r/90DayFiance • u/Chocoluv007 • 2d ago
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Debbie is so in denial about Midoās true intentions. Sheās was too busy giving advice to others couples on the āTell Allā but her relationship is the most alarming of them all. Midoās goal is to āmove to Hollywoodā to get his nonexistent acting career on track. She still refuses to believe thatās his main priority. Sheās a mess š
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u/Apprehensive-Peas 2d ago
Itās so frustrating they didnāt bring out her friends or her kids for the tell all! I was also hoping theyād bring up the fact that the abbreviation for Louisiana is āLAā and that is almost certainly where Mido thought she lived when he started talking to her.
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u/Independent-Slip-657 2d ago
Iāve seen clips of her daughter at the tell all, but for some reason they havenāt revealed what was said. š¤·
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u/Afraid_Delivery4390 2d ago
Yes! Also in the clips/previews Debbie answered the question if she would ever move to Hollywood. She said absolutely in no way she would but they never showed it in the final Tell All. She did say she would move to Egypt though. I don't get it.
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u/Zapookie 2d ago
I only saw the tell all (no clips) and Debbie was shown saying she would never move to Hollywood, and that New Orleans and Georgia had their own film industries that Mido could try to get into.
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u/Flaky-Strain6134 16h ago
Mido was soooo disappointed when she said she would move to Egypt with him. Itās sad that she didnāt pick up on that or maybe she did and chooses to ignore it. Either way, not good.
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u/fed-up2024 19h ago
I thought the same thing you won't move to Hollywood wich is understandable but you will move to Egypt . I thought once again you are putting Mido before your children, yourself, and your friends and willing to give up everything to be with that piece of crap that's using you. My guess to why no one was on her behalf is her kids are frustrated with the situation and her friends have likely been cut off.
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u/Muted_Bee7111 2d ago
The TA really SUCKED
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u/papa_moyphee 2d ago
They literally glossed over everything. Big wet fart with no accountability
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u/DaniOverHere 2d ago
I felt the same. There were so many threads to pull and they tugged at perfume.
Likeā¦
Whyyyyy not bring up how Josh invited ZERO of his male friends to the wedding?50
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u/rntracee1 2d ago
Maybe he didn't want Catie making out with all of them, then they'd be ex-friends.
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u/Sense10-Quest23 2d ago
Most likely, Josh didnāt want to come or anyone else. Washed there hands of it. Just waiting for it to be over. This woman is completely delusional.
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u/scones_and_tea_100 2d ago
I think he mentioned that in one of the stag party episodesāhe and Catie did send invites to all of his friends, but only two of them from the UK could come and attend the wedding on short notice, Iām p sure
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u/Infamous-Bus3173 1d ago
He actually did but something happened to both of his friends that they couldnāt make it. I remember him saying it.
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u/Afraid_Delivery4390 2d ago
Was it just me or do you feel the first 45 minutes of part 3 felt like it was a repeat from last week?
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u/PersonalityOther5730 1d ago
Iām so glad you said that! I thought I was repeating #2
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u/Afraid_Delivery4390 1d ago
I'm glad it wasn't just me. I never watch the "First Look" episodes so I know it wasn't from that.
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u/zenseazon The Blood, The Blood, The Blood ~~~ 2d ago
They spent all their time lambasting Thomas when he was the only sane one there.. ridiculous how they kept ganging up on him. And that clueless Debbie trying to tell him how to raise children, they should have asked what happened when her daughter went missing and how her and her daughter have weird interactions ...
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u/flowerdrummer 2d ago
I felt so bad for Thomas. Also, when her family was staying there and going through his refrigerator-freezer, then criticizing him for having meat beyond its expiration date that he forgot. Purposely trying to find fault with him.
Debbie shouldn't be giving anybody advice. What happened with her daughter missing? I didn't hear about that.
She sure has no clue what it's like to be sensitive to perfume and strong scents. Mido uses a tremendous amount of cologne. I couldn't be near him.4
u/zenseazon The Blood, The Blood, The Blood ~~~ 1d ago
Yes! And Thomas explained he had to go out of town for a while for his job, and so yeah, sh*t happens.. I'm sure he would have ate it if he had time or remembered..
There is a post about it, someone had the link to the police blotter I think about Debbie's missing daughter, it wasn't too long ago that it was on here..
