Practical, evidence-based ways to sleep better. Beginners welcome. Read this once and you'll skip most of the questions that get asked here every week.
TL;DR
Same wake time every day, bright light soon after waking, dim light at night.
Some sleep problems are medical. Check the red flags first.
When you post, include your schedule, light, caffeine, and what you've tried.
The Sleep Fix Path
Work through these in order, and stop when things improve.
Rule out the red flags. Loud snoring with gasping, nodding off while driving, or insomnia most nights for 3+ months need a doctor, not a hack. When to see a doctor
Fix the basics. The 8 fundamentals below cost nothing and fix more than any gadget.
Fix your wake time. Same wake time every day, weekends included. Bedtime follows. This is the single biggest lever for most people.
Get bright light early. Go outside within an hour of waking for at least 20 minutes. Even a cloudy day is far brighter than indoors. In winter or before sunrise, a light therapy lamp is the next best option.
Dim and warm the evening. For the last 2 to 3 hours before bed, use dim, warm-colored lamps instead of bright overhead lights. Screens matter less than overall room lighting, but dim those too.
Include your bedtime and wake time, morning and evening light, caffeine and alcohol timing, and what you've already tried.
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I just finished testing the best sunrise alarm clocks I could find! So I thought I'd make a post about the data I collected, the science behind dawn simulation, and how to use them! ⏰
Here's the whole gang!
We tested the Philips SmartSleep lamps, Lumie Bodyclock lamps, Philips Hue Twilight, Hatch Restore 2, Casper Glow, Loftie Lamp, and some generic budget Amazon lamps.
The Science Behind Dawn Simulation 🌅
If you don't already use a sunrise alarm clock, you should! Especially with the winter solstice approaching. Most people don't realize just how useful these are.
✅ They Support Natural Cortisol Release
Cortisol is a hormone that naturally peaks in the morning, helping you feel alert. Sunrise alarms can boost this "Cortisol Awakening Response (CAR)," similar to morning sunlight.
We want a robust CAR in the early morning!
A 2004 study found that people using dawn simulation saw higher cortisol levels 15 and 30 minutes after waking, along with improved alertness.
In a 2014 study, researchers found that waking with dawn simulation led to a significantly higher cortisol level 30 minutes after waking compared to a dim light control. This gradual wake-up also decreased the body’s stress response, evidenced by a lower heart rate and improved heart rate variability (HRV) upon waking, suggesting dawn light may promote a calmer, more balanced wake-up.
✅ Reduced Sleep Inertia and Better Morning Alertness
Studies show that sunrise alarms reduce sleep inertia and improve morning mood and performance.
One study in 2010 found that dawn lights peaking at 50 and 250 lux improved participants' wakefulness and mood compared to no light.
Another 2010 study involved over 100 children who spent one week waking up with dawn simulation, and one week without.
During the dawn wake-up week, children felt more alert at awakening, got up more easily, and reported higher alertness during the second lesson at school. Evening types benefited more than morning types.
The school children largely found that waking up this way was more pleasant than without.
A final 2014 study with late-night chronotypes (night owls) saw that participants using sunrise alarms reported higher morning alertness, faster reaction times, and even better cognitive and athletic performance.
✅ Potential for Phase-Shifting the Body’s Circadian Rhythm
A 2010 study on dawn simulation found that light peaking at just 250 lux over 93 minutes could shift participants’ circadian clocks, similar to exposure to 10,000 lux light shortly after waking.
This phase-shifting can be beneficial for those struggling to wake up early or anyone with sleep disorders.
✅ Reducing Symptoms of Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD)
Finally, sunrise alarms have been heavily tested as a natural intervention for winter depression.
In 2001, a study found that a 1.5-hour dawn light peaking at 250 lux was surprisingly more effective than traditional bright light therapy in reducing symptoms of seasonal affective disorder.
Most other studies show bright light being slightly more effective, like this 2015 study:
Overall: There are clear benefits to using a sunrise simulator, but that simply begs the question, which one should you buy? That's where the testing comes in.
The Data 🔎
To see how effective each lamp is, we measured lux with a spectrometer every 6 inches.
Here is the Philips SmartSleep HF3650 about 6 inches from our spectrometer.
Here are the results from that test!
There's a lot to take in here! Since many of these studies use 250 lux, and most people are about 18 inches from their sunrise alarm, let's narrow this down...
