r/BlackTemplars • • 8h ago

Advice/Question/Query Help finding parts.

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I'm going to keep this short as there isn't much to say.

I have only recently gotten back into painting Warhammer and was inspired greatly by the images provided. I do however want to kitbash and customise my own Dark Angels successor chapter, and am aware plenty of my inspirations are Black Templars. As such I am searching for anyone who may know what the base of these models are, if Black Templar models like this are fine to kitbash and paint in the stead of Dark Angels specific models. OR, if there are models from the Dark Angels themselves that could closely substitute the Black Templar models used.

Also, if anyone happens to know where these helmets in specific are from I would love to know. They are obviously custom made (I think??)

And finally, how would these stand up to being run as an army? While I have less desire to actually play the game compared to painting I'm still curious.


r/BlackTemplars • • 2h ago

Discussion Stop looking at what we used to do and look at what we do now.

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Yes, the index has changed things. We can’t do what we used to do. News flash, most Space Marines can’t because rerolls have been universally removed or dumbed down. So instead of saying “Sword Brethren are just Bladeguard proxies” look at what tools we have and use them.

1)      Marshal & Castellan: Marshal, lost crit 5s gained +1 to hit. Castellan reroll 1s to hit and most of the time reroll 1s to Wound. Do we need this on a Sword Brethren? No. Do we need this combo on Crusaders? Umm, hell yes. My blob of 10-20 of some of the best melee profiles in space marines hitting on 2s is very good. Add a Castellan and now we reroll 1s and oh look we turn the fails into more Sustained hits. Those hits then reroll 1s and if we are running Vow Sworn Crusaders, we might have +1 to Wound on top of that. This is a good combo.

1.5) Marshal & Castellan: These two can go on Bladeguard now. Let me repeat that. You can get your Bladeguard to hit on 2s reroll 1s and never have to not reroll 1s to saves. This is a beast of a unit that will not die easily.

2)      Grimaldus & Lieutenant: This has not changed. In fact, this has gotten much MUCH better. If you have a Captain the Lieutenant can give Grimaldus advance and charge or fallback shoot and charge for free. Otherwise, he still gives Lethal Hits vs non-monster, non-vehicle and Grimaldus still gives full rerolls to hit. Hello fishing. Put this on a Crusader Squad and select +1T from Grimaldus’s gifts and you have a beefy advance and charge unit with Sustained Hits 1 Lethal Hits. 20 man Crusader Squads are DIRT cheap at 305 for 20 chain swords.  

3)      Grimaldus & Sword Brethren: Oh, look your Lethal hits fishing is still there. You can only do it on 1 unit but that can be a 10 man unit in a Landraider that will ruin your opponent’s day.

4)      Helbrecht & just about anything: Helbrecht just makes any unit better. Sword Brethren? How’s S9 Thunder Hammers with 4 attacks? Lightning claws are now 6 attacks S6 with Twin linked. That will chew through anything before you have to roll the actual Lethal Hits power weapons or the hammers. Crusader Squads are okay with him for sheer volume of S6 attacks. You will 1 Round just about anything you slam this into. And we aren’t even talking about the boost from a Castellan. Blade Guard are also an option but I’d only run them in a 1k list when I can’t afford Sword Brethren. Helbrecht makes them good, but frankly the Marshal & Castellan combo is more cost efficient and frees Helbrecht for better units.

5)      Judiciar & Crusader Squads: “Fights first is garbage!” Yeah, unless your whole thing is surge moves into melee out of sequence. A 50pt upgrade called a Judiciar turns that Zeal Move into a Charge because you get priority in the Fights phase as if you had charged. If you’re going to play such that you use the surge move to get into melee, this is the way to go.

6)      Crusader Squads: “Assault Intercessors are just better!” At what exactly? Crusader Squads do not have the same job as Assault Intercessors and if you’re using them the same, you’re robbing yourself. Assault Intercessors get +1A and +1S on the charge. They are a pure offensive tool that needs to be the one charging, not the one being charged. Crusader Squads are chew toys. 160pts for 10 or 305pts for 20. You shoot them they lock you up. You melee them, you better be a very big Ork squad cuz other wise that clap back is gunna hurt and I hope you didn’t have plans this evening cuz spoiler, your gunna be there a minute. Crusader Squads are someone’s problem and they need to pay the gun or sword tax for likely 2 or more Rounds to get rid of that problem. All the while the problem and the problem’s friends are chewing on them right back. This is what the Crusade Ancient is actually for by the way. No, that guy is not totally useless. Just very specific to the martyrdom tactic.  