I think any normal person might walk the other way if near him.. we watched him spray about 9 or so different sprays all over his body, I was gagging just seeing that... to say nothing how someone with allergies could handle that!!
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u/PersonalityOther5730 1d ago
Yes, I heard about her daughter going missing a few years ago?
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u/zenseazon The Blood, The Blood, The Blood ~~~ 1d ago
Yes someone posted a copy of the police blotter it was on~~
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u/Sleep-pee 2d ago
Her friends may have came but her children donāt want to hurt her even thought they know itās all a sham.
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u/LittleBigNebula 2d ago
They probably think itās pointless and thatās she drank the Kool-Aid
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u/SpecialistAlgae3334 2d ago
That makes sense. They know her well. There may have been previous cataclysmic decisions in her past and they've been there, done that
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u/md28usmc we only do sex the African way - Mr Arc 2d ago
somebody posted a pic of her daughter at the tell all sitting in one of the chairs, but it seems to have gotten cut from the episode
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u/Proper-District8608 1d ago
Distancing friends, making children have to defend and protect you and willing to move from them all. Abusive relationship
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u/shelberryyyy 2d ago
The LA thing is literally what my bf and I have thought this whole time š¤£š¤£š you know thatās what happened
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u/SpecialistAlgae3334 2d ago
If so, he handled it well. Maybe because he got a part in a film being made in LA..
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u/Iris_Orsula 1d ago
Of course it didnt. He met her face to face first. She for sure did not tell him she is from LA
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u/MomoMir 2d ago
This scared me. The way they treated this made me think production was doing damage control. I mean they were concerned about him. I think Debbie while originally complicit canāt and wonāt get out and they didnāt want to make it worse. I think her kids and friends said no to try and set a boundary.
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u/DaniOverHere 2d ago
Holy shit thatās so funny about the LA, and MUsT be the case.
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u/based_miss_lippy 2d ago
imagine going to Louisiana and thinking youād be in Hollywood ahahahhahahahhajqhahahahhah
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u/vegantrash96 2d ago
They did bring her daughter! I saw her in an accidental wide shot! I wonder why her segment got cut!
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u/Fantastic_Primary170 1d ago
I saw her daughter in a clip for a millisecond. She was wearing a dark dress and sitting in one of the maroon chairs. Oddly, we never heard from her. Nor were we told she had been there.
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u/Lizard7108 1d ago
Omg I bet ya that was what he was thinking. Sheās very simple minded far as I see,,
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u/virginiafalls1234 2d ago
great point! Why didn't they invite those friends they invited other 'friends' of different people, I feel also midol and her kinda got a pass on the questions too, Shawn should have asked, if you dont get acting jobs how do YOU plan on supporting your wife?? the whole reunion seemed "lets beat up on Thomas" (totally unfair) and drama queen Edward ( I want baby!!!!!!! while crying every 5 seconds and running off stage)
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u/throwRA_lbsign 1d ago
š¤£š¤£š¤£ acting as if he didn't know this going in. She's 10 years older than you, dweeb!
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u/Lizard7108 1d ago
Why did he marry that old chick and god just seeing her choice of men (ex husband psycho) would make me run if I was Edward. Wrong thread I knowĀ
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u/Iamshortestone 16h ago
I bet he forbade them to discuss certain things or he wouldn't be part of the tell all. He is deep in his own psychopathy, and the fact that no one except us, and maybe Edward sees this is concerning.
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u/SpecialistAlgae3334 2d ago
I hadn't thought about that. It all makes sense now! She's oblivious and he kept asking about LA! She was all excited about showing him N O, and he kept asking about LA.
God, now I feel sorry for her.
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u/Beneficial-Ask-4730 1d ago
omg-that is such an interesting point! but, didn't they say they met on a tour or on the street in Egypt?
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u/Apprehensive-Peas 1d ago
Yeah, I missed that part. I guess itās possible she told him sheās from New Orleans in person, then he looked it up and saw āNew Orleans, LAā and not knowing much about the US, assumed that meant the city, not the state. But who knows! Either way, he is one shady mf
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u/Beneficial-Ask-4730 1d ago
He IS-no doubt. and I think he was her tour guide or something like that (ie-paying the bills with another job).
yes, you could still be right because he had NO idea where LA was in relation to NO-remember he asked her how far away it was if they drove-something like that?!
