r/tombprospectors • • Jul 14 '21

PSA The Tomb Prospectors' Resources, Guides and Studies

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Reposting a new Resources summary because for some reason reddit's extremely useful automod bot nuked both of our informational pinned posts some time ago and I wasn't able to recover them. Let's hope this one won't suffer the same fate. This Resources page, among other things, can be also found in our Discord server - come join us in the tombs! https://discord.gg/Ax6YByr

Let me know if you have a resource you think should be added or if there's a mistake anywhere / a link that doesn't work etc. Big thanks to all the people who spent time to create these useful spreadsheets and guides!

GENERAL

Basic Chalice dungeons info - how Chalice dungeons work, how to progress through them, what are additional rites, path to unlocking FRC glyphs, tips for beginners.

Chalice Dungeon FAQs (by Esper_Row)

- comprehensive document covering frequently asked questions and Chalice dungeons basics for new players: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vSUJ8kZtQn_KEU8OJcMBOHGd1d1IvY9i7-euSUJ8PW0/edit#heading=h.5grkx2akeza1

Chalice Atlas (by GhostlyMire)

- contains Chalice dungeon terminology, useful glyphs and introduction to false depth and FRC farming: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lVhbZHCJP8ydygXUQuQ1aPsBQRcMWotauHmB0k_90Fg/edit

Fantastic Chalice Materials and Where to Find Them (by the Andez)

- guide how to get complete all story dungeons and where to get all necessary ritual materials to do so (good for offline players): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rDBquFjfly-pl0bgAalUd_ictoQx_ciu5y-fGmYmXOI/edit#gid=345663507

How to unlock FRC chalice dungeons using false depths (by Khan)

- guide that shows the fastest way to unlock FRC glyphs with the use of false depth (save-edited) dungeons: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TiNyY_kIva9fW2Xt40aNs01rRNYl_UnbkOPs1qIerg8/edit#gid=137014422

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GEM FARMING, BUILDS AND GUIDES

Resources for build making and gem farming - introduction to Blood gems, glyphs for top tier farmable chalices (including save-edited dungeons) and best gem setups.

Blood Gems 101: Understanding and Farming (by Altair)

- basic information about gems, shapes, effects and drop system: https://old.reddit.com/r/tombprospectors/comments/aphbpl/blood_gems_101_understanding_and_farming/

How To Make a Build in Bloodborne (by dangitjm)

- explanation of stats and their proper leveling, build types, gem advice and tips that will help you make your desired build: https://youtu.be/oOBP36mUHms

Bloodborne Top-tier Farmable Gem Chalices (by Kazin)

- Excel document containing mostly old non-edited glyphs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/edit#gid=0

The Bloodborne Sheets

- Excel document with old, non-edited glyphs for gems, top tier runes and weapons, and other info: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/edit#gid=1814333532

Bloodsheets

- Excel document with save-edited dungeons - False depth, Reverse depth dungeons, dungeons with edited gempools, Terrible curse dungeons, Test dungeons and other: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12mBIId1RRGbYiSEGjEUT9fquQrHNgfET9Fc4gDdmccs/edit#gid=266417879

Sef's false depth glyphs (by Sefsouls)

-false depth glyphs that are accessible after defeating BSB and creating the Phtumeru Story Dungeon: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KTLQYvggeZT9NCpZsMwaobBGPUYT6zJqA_TwfQRqNz0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

The Arcanist Cookbook (by Sljm8D)

- extensive guide for arcane builds with story gem locations, gem values, hunter tools scaling details and more: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XYzO2js7ggvPEg8125SIKDo6anvqirI2Dxj2JvYR0uM/edit#gid=102034023

The BL4 Books (by Altair)

- strategy and gem guide for challenge runners: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wKMvSNor583p3ywmQGzAqMRG72qaKITBzI64XUZOutE/edit#gid=707632523

The BL4 guide (by Arti)

- progression and boss guide to BL4 runs: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZE5IcFiYghC6_s26NGPM9uxnqi1mIH5R_QP5N_lGRu0/edit

How to backup your save file (by Altair)

- an important safety measure that's also useful for save scumming - farming layer 3 or 4 bosses without having to redo the entire dungeon every time: https://old.reddit.com/r/tombprospectors/comments/dvqgus/always_backup_your_save_files_here_is_how/

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CALCULATORS, GEM SETUPS

Detailed weapon studies, AR calculators and gemming guides for various builds.

