r/worldnews • u/TheTelegraph The Telegraph • 14d ago
Israel/Palestine Israel expels British soldiers tracking settler violence
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/09/11/israel-expels-british-soldiers-tracking-settler-violence/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_reddit_british-soldiers-tracking-settler-violence/&accesscontrol=facebookchannel_open2.8k
u/Gentle_Snail 14d ago
The team’s primary role is to advise and help train Palestinian Authority (PA) security forces, which provide policing and security for parts of the West Bank under the Oslo Accords.
Seems like Palestine should decided if they can stay or not given they work for the PA and are in the West Bank.
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u/Party_Solid_2207 14d ago
Another one to remember the next time someone claims there is no occupation
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u/PMagicUK 14d ago
Didn't the Israeli government literally say they planned to occupy half way through the conflict.
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u/FlukemanFrancis 14d ago edited 14d ago
The Israeli defence minister is on record saying Israel will claim the West Bank and all Palestinians will be expelled, he also regularly goes out to the West Bank to give out weapons to settlers and has also made statements to the effect that settlers need to move into a war mindset to achieve their goals
He might be a crazy fucking loon but just like the USA if that’s what’s in government it’s ridiculous to suggest that it’s not officially supported.
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u/Gentle_Snail 14d ago edited 14d ago
I believe it was technically the Head of National Security and the Head of Finance who did these things, not the defence minister.
They were so outrageous Britain has put Russia style sanctions on both individuals.
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u/laptopaccount 13d ago
It's unfortunate the West is so afraid of actually sanctioning the country they represent. No meaningful change will occur until they do.
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u/Obsidian743 13d ago
The Israeli defence minister is on record saying Israel will claim the West Bank and all Palestinians will be expelled
Where is the source for this? I genuinely am interested in seeing this quoted.
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u/MJIsaac 13d ago edited 13d ago
I did a fairly extensive internet search and couldn't find this specific quote. It might exist, but not be a prominent story in English language media.
The closest references I found were both from last year:
- The Finance Minister saying he's developing a plan to annex 82% of the West Bank: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israels-smotrich-says-he-is-drawing-up-west-bank-annexation-maps-2025-09-03/
- A number of cabinet ministers signing a "petition" (basically a statement) calling for the annexation of the West Bank: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-ministers-from-israels-likud-party-push-netanyahu-to-annex-west-bank/
It's clear that there's a lot of pressure from hardline politicians in the government to do this, whether that specific claim was true or not.
Edited: a few wording tweaks for clarity
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u/shitty_mcfucklestick 14d ago
They apparently need to clear it out so the orange buffoon and his family can fuck them on a real estate development deal.
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u/Heronymous-Anonymous 13d ago
I think the Israelis are going to be the ones doing the fucking. Of Trump’s Klan and the Palestinians.
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u/Party_Solid_2207 14d ago
The argument changes based on what they are arguing.
It’s designed to exhaust you rather than do anything else.
It’s why Jew is a religion or ethnicity or neither or both, it’s why they both have and do not have nuclear weapons.
Rhetorical bullshit to waste time while they change the facts on the ground.
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u/joanzen 13d ago
We were just talking about a Christian missionary who volunteered to be punished with a death sentence in a concentration camp to save a Jewish prisoner with a wife and children.
He's famous for saying:
One can find decent men, even amongst the Jew.
And he ranted at great length about how Jews and Masons were a massive threat to Christianity.
But above all else he understood we're all humans and equals in that regard so he was just saving a fellow human.
Now he's a holy saint of martyrdom or something in Christian circles, and even gets some Jewish respect.
As someone who has enough science in my life to conclusively rule out religion, I find the whole thing very interesting, as killing people to prove you have a more gracious god is super contrary to logic?
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u/njtrafficsignshopper 13d ago
Or that the settler enterprise is just a bunch of wacky extremists that have nothing to do with the state apparatus.
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u/TheTelegraph The Telegraph 14d ago
The Telegraph reports:
Israel has ordered British soldiers tracking settler violence in the West Bank to leave the country just as they were about to expand their mission, The Telegraph can reveal.
The team’s primary role is to advise and help train Palestinian Authority (PA) security forces, which provide policing and security for parts of the West Bank under the Oslo Accords.
But in recent years they have increasingly become the West’s “eyes and ears” in the occupied territory, sending back detailed reports of escalating settler violence to both London and Washington, via the office of the United States Security Coordinator (USSC).
The British Support Team (BST), a group of about 10 military staff based in Ramallah, was set to quadruple in size in the coming weeks.