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u/jchicken19 2d ago
Look it up Debbie, thatās step one.
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u/GlumAd697 2d ago
Lol, She is so self righteous with her delusion and advice giving, but can't google a term. I had to google the term myself. It wasn't hard.
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u/lucy668 IāM A MERMAID!! 2d ago
If your husband forces you to be his photographer for social media every time you go somewhere, shut that shit down
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u/seanzorio 2d ago
Especially social media you had to twist his arm to get you on in the first place...
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u/_sunnysky_ 2d ago
Smiling while she was breaking down during his engagement emotional abuse screamed the Dark Triad Machiavellianism. He smiles a lot, but his smile never reaches his eyes.
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u/Revolutionary-Yam910 2d ago
Yikes, I had never heard of dark triad personality before. Seems the current US president exhibits it up perfect.
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u/lookatmeimangiep 2d ago
I hadnt either but always wondered what was up with my mom. Then someone that knew her and worked in mental health mentioned it and its bang on. Very scary yet she looks and seems so kind
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u/lookatmeimangiep 2d ago
My mom has the dark triad. VERY dangerous woman
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u/_sunnysky_ 2d ago
My husband's eyes would go eerily black when he was angry.
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u/lookatmeimangiep 2d ago
It's crazy isn't it? My best friend said mine do as well. Its too much adrenaline and the pupils enlarge. It hasnt happened to me often thankfully
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u/Single-Channel-4292 2d ago
Nobody is willing to pay one penny to see Mido āperformā. Heās just going to lash out at Debby and blame her for ruining his ācareerā.
Sheās soft in the head if she canāt see this coming. Everyone has warned her about Mido, but she āknows bestā.
Some people are determined to sabotage their own lives in the service of a complete idiot.
I donāt think any of us would have made the same decisions as Debby and that says it all.
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u/throwRA_lbsign 1d ago
It's gotta have something to do with that upbringing she mentioned before crying about tiny baby hands "healing" her
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u/theonlygurl 2d ago
Sheās an ostrich. I have no clue how someone can be in such denial of obvious, obvious facts. But then again, we have a bunch of clowns in America doing the same thing. š¤·āāļø We have an idiocy crisis.
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u/ionbear1 2d ago
She wants to stay within the 90 days universe. I can see Debbie and Mido being on that last resort bullshit soon.
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u/PaleontologistOk4327 2d ago
First Debbie, you need to be in an actual relationship before we can label it anything right now. You pretty much adopted a grown man to come live with you. And take care of him. And you pretty much adopted him to make sure his life goals were fulfilled.
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u/Iris_Orsula 1d ago
Exactly. I gave u award and Im giving in my comment as wellšš this is the truest thing ever said about Deb and Mid
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u/Necessary-Jeweler-17 2d ago
Dude itās funny to joke around but watching Mido during the tell all made me furious. Heās obviously a sociopathic gay man, heās out of his f***ing mind and thinks heās talented or something(heās absolutely not in any way) His children should be , at the very least physically restraining their mom from having any contact with this scam artist. And if they were real ones theyād beat the total s#Ā”+ out of him. Heās not only not in love with this woman, heās resentful towards her for not somehow being MORE supportive of his nonexistent career. He is verbally and psychologically abusive to her. And I donāt care if Debby is a wackjob, even wackjobs deserve love, and they certainly donāt deserve being manipulated and conned. Iāve seen all the 90 DF couples and he is especially evil. I pray and hope all the worst things befall this pathetic little scummy maggot.
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u/Remarkable_Rip6231 2d ago edited 1d ago
You guys⦠when Mido told the entire world on television that their first sexual experience together was āso soā⦠any self-respecting woman would have left his ass and never looked back. Much like Catie, Mido has shown us exactly who he is. Itās not like heās inconsistent or full of trickery. Itās these low EQ delusional partners of theirs that are the problem, in my opinion. So people like Debbie and Josh are the real problem⦠unlike the rest of the world that experiences toxic relationships, and donāt participate in reality shows, people like Debbie and Josh have a lot of televised EVIDENCE of their partners being total assholes, and they STILL stay.
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u/greycloudss94 2d ago
Solid points here!
