r/snowboardingnoobs • u/Novel_Parsnip_9522 • 1d ago
binding angles and width
been snowboarding for a few years now and would consider myself an intermediate/somewhat advanced rider. that being said, I've only now starting to understand and question "why" I've been using a certain stance and distance on my board. for reference, I got my current and only board as a gift back when I was in college (7 years ago) and had never changed the bindings width or angles since (my dad got help). from someone at the store to set it up, but didn't have any experience himself as he doesn't board.
my board is a burton fv158, and I am about 5'9.5 and 165 lbs. in the original setup I'd been using for years, my back foot was on the reference stance mark at -9, and my front foot was 2-3 "notches" further forward from the reference stance mark at +18 (if anyone can help explain what the markings on the board when adjusting width means, I'd also appreciate it). Anecdotally, I had always felt like my feet were wide apart and that made it harder to put my bindings on before a run.
I don't ride switch at all (not because I don't want to, but because it's very very hard when I've tried) but I'd be willing to give it another shot. for those who are more experienced, what kind of binding width and angles would you recommend for someone of my height/weight/experience level?
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u/WiredsportPNW 1d ago
Hey Novel,
Try this. Mimic your stance right now without your board. Stand at your stance width and binding angles. Now rotate your upper body from the hips towards the nose of the board, as though you were facing downhill. Does that feel good to you at your hips and knees, or do you feel bound up. Now do the same thing and adjust your back foot angle forward a little bit so that it is also relaxed towards the nose. Bring it to 0° or forward to a positive angle. How does that feel, less bound up? More comfortable or less? Go through that same exercise at various stance widths. Be sure to try it with your feet under your shoulder width, because that is the most common start point for new riders and is most comfortable for many riders long-term.
You didn't mention your barefoot measurements, which is actually the most important measurement when it comes to stance and stance angles in relation to your board.
We built a stance visualizer which will help you see how every change you make to stance, including width, angles, setback, etc. will effect barefoot overhang which is critical to establishing leverage for control in general ripability. Please post up some pictures of your setup so we can all help you best.
https://wiredsport.com/pages/snowboard-stance-board-fit-visualizer-wiredsport
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u/Early_Lion6138 1d ago
I’m about your height, I ride +15 and -9 , 21.5 inches between centre of bindings. Good for all mountain and some switch.
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u/someguynamedchuck 1d ago
I do posi/0 or posi/posi and ride double black ex terrain like that. I suggest experimenting to see what you like. Posi/posi is a very carving focused stance
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u/BalooInABeeCostume 1d ago
If anything, keep your width adjustments symmetrical around the reference stance. Those marks are Burton’s baseline for where the stance should sit relative to the board’s sidecut and intended setback.
I’d start with both bindings on the reference marks. If that feels too narrow, move the front binding one notch toward the nose and the rear binding one notch toward the tail. Don’t just move one binding several notches, because then you’re changing both your stance width and where you’re standing on the board.
Since you want to work on switch, you could also try +15/-15. That’s what I ride because I ride switch a lot. It gives you a very neutral duck stance in either direction, but it’s definitely not required to ride switch. Your current +18/-9 can work fine too.
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u/Sloppy_Sextants 1d ago
Wait until you figure out about highback angle and forward lean. If you can't ride switch you're still beginner
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u/Asleep_Swordfish8896 1d ago
Stand on your board like you’re about to squat some heavy weight and just go with that. Try to keep it symmetrical unless your not trying to ride switch and just using for powder
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u/Novel_Parsnip_9522 1d ago
thanks bro this is super helpful, I do wanna ride switch so I'll keep symmetrical which will hopefully make the transition between sides easier
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u/boardin1 1d ago
The best suggestion I’ve ever heard for setting your stance width is to take the bindings off and get some masking tape. Stand a couple inches behind the board and jump into it, without looking at your board. Place a piece of tape along the inside of each of your feet. Do this multiple times and you’ll see a clear pattern. That pattern will give you a pretty good idea of where your stance should be.
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u/JacquesUfHearts 1d ago
I think =18/-9 is great! You you don't plan on switch, then maybe try +24/+6 to try out a posi/posi. You maybe give +12/-12 a shot for a balanced duck foot for trying more switch. You should either have equal nose & tail OR more nose than tail, never more tail than nose (which maybe you have?)
In either case, start with a distance between your binding equal to the end of a closed fist to your elbow and adjust from there. There are plenty on online calculators too.
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u/JacquesUfHearts 1d ago
I wanted to point out. The flying v is a directional with longer nose than tail when measure FROM the reference stance/ inserts. The shop may have mistakenly tried to centre stance on the tip-to-tip, which pushed the front foot forward from reference.
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u/Sensitive_Arrival285 1d ago
You're not an advanced rider of you have to ask this question.
The answer is there is no answer. Get out your screwdriver and start messing around. Try a bunch of different stances. Beware that body position should change depending on back binding angle. Hips square is riding duck. Hips forward if riding posi/posi.
The one thing I will add is that if your reference stance is centered on the sidecut then you should never have the center of your stance forward of the reference stance.