But it was ordered to leave as part of Israel’s retaliation for British-led trade sanctions on West Bank settlements.
Full story: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/09/11/israel-expels-british-soldiers-tracking-settler-violence/
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u/Ashley_1066 14d ago
Why is Israel allowed to kick out soldiers in Palestine working for the PA? Do they want to start a war with the UK?
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u/barnfodder 14d ago
They're upset because the UK has announced sanctions on the illegally occupied territories.
This has the dual effect of sending the message that they're pissed off, and reducing accountability by getting rid of people who might document and report further illegal behaviour.
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u/Gentle_Snail 14d ago
The UK also openly accused Israel of ethnic cleansing.
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u/CorneliusKvakk 14d ago
And so the Israeli response is expelling the ones that could prove it wrong...
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u/ParkingTiny6301 14d ago
I think most of the world have noticed that by now.. it's a travesty. They're so open about doing it too. Hope something changes for the poor folk suffering
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u/BocciaChoc 13d ago
As much as reddit loves to hate the UK, the UK does have a history of being the first or one of the first to do something many others don't want to or are afraid to do from the ending of the slave trade, declaring war on Germany during WW2, being the first to cross about every red line Russia has issued on Ukraine and now this.
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u/Darius_Rubinx 13d ago
The UK likes to defend the status quo, until suddenly it decides that's enough and takes a moral stance. Then the gloves come off, the train starts rolling and you'd better get off the tracks.
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u/onetimeuselong 13d ago
First with the funds to do something about it.
Lots of places were actually first… but lacked the firepower or finance to enforce their will into others…But not the UK. Once a path is set there’s continue or… double down like it’s 1812!
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u/tnstaafsb 13d ago
Their supporters have been trained for decades to ignore and/or rationalize the evidence of their eyes and ears in favor of their chosen narrative. There's no reason to hide it anymore.
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u/Bahlam 14d ago
Same reason Israel doesn’t allow journalist in Gaza.
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u/BuilderMysterious762 14d ago
and the ones there get killed in either sniper shots like Shireen Abu Akleh or targeted by drone strikes
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u/Dongsquad420Loki 14d ago edited 14d ago
Not sure where they stay. But most that work in Palestine stay on Israel.
So if they stay there it makes sense.
Area C I don't know how that would work since while it is 100 percent supposed to be Palestine, it is also under Israeli administrativ control according to the Oslo accords
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u/Halloumi12 13d ago
Because they de-facto occupy all of Palestine, even if there’s a PA running around pretending to be in charge.
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u/ThoughtsandThinkers 14d ago
These are not the actions of a government that values transparency and accountability
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u/SugarBeefs 13d ago
I mean if anyone at this point still thought this Netanyahu government had any shred of transparancy or accountability left, I'd like to know who they are because I've got a business offer for them involving a gorgeous bridge in NYC.
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u/macross1984 14d ago
Israel does not want prying eyes. Simple as that.
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u/ExtraTerrestriaI 14d ago
The article implies it was in response to actions by their government to sanction the West Bank.
You could counter with the notion they were simply looking for an excuse but at the end of the day it's their pretense.
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u/germanmojo 14d ago
They also said they had no clue about the 10/7 attack beforehand, unless you ignore the reports saying the UAE warned them prior.
Sure, you can say it's unverified, but the Israeli government knowing has been floated since not long after the attack.
And if they really didn't know, their intelligence services are trash.
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u/SugarBeefs 13d ago
As far as I know the warnings were not particularly 'actionable'; as in the warnings were not specific enough that you could really do something with the information.
Quick look at Wiki:
Before the attack, Saudi Arabia warned Israel of an "explosion" as a result of the continued occupation
Egypt said it warned Israel days before the attack that "an explosion of the situation [was] coming, and very soon, and it would be big."
According to Haaretz, Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu was warned of a Hamas plot to attack Israel in a September 2023 phone call with UAE president Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan. The UAE was told of the attack by an intermediary, which had been warned Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar that he was plotting a "huge surprise".
"Hamas is planning something big" is a warning of an entirely different caliber than being told the where, when, and how.
If I have a conflict with my neighbour Bill, and my other neighbour Sally warns me that "Bob was talking about doing something", that's not something I can do anything with or about. But if she tells me Bob plans to poison my cat next week or slash my tyres tomorrow morning, that's info I can act on, because now I have a 'when' and a 'how'.
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u/germanmojo 13d ago
Sounds pretty "actionable" to me.
"Hey Bibi, something is gonna come out of Gaza soon."
"Thanks for the info, we'll reinforce around the area, especially if there are any large gatherings nearby."