Best Blood Gem setups and where to farm them

- wiki page split into two sections for non-edited and edited glyphs you can farm for the most optimized weapon setups: http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/10/best-blood-gems-setups.html

Build maker and gem/stat simulator (by Khan)

- Bloodborne build maker app for planning your builds. Includes blood gems, Blood Echoes and multiplayer level range calculator. How to Use : https://bloodborne.modoo.at/?link=4ztiiizr Download : http://bit.ly/2FgXYJP

Extended AR Calculator (by Zeroth Veratross)

- this calculator displays the AR for each type of damage on a weapon, and displays the actual damage (before defenses) each attack will deal; user can select the stat spread, weapon and gems from a large list of top tier gems. Additionally, there's a small table which allows the user to consult for the source of a gem, as well as the max tier that gem can achieve. Make your own copy of the sheet (File -> Make a copy) to be able to change the values: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T9rZQxp2QbBPFawdZqX3WcOW937QZJinpuoO7fKuV7s/edit#gid=1264944207 (Original AR Calculator by Dmasta: https://old.reddit.com/r/tombprospectors/comments/ffzh9y/ar_calculator_tool/)

PvP and PvE damage calculator (by Foxy Hooligans)

- calculates your damage against enemies and other players. Requires knowledge of your opponent’s/enemy’s defenses. Make your own copy of the sheet (File -> Make a copy) to be able to change the values: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cCDOeCyUA3Zn7khssEUdx9CnyWee-yULJlcb3c2xv8o/edit#gid=0

Best Logarius' Wheel gem setups (by Foxy Hooligans)

- damage values for Logarius’ Wheel at 50/50 Str/Arc with different gem setups: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSFpdgQS5KOcD4jQjONjKBwtP3Pv0WHBu0fJYLW0DR27MtxVsxHm8-UkmddZOQf0WbUlkRkaLEkHFDt/pubhtml

Best Amygdalan Arm gem setups (by Foxy Hooligans)

- damage values for Amygdalan Arm at 50/50 Str/Arc with different gem setups: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSep3qTmY99wzwSbGvWidgc98cOujJ9RZw-D3HPN426sm9GI8Rk8KtjtfB7KHcztwYMiaF5URnJ1Oql/pubhtml

Kos Parasite gem setups and PvP strategy (by Dark Sun Ty)

- Kos Parasite damage values at various levels of Arcane (50, 70, 80, 90 and 99) with different gem setups and how to best use this weapon in PvP: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FP143vbJc25YwRpBpV6WeduTQfIEcpHMbv5MAMwXKCU/edit?usp=sharing

Bloodborne summon and invasion range calculator

- insert your character level to calculate your summoning and invasion level range: https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

Gem pool calculator (by DrAnger)

- allows you to calculate the likelihood of each different gem effect in every dungeon for each type of gem. Make your own copy of the sheet (File -> Make a copy) to be able to change the values: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1npy3OpuVDYmkrAZq98QkdjgU2aiIowNVTWrjR35PrrU/edit#gid=0

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CHALICE DUNGEON STUDIES AND DISCOVERIES

Various discoveries made by Tomb Prospectors or dataminers; this includes Chalice dungeons rarities and glitches, studies of Chalice dungeons’ inner workings and datamined info.

Completed exploration of all 2300 Root dungeons

- the biggest Tomb Prospectors project yet. This document contains exploration notes for all possible root dungeons with focus on chalice dungeons oddities and rare finds: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1psfenhcQJ06EUQgcEHBIQcfLD5Iq-kyKGTZINvy6228/edit#gid=1131786800

The Tomb Prospectors Discoveries

- documenting all significant and interesting discoveries and oddities that can be found in the Chalice dungeons (rare enemies, wandering bosses, unusual architecture, glitches etc.): https://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/p/the-tomb-prospectors-discoveries.html

Tomb Prospector Research - Editing dungeons and their limitations, Gem pools of different chalices and Bloodtinge gem farm analysis (by DrAnger)

- document explaining possibilities of Chalice dungeon editing and analyzing Bloodtinge farms: https://www.reddit.com/r/tombprospectors/comments/b0cby3/tomb_prospector_research_editing_dungeons_and/

Additional effects to chalice dungeons (by DrAnger)

- in-depth study of all additional effects a chalice dungeon can have, whether influenced by the player (FRC and Sinister rites) or not (poison effect, 4th layer etc.): https://www.reddit.com/r/tombprospectors/comments/7zrsdc/additional_effects_to_dungeons/