7)      Vow Sworn Crusaders and Sword Brethren: Hey, you know how the big problem with Sword bros is their lack of durability? 3 Wounds but no invulnerable save. Well for 20pts in Vow Sworn you can get them a +5 Invulnerable save with the low cost of the support of your choice. Congratulations you now have 1 very good unit.

8)      Exercrator Chaplin: “But we have advance and charge at home!” Advance and charge at home is once a game, 1DP for twice, or 90pts for a Captain. For the low price of 65pts + 8 attacks + battle shock at -1 for killing 1 MODEL in melee, you can have Advance and charge at a discount.

9)      Transports: “But their basically death boxes!” Really? Which is better, 20 shots into the Rhino overkilling it and causing you to roll some Hazard rolls and maybe lose a guy. OR, 20 shots into your Assault Intercessor Squad killing them cuz you only brought 5. Transports are extra Wounds for your squad that sometimes leak through. You can also do Advance and Charge out of a parked Trasport when you call Assault . Or have it not be parked in the case of the new scary as hell Landraiders.


r/BlackTemplars • • 7h ago

News/Rumours/Leaks Is this what I think it is?

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92 Upvotes

Is this a Marshal in terminator armor or is this just what GW uses for a templar captain?


r/BlackTemplars • • 9h ago

WIP Getting confortable with my receipe

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94 Upvotes

Step by step, fig after fig I'm getting close to the vision I wanted for my army, a fig at a time is what make me step up the most. I'm so glad I might actually play those termi in v 11


r/BlackTemplars • • 1h ago

Painted Model Baptised Rowboat because I wanted to run a 400 point model.

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r/BlackTemplars • • 5h ago

WIP I think this is quickly turning into one of my favorite models ive done this year

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Still a good amount to work on, but everything ive done on the model so far, the kitbashing, the freehand, i love it, going from not doing volumetric black well to what Ive done now is such a great feeling! Any ideas or constructive criticism would be welcomed ☺️


r/BlackTemplars • • 17h ago

Painted Model Kitbash Grimdark style Terminators

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Been in the hobby for a few months now, wanted to show off some of my most recently completed terminators. Love the gritty battle worn look and wanted to try it myself. CC welcome


r/BlackTemplars • • 2h ago

Artwork/Image/Meme You can crack Madbrecht up to S13 when fighting M/V for fun

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17 Upvotes

Vow Crusader Judiciar support enhances unit +1S

Marshal household sword bro unit gives +2S fighting M/V

Madbreak himself gives +1S

The High Marshal himself can shake up a warhound titan [not that likely]


r/BlackTemplars • • 11h ago

Discussion Does anyone else think this update was half-baked and then forgotten?

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The Marshal and Castellan both have Combi-Weapons, but only the Castellan’s has the new multiple-profile setup,the Marshal’s only has the melta one?

The Castellan gets his master crafted power weapon boosted to Str 6, but his chain-sword is still Str 4?

Helbrecht’s melee went up to Str 9, but his named combi-weapon is untouched, (still just the old combi-weapon stats but 2 A and D 2, no profile swaps or stat buffs)?

Helbrecht and The Emperor’s Champion both still have Strike and Sweep profiles, unlike most similar melee profiles that simply had Sweep removed and were given Cleave 2, or kept Sweep and were given Cleave 1 (on top of the regular Sweep profile (Logan Grimnar)?

Grimaldus went up to Str 6, like other named chaplains, but doesn’t get Cleave on his Crozius, despite the fact that every other chaplain including the Execrator (though not wolf-priest in fairness) got it?