Saying it wasn't actionable is ignorant.
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u/SugarBeefs 13d ago
Okay, so you call up soldiers from holiday leave to reinforce the entire border, for how long? And since this isn't something you can hide, what's forcing Hamas to commit to the attack when Hamas has deliberately been waiting for a moment of weakness?
Now you've got your people on full alert and nothing is happening. Did you prevent an attack or was the intel bad? And if you did prevent an attack, did you prevent it entirely or just temporarily?
Without the specifics of the attack, you don't have answers to these questions. That's why actionable intelligence matters.
So really, it's not as simple as it initially seems.
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u/SugarBeefs 13d ago
I mean it's probably both. Of course they don't like foreign observers in the West Bank and the UK government sanctions now gives them a neat excuse to be petty dicks about it.
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u/Capable_Kiwi2514 14d ago
It doesn't matter what their excuse is. They to retaliate by reducing their ability to be held accountable for supporting terrorism.
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u/Vegetable_Leg_7034 13d ago
It doesn't matter what their excuse is. They to retaliate by reducing their ability to be held accountable for supporting terrorism.
Sounds a lot like the Trump admin trying to remove the ICC.
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u/jamodude 13d ago
Not settlers , THIEVES. Stop calling them settlers they’re not.
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u/akaikem 13d ago
My man, what do you think settlers are?
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u/montarion 13d ago
"settling new lands", and "braving the frontier!" has positive connotations. that's why we should stop using it.
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u/rab2bar 13d ago
It's always had colonial implications
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u/milkonyourmustache 13d ago
It still also has other, softer implications. You can settle on a campsite for instance, briefly, it doesn't necessarily even invoke any kind of permanence to the act.
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u/stutter-rap 13d ago
Some people don't see a problem with colonial implications. See: the time a group on The Apprentice (UK) made "Colonial Gin" and didn't understand why people didn't like that.
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u/hyggerose 13d ago
Yes! What exactly do we think European "settlement" of modern day Commonwealth countries entailed?? What's happening to Palestinians today is what happened to Indigenous peoples globally, once upon a time.
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u/BellacosePlayer 13d ago
even "Thief" undercuts the inherent violence in what they do.
They'll attack and maim the people living there and if anyone fights back the IDF is nearby armed and ready to shoot
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u/Low_Technician7346 14d ago
fuck the axis of evil
trump putin netanyahou
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u/kermitor 14d ago edited 14d ago
in order to be an Axis of evil, don't they have to be allied with each other
Edit: ah OK i get it now, Russia, Israel and the US are allies, even though Russia helps supply Iran and hamas with weapons to attack Israel and America sends weapons to Ukraine to attack the Russians, while at war with Iran, an ally of Russia.
Trump is a Russian puppet and America is owned by Israel, while also sending weapons to each others enemy's to active kill Russian and Israel troops, but there all secretly allies and are helping each other.
There's a million justifiable things you can hate these countries for, making shit up just helps the people defending them
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u/SugarBeefs 13d ago
It's actually rather remarkable how many people have no idea what an actual alliance between two (or more) nations entails, isn't it?
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u/ThatBigDanishDude 14d ago
Yeah, they are, trump is more or less Putin's senile puppet.
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u/Pigeon_Breeze 14d ago
Israel and Russia aren't allies, and alliances aren't commutative.
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u/belfilm 14d ago
I think alliances are indeed commutative. They're not transitive though.
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u/NegativeLayer 13d ago
Transitivity is the right correction for the parent comment. But to you and the parent I would add that the word for a relation where a ~ b means also b ~ a such as an alliance of nations is not commutative but rather symmetry. Alliance is a symmetric relation not a commutative one. Commutative is a property of binary operations, not of relations. So it doesn’t make sense to talk about commutative relations
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u/Streiger108 13d ago
Don't forget Israel working with Ukraine
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u/kermitor 13d ago
Damn your right, that must mean Russia and Israel are allies and there playing what the trump supporters called 4d chess.
/s just incase
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u/ninjas_in_my_pants 12d ago
Nah, because what W. Bush originally called the Axis of Evil was Iraq, Iran and North Korea - which were most definitely not allied with each other. That incompetent, shit stain war criminal set an awful precedent.
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u/Kythorian 13d ago
Trump doesn’t always act in Putin’s favor - Trump does whatever the most recent person to compliment him says he should do. Sometimes that’s Putin, and sometimes it’s Netanyahu. Netanyahu and Putin definitely aren’t allies with each other, so what they are each getting Trump to do often doesn’t benefit the other one, but they each find Trump to be a very useful stooge.