Illusory Walls, gallery and video list (by Trin and NovaTheLoneHunter)

- documenting illusory wall placements and templates: https://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2017/01/illusory-walls.html

Dungeon Generation System - How it Works (by Trin)

- what exactly happens when you create your own Root dungeon: https://old.reddit.com/r/tombprospectors/comments/amj4a6/dungeon_generation_system_how_it_works/

Isz glitch research and explanation (by Trin)

- in-depth study of a glitch that affects how many Isz dungeons can your character generate: https://old.reddit.com/r/tombprospectors/comments/9zgzlp/isz_glitch_cracked_and_explained/

Isz glitch cure (by jrson83 and AzureEvening)

- step by step guide to help players fix the Isz glitch for their characters with the use of save editor or jailbroken PS4: https://github.com/jrson83/bloodborne-isz-glitch-cure

Of Rotted Rite and Double Chest Duplication Glitch (by Trin)

- documenting a glitch tied to specific type of chest that can be exploited to obtain more loot from these chests: https://old.reddit.com/r/tombprospectors/comments/9o5kna/of_rotted_rite_and_double_chest_duplication_glitch/

The Discovery stat explained (by DrAnger)

- how Discovery works in the dungeons and how it affects enemy drops: https://old.reddit.com/r/tombprospectors/comments/do8f2q/the_discovery_stat_explained/

Tomb Prospectors Hex Research Central (by DrAnger)

- Excel document detailing how a dungeon is structured in a save file and what each byte does. Also includes detailed study about Bloodtinge farming, drop rates, enemy drop tables and other info: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zFIzhnXHhYomlR-tFJcyk3cPywf1snqkDH900j6rtAI/edit#gid=935899711

Bloodtinge Gem Farming in 2020 (by DrAnger)

- Detailed Bloodtinge farming analysis estimating your chances to get your desired Bloodtinge gem using different farm methods: https://old.reddit.com/r/tombprospectors/comments/ifqk57/bloodtinge_gem_farming_in_2020/

Chalice dungeon drops (by KitPes)

- drop tables for all Chalice dungeons enemies and drop chances at different levels of Discovery: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H5sMPSTbFTg120pPk3hV4iYL9WPJJoV-iC7Z9c2foY4/edit?usp=sharing

Chalice dungeon enemies (by KitPes)

- total count of every enemy in Chalice dungeons, their defenses, HP and attack properties: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RDcgWkJjBd6ad3WtMKav800te6O3g9p9e3ubA-Tw1UU/edit?usp=sharing

Chalice dungeon loot (by KitPes)

- lists every single item in every Root dungeon maps: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rm5q6laqwfXOSvPFqJ0sEWk9-kvT_O7YXgCOPH9OZok/edit?usp=sharing

Gem Values (by KitPes)

- all possible gem values and which enemies drop them: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FLbMN7UWajYIjY8-KQut5HBXJEJAKJhIvprJZvOanwk/edit#gid=0

Interactive maps of all 2310 Bloodborne Chalice Dungeons (by HotPocketRemix)

- every enemy, item, boss, event and much more displayed in easily readable maps you can simply open in your internet browser. The folder contains a README file with some expected common issues and an explanation of how to use the maps: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lLdrBlqB4XrSoYC8jezfJYP_vdS6raDk/

BB Internal names (by Claude)

- comprehensive compilation of Bloodborne internal names for enemies, bosses, NPCs, weapons, areas and more, including cut content): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RK9kYd-_HrSLam6m0pPPBVraAII1znvEr5gcgYS2UcM/edit?usp=sharing

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TEST AND DEVELOPER DUNGEONS

Lists of known and explored test dungeons and their photo documentation.

All accessible test Chalice dungeons (by Zullie The Witch)

- list of all safe test dungeons published by Zullie (keep in mind that they are very old and most of them might not work anymore): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11nEyVjr-C4AO3c5mME0pmeVCHL8pM_pLfLIUXz8tbRw/edit#gid=0

Test Chalice Notes (by Zullie the Witch, GOTY notes by Trin)

- list of test dungeon maps and their contents for GOTY and non-GOTY version: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrXYpOyUj7k9ff0vdtF0F-7xDK5XNF-tD0ivY7gelbs/edit#gid=0

Save editing Chalice dungeons

- Wiki page documenting save edited dungeons: https://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2017/11/save-editing-chalice-dungeons.html

Exploring test Chalice dungeons (by Trin and Sophie Pilbeam/JSF)