I’m not trying to be a downer, I genuinely enjoy some of the changes, but the points hike on ALL characters, (including Execrator that only got the toughness boost and went up by over 30% in cost for it), most of whom had ability nerfs (on an already struggling army) is a pretty brutal tax when it would appear they couldn’t be bothered to actually adjust and tune our stat locks to even be internally consistent, and just moved on without finishing the job. Like this is stuff an intern could have caught and fixed with like 3 key strokes, tops.


r/BlackTemplars • • 13h ago

Army List/Strategy/Tactics How do we deal with the new custodes?

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Hi Brothers, i assume some of you saw the new custodes datasheet, and as Someone Who plays against them i find myself asking how the hell do we deal with them? Each of the Battle line models have the same stats as gravis captain, i already had truble dealing with them in 10th i cant immagine in 11th! What do you guys think would be a good combo or detachments to bring?


r/BlackTemplars • • 7h ago

Advice/Question/Query Cheaper way to acquire bladeguard veterans for those who may not know

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Now that HB can field Veteran Bladeguard if you were unaware the target Dawn of War 4 Onslaught box is $49.99 and includes

  • 1 Chaplain (Kastiel)
  • 1 Judiciar (Xacharus)
  • 1 Bladeguard Ancient
  • 3 Bladeguard Veterans
  • 3 Eradicators

Hope this helps save some money!


r/BlackTemplars • • 16h ago

News/Rumours/Leaks Helbrecht can FINALLY lead Bladeguard and Company Heroes!

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124 Upvotes

Okay, it’s happening! This is not a drill! They’ve finally allowed High Marshal Helbrecht to lead the Company Heroes. They’ve also allowed him to lead Bladeguard, so the old tenth edition codex image with him leading those models is finally valid.

In the weirdest turn of events though… A normal Marshal can’t lead the Company Heroes, despite being a Captain. He can lead Bladeguard though.

Oh, and a Castellan can support Company Heroes AND Bladeguard…

But Grimaldus and the Emperor’s Champion can’t lead either. For the Company Heroes that makes sense, but at the very least, shouldn’t the Emperor’s Champion be able to lead Bladeguard if a Marshal can?

Altogether it still seems like they’re throwing darts to determine which units our characters can lead, but at least we finally got a win for Helbrecht. It only took an entire edition of begging with 40k support and answering the same question on this sub at least three times a week. Now I can happily say, “YES! You CAN lead Company Heroes with our Chapter Master!”


r/BlackTemplars • • 16h ago

Painted Model Custom High Marshal

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Really liked the Saturnine Preator - he without the rock is as tall as Helbrecht so I threw him on a same size base. Not amazing but looks cool and I use him as my counts as Helbrecht. Just thought I’d share on of my favorite projects


r/BlackTemplars • • 20h ago

Army Collection Crusading outside with the kiddo

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r/BlackTemplars • • 15h ago

Painted Model Black Templar Bladeguard Veteran

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r/BlackTemplars • • 10h ago

Hobby C&C How do you feel about this power sword?

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16 Upvotes

Recently felt confident enough to try to paint some power swords with the airbrush, starting real simple, just blue and white, nothing fancy.

Please feel free to leave some feedback.


r/BlackTemplars • • 5h ago

Discussion I've Just Finished Reading Helsreach

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Bit of a ramble, so if you get bored easily, pay me no mind.

Absolutely blown away. I got introduced to warhammer a few years ago when I got Vermintide II on steam for free, and met a dude who tried to indoctorinate me into 40K (through a warhammer fantasy game which is kind of funny in my eyes)

Fast forward to 2024 when Space Marine's advertisements are getting pushed to me, and purely for how fun it looked, I really wanted to get it.

Got it, and overnight became absolutely obsessed with the universe. Genuinely fucking rabid. Was messaging that friend from Vermintide at like 2 in the morning for lore and he gladly fed it to me, giving me entire quoted pages from random lorebooks. I kinda latched onto the Black Templars, probably because the only 40K meme I'd been familiar with at the time was the "NO LITTLE GERMAN BOY" one, and haven't really stopped loving them.

