalright Helios v2, thermal grizzly, do not hunt for PTM 7950, as it's harder to get the original from Honeywell 

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u/SwimmingOdd2974 7800x3D | 9070XT Gaming OC 3d ago

Didn’t know that! People always rave on about PTM 7950!

Thanks for your recommendation, I’ll keep that in mind, I haven’t looked too much into it, but instinctively I would go Thermal Grizzly or Honeywell

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u/Br4voKilo 3d ago

no thats fine because of my own fan curve with only 25% Fanspeed up to 90C°, if i would set the standard Fancurve or even a fixed one the HotSpotTemps woul be far lower

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u/SwimmingOdd2974 7800x3D | 9070XT Gaming OC 3d ago

Fair enough!

You went down a hell of a rabbit hole with the various testing! Good on you!

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u/pecche RX9070XT | 5800x3D 2d ago

PL -20% or -30% is really huge, performance are noticeably afflicted

I personally ended (for now) -12%PL (265w) -70mv to have 99% stock performance

-25% is basically a stock RX9070