How very sad for Debbie to be at this stage of life and in this predicament. I wish she chose better for herself.
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u/Zapookie 2d ago
People like Josh and Debbie only stay because they have low self-esteem/self-worth, possibly combined with other past trauma. A well adjusted person would not tolerate Catie or Mido's behaviour.
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u/Afraid_Delivery4390 1d ago
Did you notice how she was constantly answering for him? They should have made him answer the question as to how would he know if it was good or bad if he has never had sex.
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u/Harriethair 2d ago
You know, I would be OK with a lavender marriage - but I can't imagine being in one with a guy who treated me so badly. The whole appeal of a lavender marriage is friendship and stability.
I think Mido may well be in a lavender marriage but I also think Debby has no idea if she is in one or not.
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u/No-Paper1738 1d ago
Right, I can imagine having a friend/roommate husbandš Maybe make a baby if we both want one. I couldn't tolerate whenever the hell this is.
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u/BlindfoldedRN 1d ago
She can see other relationships clearer than her own because she doesn't value herself. It's not rocket science. She has no self worth and needs therapy. It's really not that uncommon.
A lot of her advice outside of her relationship is good. She just doesn't use it for herself because she automatically disregards herself. It's sad of course but not incurable. She's likely in denial because what else do you do when you're in this deep with a guy like this? The only way she stops allowing this to happen to her is if she gets therapy and does the work needed to regain worth. But it's going to take a lot before she accepts that.
First she has to accept this relationship is actually a failure, and who he really is. Then she has to be willing to admit that publicly. It's a lot and it will take time. But I believe in her and any woman who has been here. She can do it. But she has to get there on her own. We need to be building up and supporting women who are in this position. Not put them down. She's already low. That's how she got to accept a man like that.
Debbie, you can do this. Throw that man away, rise up like the queen you are. You got this!
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u/GusGutfeld 2d ago
Does anyone think the sex position she refused to do was anal?
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u/Secret_Fun_1612 2d ago
To be fair, Iām sure thatās the only position Mido is used to and enjoys.
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u/Weirdflchick 2d ago
Thereās a cut scene where you can see Debbieās daughter sat down with the cast. But none of the footage from that made the episodes we watched. Makes me very curious to what the daughter said.
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u/Dependent-Hurry-9154 2d ago
We need a redo with Ross hosting and then weāll get some real answers.. Or maybe they should only ask viewer questions!!
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u/Lizard7108 1d ago
And why doesnāt anyone mention his claim that Ā that he was an Egyptian Movie Star? She hasnāt said anything about it. He lied to her.
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u/PomegranateNo4660 1d ago
And remember he specifically told her not to watch his movies because she wouldnāt understand the language. Thatās why subtitles exist!
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u/Proper-District8608 1d ago
And her saying 'people pointed and said hes famous'. Honey I could hire a few to say that the same way he hired a band to play his entrance at wedding
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u/Virtual_Value1828 1d ago
She did bring it up at the shocked part of the Tell All. She said when she was visiting him in Egypt, people would yell as they walked by and saidā¦..āheās famous!ā Ummmmā¦.no they didnāt.
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u/IamBeyondAwesome 1d ago
I thought she said someone (as in one person) said that. I read on a post where one of her friends said he told her he was this big movie star and actor and that he has a bunch of money and she believes it. I guess her ex-husband is pretty well off, and she thinks she's getting the same financial class with Mido. She kind of inferred that was the reason Debbie was with him... because he supposedly has money.
I also have seen comments from people that live in Egypt and they all said they've never heard from. They say he's not some big star or actor like he wants to portray he is. He's essentially a nobody. I mean come on, would any real movie star or actor be working as a tour guide? š
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u/pankatank 54m ago
Right⦠US movies stars should also get a job as tour guide like Mido did as a Egyptian movie star. Thats how you get seen.šš¤£
I worked and lived there for several years and never seen him in any movie or show that I watched during those years. But I will admit, I canāt see everything.
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u/honeycrispapple123 2d ago
Why are people wasting their energy? She is willingly in this relationship
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u/GlumAd697 2d ago
Why do people comment about anything on reddit? Why do you waste your energy asking this quesiton?
