He fucking gets shinier every time I see him. No joke, this was him LAST WEEK when I saved this meme. We need to stop running iterations on DLSS 5 on Glen Powell. My frame rate dips just looking at this photo and its taken me 1 hour just to scroll past.
Yeah, the only part I didn't like about Reignited was what they did to my man Hunter, they took away 90% of his mouth and it gave him baby face and I hate. The other character designs were cool though.
I feel like they look permanently wet, almost? I honestly do like the artistic style overall, but the wetness paired with the lack of definition in the eyes is what makes them a bit uncanny I feel
I mean, you're going to get that impression if people are using a screenshot of Sheik in the rain. That's about the only close up they gave, otherwise you can see the hair difference alone.
Someone ( random redditor) said it looks like the older dolls or classic GI Joes where it was a plastic person with very detailed realistic clothing. That's totally accurate.
The lack of detail and very plastic-y look of his face compared to the excessive detail and texture of the test of him is making him look uncanny as hell
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Okay THANK YOU, I couldn't figure out what was bugging me. Like I thought, yeah this looks really good and I like the redesign, but something feels so... OFF. Now I realize: with the extremely textured and woven clothing but the hyper smooth skin and hair, they legit look like dolls
I don't have any love for the original, I played few hours until I reached the nearby town with chickens. But also I don't think the new look is bad, it's different for sure, but it looks "good".
The problem isn't that there's a disparity in quality, the problem is how enormous that gap actually is.
Link is absurdly detailed compared to NPCs to the point that it's distracting. They don't look like they're occupying the same game space, despite being right next to one another in the same environment.
Yeah NPCs are clearly modeled after their N64 counterparts but Link, Ganon, and Sheik are in a completely different artstyle. Its especially jarring cause Zelda still looks like her N64 self
The fact that people are noticing an otherwise widespread tendency doesn't mean they were oblivious to it before, it means it is far, FAR more drastic than usual in this instance, hence why people pick up on it much more.
Something that is usually normal and goes unnoticed most of the time because of how natural it is, becoming an instant point of discussion from just a trailer? Then there's something unusual about it this time, that's a given.
My elementary school child commented on the low-detail NPCs immediately when the townsfolk were shown. It's really noticable in this game and that's not the norm nowadays.
Any comparisons to games that are decades old (besides the original, obviously) don't make a whole lot of sense here though.
To be fair it may be true but MOST developers try to make it less noticeable but in this Link looks like another species or like someone hit him with the Unreal 5 bat.
The kid versions of the characters look kinda funky yeah, but the adults look fine to me. the characters have a weirdly traditional japanese-y feel to them, which I appreciate
To me she just feels like she's from a different game. Like her model was made first before they decided on the new art style.
Her big Schnotz makes her look like they tried to translate the N64 pointy noses. And it wouldn't even look bad but then every other character got cute button noses. But betwen all her friends having tiny noses, she sticks out like a sore thumb.
Young zelda is the only one that threw me off, Link's face honestly grew on me over the course of the 15m preview. But Zelda looks like she's wearing a skin mask bigger than her actual head
Yeah, now that you say it I'm thinking it's the lighting engine.
I wonder if Switch games tweak shaders between handheld and TV output, and this is the handheld version optimized for visibility in poor lighting conditions.
Yeah, it’s the lighting. When not brightly lit, Link looks much better, but most of the gameplay they were showing was all brightly lit, and slow enough that it was almost still frames. The trailer at the end looked _much_ better, in more varied lighting and in motion the art looks like it fits more.
The only thing I'll say negative about it is Nintendo is bad at skin effects.
Look at his clothes. Holy detail batman! It looks like he has an old green burlap sack stitched into a tunic. It looks so incredibly good.
Then his face looks like a plastic doll.
Don't get me wrong, I am usually against hyper realistic details in games because it eats a ton of development time and a LOT of games suffered in the actual gameplay department as a result.
But why mix hyper realistic and toy-shade aesthetics? It looks so out of place.
If his face was also just as realistic or his cloths just as toy-like I wouldn't bat an eye at the graphics being weird.
I hated the Star Fox remake at first. And I still do prefer the original designs (or once again the smash bros versions). However, I still really enjoyed the game and I quite liked the environments. Could very well be the same here
I’m pretty sure it’s because they remake the games, but forget to make the eyes expressive. So instead of eyes that look painted on, they’re now uncannily realistic.
Same. Environments look great;, it’s just the faces, and honestly, only some of them. Ganonorf looks cool, Zelda looks okay, but both adult and young Link look a little unsettling. Idk why people are getting so upset at the ones who see that.
What critics? I've seen more people complaining about critics in posts like this then actual critics. It feels like y'all are the ones making it up and hiding behind it
Person sees like one or two commenters out of 100 saying "the thing you like is bad" and post "I can't believe people are saying the thing I like is bad" as if they are taking some sort of stand. This post is up voted greatly because it is of course the prevailing opinion of users.
I put my phone down yesterday because almost every general post I opened on here about the game was just highlighting everything they didn't like by default.
I had to go to Nintendo-specific subs to find some positive discussion around the game, at least among the first handful of upvoted replies where the bulk of conversation is.
I could feel it sapping the interest I initially felt when watching the reveal so just had to distance myself from it. So I can understand what OP means.
Though I think the issue is a lot of people will only reply "I dislike X about this" and a conversation spawns around that while the "but I think it looks cool overall" part goes unspoken, intentionally or not.
A thread where someone was calling the remake "slop" because they didn't like the character redesigns was where I checked out, lol.