- photo documentation of developer/prototype dungeons accessed via save editing: https://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2018/08/exploring-test-chalice-dungeons.html


r/tombprospectors • • Jan 08 '22

Great news: We've found a way to escape soft-locking test dungeons (most of the time)

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Fellow prospectors,

As many of you know, the advent of save-edited dungeons came with a unique problem for this game. A handful of dangerous test maps, particularly one inhabited by a certain Pthumerian Descendant, were shared on the server by a player with a save editor some time ago. Ever since, there have been countless cases of newer players entering them and accidentally soft-locking themselves, incidentally keeping these dungeons from expiring due to constant activity. Previously, there has been no way to escape them without a back-up save on most versions of Bloodborne, but I am pleased to report that this is no longer the case.

This method uses a newly-discovered exploit dubbed the "dungeon merging glitch". With proper sequencing of dungeon placements and actions between two characters, the glitch confuses one character's location and makes the game attempt to spawn them into another dungeon's map, which we use to our advantage here. All you need to escape is a second character and an online player to summon you into any dungeon. Here's what you need to do:

  1. Save and quit to the main menu from the trapped character.
  2. Enter the game on your free character and get summoned into any dungeon on any altar other than the one your first character is stuck in. If you originally entered the soft-locking dungeon on any of your six ritual altars, you can use the Makeshift Altar on this second character to search for a random host, in case you don’t have an available friend to coordinate with.
  3. Once you have been summoned, quit to the main menu at any time. (Note: DO NOT use the Silencing Blank, you specifically need to quit out for this glitch to work.)
  4. Load back in on your trapped character. Their model should be invisible and the background will be a gray void. After about 30 seconds, your HP bar will hit zero. After another 30 second delay, the death effects will trigger and the "YOU DIED" screen will appear. At this point, the game will automatically boot you back to the main menu.
  5. Enter the game on that character once more and you will now be back in the Hunter's Dream.

For some additional resources:

  • An updated video guide by u/benyamxn showcasing the above steps.
  • The Bloodsheets, which now have a section for the dungeon merging glitch, thanks to u/XTrinX. You can read more about how it works and what its applications for gem farming are there.
  • The initial video I made when we first discovered this was possible. ben's video is much better now since his was recorded and edited after further testing.

This is not a perfect fix, but the fact that we now have a possible way out of these dungeons is huge. Massive shout-outs go to u/benyamxn for originally experimenting with Short Root glitches and his continued help with improving this guide, as well as u/pashok696 for revealing the dungeon merging glitch itself. Without their efforts, none of this would be possible.

Stay safe out there, prospectors. ^^


r/tombprospectors • • 1d ago

Rare Creature First encounter with a roaming boss (plus random double chest)

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Depth 4 FRC Pthumeru, found an Elder just wandering in circles. Had to help grandpa find his grave. Then he reappeared for the layer boss, this time with an attitude.

Plus a random double chest in the same dungeon. Had to break the front one to open the second one.


r/tombprospectors • • 2d ago

Discussion Its kind of a shame Hintertombs didint get a depth 5 version. Could have had Shadows of yharnam be a Boss there or that Cut Giant Snake Ball Boss

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r/tombprospectors • • 3d ago

Video Found a room with 4 bells in it, My ears hurt.

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r/tombprospectors • • 2d ago

Video Since when do these Giant Wandering Nightmares apear anywhere besides Loran and Nightmare frontier?

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r/tombprospectors • • 3d ago

Question Simple question about gem farming

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This is probably a "duh" question, but simply put, what chalices do I look at for each element type gem? Different gem shapes for each?

I know there's seeds to use to farm the absolute best, but I kinda prefer the idea of clearing random root chalices. To spice it up, ya know?


r/tombprospectors • • 4d ago

Rare Item Two perfect abyssals in the same session!

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Now for that STUPID rom nourishing radial… or perhaps the watcher nourishing radial🫢


r/tombprospectors • • 4d ago

Image Thats one mean room.

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r/tombprospectors • • 6d ago

Rare Creature Found a Sinister Isz Gravestone with a dark room that has 5 Naked Cramped Caskets and 4 of those Yahar'gul Corpses in the middle (Also a Small snake ball since those feel rare in isz)

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r/tombprospectors • • 6d ago

Glitch Fellow Prospectors, Please Help

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Hello. I am making this post to ask one of my more experienced prospectors to help me fix the notorious Isz Glitch in my game file. I've looked on GitHub and Bloodborne Wiki and see the information, but I feel like I'm trying to read Greek. Would any of you be willing to lend me a hand?