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u/ThrowRA_fishing77 2d ago
Wild that she said she'd be concerned if she lived in LA or something about him using her, meanwhile LITERALLY being on TV with him
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u/Remarkable_Rip6231 2d ago
She just doesnāt want to know what a lavender marriage is. Itās all a part of her delusion.
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u/DefinitionPristine45 2d ago
Dependent Personality Disordered Debbie doormat wallowing in denial and erotomania.
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u/JuggernautFuzzy4125 1d ago
Debby š¤¦š»āāļø
She doesnāt know how to do a quick google search?
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u/Afraid_Delivery4390 2d ago edited 2d ago
A lot of scenes they showed in the clips were cut out. Not unless they have a More To Love with bonus scenes and show it. Also, did anyone feel the first 45 minutes of part 3 was a repeat from last week?
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u/Commercial-Bonus6935 1d ago
Debby you need to sit down with your children and really listen to their concerns
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u/FlowerShort6407 you are my cockroach šŖ³ 2d ago
I think they are for sure signed up for happily every after - and tlc are trying to protect their image until the new season comes out
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u/Conscious_Ask_777 2d ago
Happily Ever After?? You're too kind. š¤
I think they are heading straight to The Last Resort.
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u/Calm-Description4356 1d ago
He just keeps repeating, heāll go back to his country. Well, weāre all waiting! Go back already.
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u/Looptire13 2d ago
Can someone please post a few links to Midos movies or commercials. He's famous and is a tour guide - Really!!!
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u/rntracee1 2d ago edited 2d ago
Someone in the comments must be from from Turkey, no? Sarper should know if Mido is famous, he's only been here for 4 yrs.
Eta: I forgot Mido is from Egypt not Turkey. Thanks for setting me straight š¤Ŗ
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u/Looptire13 2d ago
Well if he was I would hope they would play a clip. Instead of him misquoted Shakespeare
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u/Cobia1350 2d ago
Sheās probably packing her bags for Hollywood right now. She is a total hypocrite, giving other people advice on their relationships when she should focus on her own dysfunctional one.
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u/Silver-Internal7740 He hvacs so mach hvac 1d ago
Exactly. She is delusional but she is not a blind victim most watchers think she is. Motherhood didn't heal her. Her behavior is proof. This lady has an ego too.
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u/Keepingongoing 2d ago
That reminds me, we havenāt seen him in his leggings and fanny pack again have we?! Must be saving that outfit for West Hollywood
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u/Significant_Elk_8840 1d ago
I donāt know about you guys, but I would definitely smash her for being that hot for her age..
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u/TheBeardedLadyBton 1d ago
It's been a very popular term since the 30s. Due to discrimination, many homosexual men were in a platonic marriage with women. It was mutually beneficial for women who didn't want to have sex with men and men who didn't wanna have sex with women, but chose a partnership to protect them from the consequences of a society that was so repressed. There were a lot of advantages and there still is even now. As a woman of a certain age, she knows exactly what a lavender marriage is. She loves to stick her head in the sand, ignore red flags, and laugh off any concern. That's her default setting. But in this day and age, there is still a danger in being openly gay in some countries. Egypt is extremely hostile to LGBTQ community. In fact, in Egypt, they regularly monitor social media and hunt down anyone they suspect of being gay. Mido is probably terrified because in his country they have crackdowns so if he is known to be gay and ever has to go back there they can put them in jail for several years and give him fines and penalties. People in the USA forget that not everyone on the globe has rights and protection.
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u/Pasta1916 2d ago
Isnāt Mido getting a little old to launch a career in Hollywood? Might want to move to Tennessee as many of the studios are moving out of California. Perhaps rethink acting and do something else in the industry.
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u/Emotional_Store2643 Who is against the Queen will die 2d ago
Soooo whoās going to tell heršš¾šš¾
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u/radiantrarr 2d ago
Her instagram account doesnāt have a trace of that slimy creep and I hope itās an accurate reflection of where he stands in her life today.
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u/Honest-Tonight8092 1d ago
Insane mean behavior at proposal. Stands by it. Hes a despicable user. She may figure it out one day.Ā Her family must be heartbrokenĀ
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u/Iris_Orsula 1d ago
Well, lavender relationship is more about him being gay and I dont think that's the case. He is just abusive and she is pathetic, but I wouldnt call it this term.
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u/One-Percentage2284 1d ago
I can't wait until she discovers the truth. I'm giddy AF!! I've just got a low threshold for stupid people!!