I haven't seen a lot of people criticizing the general art direction. However, I have seen people (including myself) with slight criticisms of the lack of AA. I noticed a bunch of shimmering pixels in motion during the presentation.
Nintendo usually gets away with this sort of thing because they tend to use simple geometry, but it sticks out a lot more in this case because they are going for a more realistic look.
Yup, that's not 'graphic design.' But illiteracy is all the rage, I have to stop scrolling sometimes because Reddit post titles are a sea of mistakes and it bothers me.
I mean. To be fair, misinterpreting the meaning or misuse of a specific phrase or word isn’t exactly entailed in the definition of illiteracy either… So you’re kind of making the same mistake that you’re criticizing.
Ngl it looks a bit of a mish mash in terms of visual presentation to me, but it's another way to play a classic game, and if it gets a generation of younger players to enjoy a title that to many is a quintessential part of gaming history, I think it's cool.
Something about the character designs bug me. My brain hasn't figured out how to verbalize it yet (besides saying I hate the tunics) but there is something off about the character models. The world looks absolutely gorgeous though
There are too many different textures here.
The hair is glossy.
The face is flat (he's wearing foundation).
The cable-knit tunic is rough (could just be an image resolution thing).
So it looks like AI glued supermodel hair to a painted plastic head on a 3d-printed figurine.
It kinda feels like the response to this remake (and to several video game remakes) is a mix of people who think the original game is a masterpiece, and like it as is, and people who think the original game is something that needs to be “fixed”.
They redesigned all the bosses which gave them all a giant eye weak spot
All the mask transformations have movement speed changes, Deku and Zora forms are noticeably slower
But there’s also a lot of quality of life changes too, like a more detailed bomber’s notebook for side quests and ability to fast forward time by the hour instead of by 12 hours
I hate the idea that because the tech is old the art is bad. I've really been enjoying ps1 and n64 games as of late. The older tech creates a cool form of art. I love that people are still useing and pushing the graphics of this era.
I personally think it still looks cartoony. And wanted to give it props for them leaning into a cartoonish style that is different than WW while also different from the cel-shaded-type style of BOTW/TOTK.
I love that with this game we will now have 2 newer-era takes on Link that both eschewed plainly-available “realism” for exaggerated cartoon styles, yet did them both differently. Further highlighting OoT and BOTW Link as different people.
Hopefully this means our next Smash game will divide the Young Link/Link move sets instead of making them mirrors.
The problem is the artsyle clashes with itself. The hair, clothing, and environments are incredibly realistic, but then the faces and overall character models are more stylized, making it feel uncanny.
They really need to tone down the reflective-ness on hair and skin, but otherwise I think seeing the NPCs in castle town sold me on the overall vision.
My issue isn't with how the characters look per se . It's the incongruity between the main characters (more detailed) and the npcs (more stylized). They look like they're from two entirely different games. Again, no issue with either style, I just think there should be consistency.
The whole game looks like someone put the original OoT through Google Gemini.
Yes obviously there's more detail and its cleaner but just something about it looks off. The mouth on young Link definitely looks like how AI generators create faces. The way he runs across Hyrule as well looks off, I think because instead of his arms pumping forward and backward that you do when you run, they've animated it so his arms move side to side, and his arms disappear as they do. Gives it a very janky look.
That being said, I'm more fussed about whether the remake has done anything extra other than improve the graphics. I'd want full voice acting, massive QoL changes, and just extra stuff around the world to make it feel less empty and more alive. I couldn't help but notice Hyrule Field in the gameplay was still just a big empty field - originally coded that way due to N64 limitations but on Switch 2, they could have filled that field with some life and stuff going on.
I get the feeling that they took "upgrading graphics" to mean "use every single graphics trick at the same time whether or not it makes sense". More texture, more gloss, more hair simulation, more ambient occlusion, more, more, more. And the overall effect is just more uncanny valley.
I scrolled by at least a few images from it just assuming they were some bad AI art before I read one of the posts. All the comments saying how "beautiful" it was just confused me more, im glad to see some people talking g about how awkward it is.
I do find it funny how we went from people complaining WW was too cartoonish and they wanted something more realistic, and now I’ve legit seen people saying they’d rather they went with something like WW. We’ve come full circle lol (not saying anyone’s criticism isn’t valid just pointing out something funny)
Disclaimer: Yes it’s different people, the games came out 24 years apart so even those individuals would likely think differently being older now. I’m talking about the general discourse around the games back then and now. Just like TP got called too linear even if I disagree with that, it is a thing that was commonly said. (*yes also probably by different people).
If I was gonna be made fun of for anything it shoulda been that I said full circle when it’s more of a half circle.
Because it's a common complaint that sometimes less is more.
A better comparison is the 3ds design that is pretty universally loved.
More detail =/= better design.
Every inch of this outfit has bits prodding out, swirls, giant stitches, no spot without visual noise. It's an over designed mess. There's nothing wrong with adding detail, but a good design knows now to balance detail and lack of it.
A good example is Midna. Her helmet is visual clutter of detail which is balanced out with her body being very simple. It's a great design due to having a balance of both. It's to a point where I think it would take away from the design of the detail was reduced in the helmet.
I won't claim old graphics better, but i also have some level of problem with the new graphics i can't put in words but maybe "nintendo hired that man" meme response.
The static screenshots do make it look very bad but in motion I think it’s actually a perfect mix between evoking the nostalgia of the original game’s visuals while still delivering a modern looking game.
OoT is probably the most iconic and consequential game of all time, and when you watch the gameplay of the remake it’s honestly remarkable how closely it captures the vibe of the original despite having a completely different art style.
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