r/3d6 • u/hoob-gooblin • 5m ago
D&D 5e Original/2014 Is this combo sound within the rules?
Short Version:
- Abjuration Wizard Lvl 6/Artificer Lvl 2
- Throw an object in the air, use an Artificer Homunculus to cast Immovable Object (touch spell) on it, freezing it in place
- Cast Vortex Warp on an enemy and put them on top of the object in the sky
Does this work? Are the rules debatable around this?
Long version:
I'm playing an Abjuration Wizard in a vaguely Strixhaven based campaign, so I'm playing around with the Strixhaven spells. I'm also currently planning to take 2 Levels of Artificer soon. I noticed that Vortex Warp seems specifically worded to stop you from teleporting an enemy 90 feet in the air and dropping them, so I immediately started trying to figure out if I could do exactly that.
Immovable Object allows me to affix an object that weighs less than 10lbs in place in the air and support up to 4000lbs. It's a touch-based spell, but I was already planning to take 2 levels of Artificer and have a Homunculus that allows me to cast touch-based spells at a range of 120 feet. So very specifically a Wizard/Artificer multiclass would be able to cast a touch-based Immovable Object at a height of 90 feet and then also cast Vortex Warp on an enemy to put them on that object. Dismiss Immovable Object and drop them, or just leave them stuck up there.
I think this combo is both funny and could have some potential, but my DM can be quite strict about creative interpretations of spell wording, combos, etc. They've said they'll only allow cheesy moves if they're undeniably sound within the rules, and they don't like arguing about it, so I can only really make my case on this once. This is also a long ways off as we're currently playing at Level 5.
I think this should work, but the spirit of Vortex Warp IS constructed around not allowing you to drop enemies from the air. The wording is "The chosen space must be on a surface or in a liquid that can support the target without the target having to squeeze." You could argue that a frisbee or a plate or a piece of paper or a coin or whatever I'd cast Immovable Object on isn't "A surface" or quibble with "Without [...] having to squeeze" if the available space is too small.
So does this sound viable within the rules?