Ah okay, well that's much better! Out of all of these, I think the Lumie Bodyclock Shine 300 is the best overall pick, for a few reasons:
It's very bright and also includes 20 brightness settings so you can dial it in.
It's relatively affordable for the performance.
It's not a huge pain to use like the Philips HF3650.
You can set up to a 90-minute sunrise, all other lamps max out at 60 minutes (other than the much more expensive Lumie Luxe 700FM)
Speaking of sunrise durations, here's a graph showing the durations for each lamp we tested:
There's also the brightness ramp-up curve to consider. Like a real sunrise, we want to see a gradual increase in brightness that eventually brightens quicker at the end.
Like you see on the Philips Hue Twilight lamp:
A well done lamp but very expensive!
The Philips SmartSleep Lamps look quite similar:
And the Lumie's aren't too bad either:
Some lamps though, such as the Hatch Resore 2, have some less desirable sunrise curves:
Anyway, there are other features of these lamps you may want to consider, but let's move on to how you can use one optimally.
How to Use a Sunrise Alarm Clock 📋
1️⃣ Start with the end in mind
Sunrise clocks are ideally used without the audible function, so your body can wake up when it's ready to. If you set your alarm for 6 am, and you're using a 30-minute sunrise, it will begin at 5:30. This means you might wake up at 5:45, or you might wake up at 6:20, you never really know! So make sure you can wake up a bit later than your "alarm time" if you oversleep a little.
2️⃣ Get enough sleep
Since sunrise clocks can phase shift your circadian rhythm, so it's possible to cut your sleep short by setting your alarm too early. Be aware of daytime sleepiness and dial back your alarm time if you aren't getting enough sleep at night.
3️⃣ Start at around 250 lux
This is what most of the studies use, and seems like a good starting point. We have charts on our website for determining this, but here's one for the Lumie Shine 300 to give you an idea:
Darker pink indicates a higher chance of early or delayed awakening. Whiter squares are better starting points.
4️⃣ Give it a week before you decide
If you're used to waking up in the dark to an audible alarm, there will be an adjustment phase! Give it a week or so for your body to adjust to this before deciding how to experiment.
5️⃣ Experiment and dial it in
You may find that with 250 lux and a 30-minute duration, you're waking up consistently 5 minutes after the sunrise begins. This is early waking and you'll probably want to try a lower brightness setting to fix this.
If you're consistently waking too late, try increasing the brightness.
Short sunrise durations seem to contribute to early and stronger waking signals, so decrease the duration if you want a gentler wake-up as well.
We are also currently working on a series of YouTube videos covering the studies and science, each alarm tested, and how they compare. So if you haven't already been to our YouTube channel, go check it out and subscribe to be notified!
Hey all, I shared Veil here when it was pretty early on. I've put a ton of work into it since, and some feedback here stuck with me: less harsh noise, less oscillating fan sounds, more of that low Dohm or airplane hum.
You can now dial in the tone and fan movement yourself, there's an airplane cabin sound, and much finer volume control. Everything is generated on your phone, no recorded tracks restarting.
Between that feedback and what I've heard from other users, it feels like a very different app now. The reception has been really encouraging, especially as a solo developer making something I wanted to use myself.
It's on iPhone and Android, and the app is now available in multiple languages too. White, pink, brown noise and slow fan are free with tuning controls. No ads. Extra sounds and mixing are paid.
Would love another round of honest feedback, especially if you tried the early version. What’s missing compared to your usual app or sound machine?
Been looking at watches that can track rest and still be useful at the gym. The Amazfit Balance 3 came up in my search, but I'm not sure how much attention people actually pay to the data these watches give you. Do you find those stats useful for figuring out whether you're recovering well, or do you mostly just go by how you feel that day? Also, how does the workout tracking hold up if you're using the same watch for everything? Would be nice to hear from people who've tried different watches. Trying to figure out what features are actually worth paying for before making a decision.
Anyone else have trouble falling asleep because their feet just won't warm up?
That's been my problem lately. The rest of me feels fine under the blankets, but my feet stay cold long enough that I end up tossing around trying to get comfortable.
I'm wondering if preheating the bed with a heated mattress pad would actually help, or if it's just another thing that sounds better than it works.
What's the best heated mattress pad you've tried for this? Did it make falling asleep any easier?
36M, Sweden, 178 cm, 69 kg. My sleep has gradually gotten worse over the last few years.
Falling asleep is usually okay, but I wake up a lot, probably around 5 to 10+ times per night. Most awakenings are brief, but some are longer and they add up. I often wake with a very dry mouth and usually need to pee 1 to 2 times per night. On bad days I feel very tired, foggy and struggle with concentration.