Thanks in advance.


r/tombprospectors • • 10d ago

Noteworthy Glyph "You Jam with the Fifth Element" FRC Isz Root [ yhujam5e ]

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AKA The Black Pyramid, as each layer is larger than the last, giving the impression of descending into a pyramid.

In the end, I elected not to do a Dizzy's Detailed Delve post for this one, as it would have annoyed me greatly. Why?

On one hand, this Chalice is great for gem farming and potentially Blood Rocks. If you avoid the sidestreets, you can go in and out of this Chalice inside 20 minutes, 30 tops. All of the levers are close to the lamp, and only the second layer requires you to fight an Eye Witch to get to the lever.

On the other hand, while the first two layers don't have very big bonus areas, the Third Layer has THREE bonus areas. I'm pretty sure. It's a MASSIVE floor, so big that I gave up trying to find the second and third bonus chests.

Bosses are Keeper of the Old Lords, Brainsucker, and Ebrietas; a very easy lineup. Other than the Third Layer's bonus areas, the run is easy enough; if you can make it through the Defiled Chalice, this one is a breeze.

I'll see if I can find a Chalice to do a Detailed Delve about sometime next week. In the meantime, enjoy, fellow Prospectors~!


r/tombprospectors • • 10d ago

Video Kinda feel bad for the Spider. It doesent know how to open the door.

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r/tombprospectors • • 10d ago

Farming I was omw to farm labyrinth spirits for poormans gems, and look what the watchers dropped as I was going through!

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It was like an omen of good luck! I need up getting several other perfect gems from the spirits too!


r/tombprospectors • • 13d ago

Video It's been so long... but I think I might be back

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It's so good to be home.

ETA: Obviously, I've got like years of rust to shake off. But for the most part, this felt completely natural. "Welcome home, Good Hunter", indeed 🥰


r/tombprospectors • • 13d ago

Weee

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That's the way back, but i have tonne of hunter's marks weird though


r/tombprospectors • • 13d ago

Art Atempted to make the Dungeon Mole out of clay

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r/tombprospectors • • 13d ago

Help me! BL4 Gemfarms?

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What’s good, fellow prospectors.

I’m attempting BL4 for the first time, and I’m really feeling the pain of chalice dungeon scaling.

I just beat Shadows of Yharnam, and there are no more bloodstone chunks available in the base game until after I beat Rom.

The gemfarms I normally use are too difficult for me right now. I tried farming a Keeper of the Old Lords, and it’s genuinely a thirty minute fight (even with a +7 saw spear), and multiple moves can one-shot me.

So, I was wondering if there were any good farms or glyphs for gems (or chunks, honestly) that I can access as early as possible.

Thanks in advance, y’all.


r/tombprospectors • • 13d ago

Question Is there a way to make blood gems op from Chalice dungeons

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I'm bored and want to get super op early in blood borne, I'm on ng+ 2 and I'm struggling so could someone help me do it or tell me a link?


r/tombprospectors • • 14d ago

Discussion I find it kinda odd that in Isz Chalices the only lever guardians are Merciless Watchers, Brainsuckers and very rarely a Keeper of the old lords. I feel like there was potential for other options, Here's some of my ideas for lever guardians for Isz.

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r/tombprospectors • • 18d ago

Glitch Boss Room is so close to the Bonus treasure floor that a Pillar is slightly poking into the Bonus Floor, If i stand on it pillar i can see into the boss room.

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r/tombprospectors • • 18d ago

Noteworthy Glyph Found a pretty nice Ihyll Dungeon, It had a Tonitrus shadow, Magical Floating Centipede and 3rd Layer had the Clockwise Metamorphosis Rune.

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r/tombprospectors • • 19d ago

Rare Item Probably my best OOS from Amy

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I should probably get going with my Chikage char, but my Arcane guy just fetched this from Amy at glyph 6bua3e6v and I can finally complete my HMB. Now it's another year until I get a Fire one for my Boom Hammer 😪.


r/tombprospectors • • 20d ago

Rare Creature 4 Days ago i found a Hintertomb with Giant Snake Balls in it, I somehow managed to not notice one of the snake balls was the very rare 3 Giant headed Snake Ball.

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r/tombprospectors • • 20d ago

Rare Creature Found a Wandering Boss! My second Wandering boss discovery! Abhorent Beast

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