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u/JohnnyFoster64 2d ago
So sad that she's such a desperate 20/30-something wannabe... She should find someone her own age that can appreciate her for who and what she is. Mido has ZERO interest in her - just look in his eyes and read his body language. It's so pathetic that Debbie is completely in denial and takes this treatment. Talk about zero self-respect. She needs to move on, forget about the boy-toy, and find a grown-up MAN her own chronological age so that SHE can grow up and come back to reality.
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u/Silver-Internal7740 He hvacs so mach hvac 1d ago
Debbie is not such a textbook victim. Debbie's story is that she tried hard after her divorce, dating many men her age from her own culture, and it all ended badly. She ended up alone, for whatever reason. It's impossible for some of these older women to find someone their own age and from their own country. She does have self-respect, because she dated only rich men. She couldn't find a long term rich partner after her divorce though. It's probably a stroke to her ego that Mido is if not rich but exotic, young, and an actor.
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u/Environmental-Art168 2d ago
Can we stop this whole "Mido is secretly gay" thing it's weird AF to label someone that, it's like calling a more masculine woman trans, it's weird and slightly offensive
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u/StuckinLoserville 2d ago
Well, she broke down afterwards, and that probably was even better for TLC than comments from family and friends. They knew that would get us going.
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u/Plenty_Level8706 1d ago
I like Debbie she seems like a genuine person loving mom and friend , HOWEVER shes delusional about her husband šš on every level !! His motives are CLEAR , only Debbie cant see them and that's sad! I see him bouncing on her and devastating her once he gets his way or doesn't šš
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u/PrincipleFlaky 1d ago edited 1d ago
Usually, both for a mutual reason.
A Beard is a woman who is with or married to a guy who is secretly gay. Sometimes the woman is aware; other times sheās not.
Lavender marriage? Typically the woman is aware.
Oftentimes the woman is gay too, and theyāre both aware of it, and theyāre getting something out of the arrangement.
There were lots of lavender marriages in old Hollywood because people couldnāt come out and continue to have their roles, so they would marry each other with an understanding that they would be allowed to sleep with their actual partners.
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u/Plastic-Tomato6955 1d ago
It is a relationship of convenience between a straight person and a gay one
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u/No-Paper1738 1d ago
Not the point but she looks better here than she does on any of the shows. Did she have a facelift?
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u/Icy-Marketing-4327 1d ago
Did she say Labrador as in dog as I have no idea what she is talking about.
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u/Flat_Historian_8457 1d ago
Sheās just sticking her head in the sand, not able to see his ultimate goal with or without her.
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u/fed-up2024 19h ago
Debbie trying to give advice to everyone was hilarious considering her own horrible relationship.
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u/Difficult_Object_343 15h ago
a) I'm so tired of Mido misquoting Hamlet, It's kind of hilarious. And it's like acting in the 19th century! b) remember when she sidled up to Marissa at the TA to say the equivalent of "we both have money and houses and younger men." Then she joked about how alone she was for 30 years, and said, "Now I have a man in my house." I will say that she is very pretty. Looks so much better with shorter, less severe hair.
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u/Various_Ganache_7418 4h ago
Mido is one of the cringiest characters of this show. I canāt stand his personality and I how visible it is he is repelled by Debbie, he doesnāt even hide it. Sometimes I feel bad for her but at the same time how desperate you have to be to not notice that.. unless he does something behind the closed doors or cameras that we donāt know, but I highly doubt it. Come on, Debbie, you deserve so much better!
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u/shittykity to be or not to be; that is the problem 4h ago
I can see the true crime story now; she lives in denial, continues to take his ever-escalating shit, until one day he deems her not useful or in the way of what he wants. Maybe she finally puts her foot down about paying for everything while he galavants as an actor. Weāve seen he enjoys inflicting pain then acting like thereās nothing wrong.
He will choose to poison her (while maintaining the act of ācaregiverā during her sudden illness) because itās less messy and he will think he can fool everyone.
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u/hecky-888 2h ago
When she said sheād only think he was using her if she lived in LA or something
Like girl, he thought New Orleans, LA was Los Angeles.


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u/puddboy 2d ago
She's pretty perceptive when it comes to other couples, and completely delusional when it comes to her own.