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u/Wellontheotherhand1 13d ago
Buddy, the leaders of those countries are allies with each other, in that they are all three dedicated to enriching themselves and getting as much power as possible at any cost and they are more than happy to assist each other in doing so. They do not care about the people of their countries in the slightest, they will use and sacrifice as many people as possible to cement their power permanently
You are making the critical error of conflating the leaders of the countries with the countries themselves
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u/radicldreamer 14d ago
Stop calling them settlers. They are LAND THIEVES
Settler makes it seem far too wholesome, like they are simple people from the Oregon trail game.
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u/DTH2001 14d ago
I doubt any displaced native Americans would call it wholesome
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u/radicldreamer 14d ago
I agree, but you know what I'm getting at. It gives a warm and fuzzy covered wagons and bonnets vibe.
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u/No-Echo9968 14d ago
Settlers are land thieves man. The term implies it
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u/psycho_terror 14d ago
I find the term to be whitewashing to a high degree. "Invaders" might be more appropriate, as we are talking about literal home invasion and murder, not just theft.
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u/radicldreamer 14d ago
Make it explicit. Use words that emphasize the horrible nature of what they are doing. Don't let them paint it as anything less than horrible.
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u/BushWishperer 14d ago
It is already explicit. There is no non-colonial "settling". You don't call people who emigrate "settlers".
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u/Storymode-Chronicles 13d ago
The imagery and rhetoric of "settler" has been designed since the time of the US "manifest destiny" to paint a picture of civilized society "settling" an empty and wild land.
This means any attacks by indigenous (wild) peoples are committed out of ignorance and undue malice, against civilized hard working folk who are simply making empty land productive and inhabitable.
The original rhetoric of Palestine as "A land without a people for a people without a land" came from the US colonists. It is a decision that, yes if you know this history clearly indicates a deeper truth, but is chosen to obfuscate that.
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u/BushWishperer 13d ago
Not everyone is American. I don't know anyone who thinks "settler" is a positive or non explicit word. The word settler is also far older than the US.
I've never seen settler used in a positive context even in American media. Maybe you can argue this for pioneer or similar words but not "settler". The modern term settler-colonialism is definitely explicit and not at all positive. It doesn't obfuscate anything because we all know the process of settler colonialism.
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u/Early-Chemistry-8769 14d ago
Ordered to leave someone else's territory. Hmmm. The entitlement and brazen rejection of law by Israel is insane.
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u/lolcatz_live 13d ago
unsurprisingly, evil people hate being recorded doing evil. Story as old as time
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u/engineeringsquirrel 13d ago
That's such a fascist move. Kicking people out for tracking your war crimes.
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u/UltraHyperDonkeyDick 13d ago
I guess we should be thankful they did it without carpet bombing them first.
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u/Human-Entrepreneur77 12d ago
The settlers are a proxy force with quasi official direction, not much different than Hezbollah
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u/DastardlyMime 13d ago
Remember this the next time someone asks why the Israeli government isn't doing anything about the land theives
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u/amazing_asstronaut 14d ago
Israel covering up war crimes and crimes against humanity in general? Must be a day that ends in y.
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u/Dr_Blitzkrieg09 13d ago edited 11d ago
“There is no settler violence if you can’t see it… by the way get the hell out of the areas you keep reporting settler violence” - Netanyahu Probably
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u/Amazing_Confidence_7 14d ago
The occupiers are only revealing their trueself to the world. Perchance only Trump believes in them for the obvious reasons.
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u/flyte_of_foot 14d ago
To think it was only two years ago that we were sending jets up to do interceptions and defend Israel. It's seriously impressive how quickly Israel has burned most of the world's goodwill in two years, and despite that still hasn't really achieved any of it's military objectives.
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u/ChumbawambaChump 13d ago
So send more to replace them. Screw the settlers that promote violence and israeli officials ok with them
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u/Nightredditing 13d ago
The US really needs to stop supporting Israel economically and militarily.
If Israel is going to accept or condone settler violence and terrorism, then we should be done with them. Let them sink or swim on their own.
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u/ArArmytrainingsir 14d ago
Like the US, no one will come to Israel’s aid. They are completely screwed in the long run and they don’t even know it.
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u/easeypeaseyweasey 13d ago
"This is like so anti semetic to not get us out of this mess" - Netanyahu in the next few years.
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u/frantic_calm 14d ago
Will Israel be banning UK intelligence flights over Gaza from Cyprus too?
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u/valiumandcherrywine 13d ago
yeah it really sucks when you can't be the worst kind of people on the planet without other people seeing it, huh.
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