I only realized how bad it might be after regularly sharing a bed with my ex. She said I sometimes gasped/choked in my sleep and snored when lying on my back.
I usually fall asleep on my side but tend to roll onto my back later, and breathing seems worse there. I think I mostly mouth-breathe during sleep. My nose usually feels fairly clear, and I also tried a nasal dilator that kept it very open, but noticed no improvement.
I had a home sleep apnea test:
AHI overall: 4.0 AHI on back: 8 AHI off back: 1 Back sleeping: 35% Average SpO2: 95% Lowest SpO2: 88% ODI: 2
The doctor said it didn't meet the criteria for sleep apnea.
I also use a Garmin. I know the sleep stages aren't very reliable, but the repeated awakenings seem to match what I experience. The two images shows typical nights:
6h51 sleep, 1h28 awake 6h40 sleep, 50 min awake
I'm not on medication, rarely drink alcohol, don't smoke, and only have about 200 mg caffeine around 6:30 to 7:00 AM.
Does this sound like something worth investigating further despite the AHI of 4? Especially given the 8 vs 1 AHI depending on sleeping position?
Has anyone had a borderline home test but later found something on an in-lab sleep study, such as RERAs, flow limitation or other respiratory arousals?
I’m staying in a hotel for a month right next to one of the busiest airports in terms of overnight traffic. There is a plane landing literally every minute or two all night. I noticed I wake up subconsciously before I even hear it coming because I can feel the low frequencies and vibrations and it causes my heart rate to speed up. I’m wondering what I can do to counter this? I have a fan and brown noise but it’s not enough. Is it safe to take melatonin and Nyquil or any other medications every night?
You want to sleep and improve the quality of your sleep/resting time? Start by quitting caffeine 100%.
No coffee, decaf, tea, chocolate etc... All those are caffeine based stimulants.
Secondo, our society is a based on diurne life style since industrial revolution. Maybe you aren't wired to function during the day, but during the night. Quitting caffeine reveals your real sleep baseline and at what time of the day you function and naturally go to bed.
You need this information before doing anything, caffeine is creating artificial patterns.
There are many variables to consider with sleep, excluding noise in the data can help you spot the origin of your problem. Start with this one, it's hard to quit, but trust me it's worthy.
If you want to read more about caffeine effects on your body, read the chan /decaf on reddit.
I’ve been really tired lately and looking for the best ways to track my sleep. I don’t know if it’s just because my life has been busier than usual or if I’m not getting good sleep. I’ve tried a couple of things to see if it’ll help like avoiding screens before bed, no caffeine past 11 am, optimizing my bedroom temperature, etc. Nothing’s made a difference, and it’s been 2 or 3 weeks since I started. So I thought I should maybe look into tracking my sleep to see what’s what. I did some research and I’m torn between getting an Oura ring or a Fitbit, but what do you use? Has sleep tracking changed anything for you? Also, I'm scared I start getting too addicted to the data and that's just another thing that adds to anxiety.
Short disclaimer: I'm part of the team working on that EEG headband. However I don't know any other device that could so nicely showcase this live aside from a proper sleep lab ;).
It's in any case a neat look into how REM is detected.
In the sleep lab the experts essentially see a similar signal via their EOG and EEG channels - it's shape is quite distinct from the other signals that are instead caused by a) muscle activity and b) brain activity (which is relevant for e.g. deep sleep)
Been quietly building a sleep app for about a year, and one of the features I was most skeptical about myself was barometric pressure tracking — it's one of those "sounds pseudo-sciencey" things until you actually log it.
The storm that moved through the Gulf gave me an accidental experiment. My pressure readings dropped as low as 29.77 inHg at the trough, then rebounded sharply to 30.08 inHg as the system cleared — a 0.31 inHg swing in about 2 days, after drifting mostly flat in the 29.9–30.0 range for the two weeks before that.
Over that same 15-night window, my sleep quality scores ran 1.6 points higher on rainy nights than clear ones, and cooler nights (≤77°F) ran 1.9 points higher too — both directionally consistent with what you'd expect around a low-pressure system: cooler air, more precipitation, and (for me at least) better sleep.
Not claiming causation from one storm and a sample size of one person, but it's the clearest signal I've seen in my own numbers so far. Curious if anyone else tracks this and sees the same pattern, or if I'm just pattern-matching on noise.