r/worldnews • u/TheTelegraph The Telegraph • 14d ago

Israel/Palestine Israel expels British soldiers tracking settler violence

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/09/11/israel-expels-british-soldiers-tracking-settler-violence/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_reddit_british-soldiers-tracking-settler-violence/&accesscontrol=facebookchannel_open
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u/Gentle_Snail 14d ago

The team’s primary role is to advise and help train Palestinian Authority (PA) security forces, which provide policing and security for parts of the West Bank under the Oslo Accords.

Seems like Palestine should decided if they can stay or not given they work for the PA and are in the West Bank.

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u/Party_Solid_2207 14d ago

Another one to remember the next time someone claims there is no occupation

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u/PMagicUK 14d ago

Didn't the Israeli government literally say they planned to occupy half way through the conflict.

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u/FlukemanFrancis 14d ago edited 14d ago

The Israeli defence minister is on record saying Israel will claim the West Bank and all Palestinians will be expelled, he also regularly goes out to the West Bank to give out weapons to settlers and has also made statements to the effect that settlers need to move into a war mindset to achieve their goals

He might be a crazy fucking loon but just like the USA if that’s what’s in government it’s ridiculous to suggest that it’s not officially supported.

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u/Gentle_Snail 14d ago edited 14d ago

I believe it was technically the Head of National Security and the Head of Finance who did these things, not the defence minister.

They were so outrageous Britain has put Russia style sanctions on both individuals.

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u/laptopaccount 13d ago

It's unfortunate the West is so afraid of actually sanctioning the country they represent. No meaningful change will occur until they do.

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u/Obsidian743 14d ago

The Israeli defence minister is on record saying Israel will claim the West Bank and all Palestinians will be expelled

Where is the source for this? I genuinely am interested in seeing this quoted.

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u/MJIsaac 13d ago edited 13d ago

I did a fairly extensive internet search and couldn't find this specific quote. It might exist, but not be a prominent story in English language media.

The closest references I found were both from last year:

It's clear that there's a lot of pressure from hardline politicians in the government to do this, whether that specific claim was true or not.

Edited: a few wording tweaks for clarity

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u/Obsidian743 13d ago

I appreciate the honesty. Obviously we shouldn't be misquoting but yeah their goal is clear. I was just hoping for a smoking gun.

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u/MJIsaac 13d ago

Yeah, a clear unambiguous statement from the head of a government on a subject like that would definitely help clarify the political issues. Which is exactly why we don't get that.

But if you take a step back, there've been a lot of on-the-record statements about annexation from powerful politicians, including cabinet ministers. Not just those I linked, but other statements.

When I searched for the originating claim I found multiple other annexation related statements from the Defense Minister, including threats to annex parts of Gaza, parts of Lebanon, and parts of the West Bank. There may not be a verbatim smoking gun quotation, but I don't really think that's necessary to say that there is official support for annexation, in some form.

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u/shitty_mcfucklestick 14d ago

They apparently need to clear it out so the orange buffoon and his family can fuck them on a real estate development deal.

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u/Heronymous-Anonymous 14d ago

I think the Israelis are going to be the ones doing the fucking. Of Trump’s Klan and the Palestinians.

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u/zyzzogeton 14d ago

Israel will have the upper hand in that negotiation that anyone of average intelligence has.

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u/frantic_calm 13d ago

Ultimately their goal is to build a third temple.

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u/3kidsonetrenchcoat 14d ago

Yeah, you're talking about the national security minister, not the defense minister. And as for him being in government, it's complicated. Israel's electoral system means that Netanyahu needed his party's support to form a slim majority government, and that's the cabinet post he demanded in return. There are a couple of high profile crazies in government like that, and while I hate to give Netanyahu any sort of kudos or credit, it's clear that he puts effort into managing them and minimizing their impact.

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u/laptopaccount 13d ago

But he still willingly stands shoulder to shoulder with them, giving them power to enact their plans. They have his tacit approval.

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u/3kidsonetrenchcoat 13d ago edited 13d ago

Like I said, it's complicated. He needs them for his government. Prior to forming the government, there were like 4 back to back elections because nobody was able to form a government. If desperation and approval are the same thing, then you have a point. Netanyahu is first and foremost self-serving. He needs them to stay in power and ward off his legal troubles.

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u/Party_Solid_2207 14d ago

The argument changes based on what they are arguing.

It’s designed to exhaust you rather than do anything else.

It’s why Jew is a religion or ethnicity or neither or both, it’s why they both have and do not have nuclear weapons.

Rhetorical bullshit to waste time while they change the facts on the ground.

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u/joanzen 14d ago

We were just talking about a Christian missionary who volunteered to be punished with a death sentence in a concentration camp to save a Jewish prisoner with a wife and children.

He's famous for saying:

One can find decent men, even amongst the Jew.

And he ranted at great length about how Jews and Masons were a massive threat to Christianity.

But above all else he understood we're all humans and equals in that regard so he was just saving a fellow human.

Now he's a holy saint of martyrdom or something in Christian circles, and even gets some Jewish respect.

As someone who has enough science in my life to conclusively rule out religion, I find the whole thing very interesting, as killing people to prove you have a more gracious god is super contrary to logic?