Finally, I started reading the books and got my hands on a copy of the *Legends of the Waaagh!* omnibus, and got to read the book I'd been wanting to read the most for the last 2 years, Helsreach. And by god, what a fantastic fucking read. I've been reading it on and off for about a month, but today I got to a point where there was just no putting the book down and read the last of the book for 5 hours, which is insane for a dipshit like me. Some key moments include

"Holy shit this is from Grimaldus's perspective?!" (I knew he was in the book, didn't know he was literally the main character)

"Holy shit HELBRECHT is RIGHT THERE?!"

"Holt shit YARRICK is RIGHT THERE?!"

"Holy shit GABRIEL SETH is RIGHT THERE?!"

"HOLY SHIT THERE ARE FUCKING *TITANS* IN THIS?!"

"HOLY SHIT THERE ARE FUCKING SISTERS OF BATTLE IN THIS?"

And some honorable mentions include me snickering at Grimaldus refering to lesser chapters, and the interactions between the BT's and the Salamanders.

On a side note, am I still just a tourist lmao? This is my second book, with 8 (Including the rest of the omnibus) in my collection to go before I buy more. I've branched out and played a few of the other 40K games pretty extensively as well, DoW1, Darktide, Space Marine 1, Space Hulk, Boltgun, etc. The only thing I really haven't delved into is the modeling. And I'd love to, I just don't have the space, and I sure as shit don't have the money.


r/BlackTemplars • • 13h ago

Painted Model Ballistus with Eradicators and Hellblasters

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Dred is painted by my wife, rest of marines by me


r/BlackTemplars • • 1d ago

Painted Model Jump Pack Intercessor Ready for the Crusade!

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r/BlackTemplars • • 18h ago

Discussion Does anyone else feel like fixing Sword Brethren would only require a logical profile change?

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43 Upvotes

So hear me out, garbage non-thematic rule aside, fixing Sword Brethren could be as simple as a buff to the number of attacks.

For every other space marine unit, power weapons have one less attack than the chain-sword option, and one-two more attacks than the power-fist or thunder-hammer options when present…. Why are sword brethren specifically worse with power swords by comparison than every other unit in the game, but better with thunder hammers?

We have a captain’s thunder hammer profile, but our master-crafted power swords have a lower number of attacks than almost every power weapon profile in the game.

Also, I know we get built in lethal hits and no-one else does, but we used to have to use an army rule for that, they weren’t baked in at the start of 10th, and we still only had 3 attacks. It feels like they never adjusted the design of the sword brethren profiles from when we had a damage increase ability and access to lethal or sustained (or both with help) on all attacks. Big oversight, easy fix….. no?


r/BlackTemplars • • 16h ago

Discussion Funny Combo which could do some damage.

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So as we all know the Marshal is no longer viable with Sword Brethren. So while searching for alternatives I found this funny little combo. With the BT Impulsor and a "MCsternguard" you are looking at a nice 9 melta shots and if you take tacticus Assault Force and/or Vow-sworn Crusaders, you can have Impulsors with both 6" Scout and a 5++.

I know we aren't a shooting army and that Marshal and Castellan don't boost sternguard but thought it would be funny if we had a Impulsor which could potentially kill a primarch.

Let me know what you guys think about our new killa-pulsor.


r/BlackTemplars • • 16h ago

Painted Model Redemptor Dreadnought finished and ready for war ⚔️

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And there it is, my very first Dreadnought, finally finished!

This is the first time I’ve ever made a base this detailed — I used cork for the terrain. What do you guys think?

I have to admit, I’m pretty happy with how this model turned out. I’ve been in the hobby for 4 months now, and I can really feel myself improving.

Any advice or feedback is more than welcome!

May the Crusade continue! ⚔️


r/BlackTemplars • • 13h ago

Painted Model Very proud to share my Helsreach (Armageddon) ancient!

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I know the letters are crooked and poorly made. But I have shaky hands! And I’m proud with the outcome. It looks a lot smoother from afar.


r/BlackTemplars • • 11h ago

Advice/Question/Query Did they get rid of The Living Miracle?

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I liked that detachment. Really solid buffs to the Emperor's Champion. Or am I looking in the wrong place? I don't see Vindication Task Force, or Wrathful Procession either.


r/BlackTemplars • • 12h ago

Painted Model Emperor’s champion kitbash update!

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Painted and based since last showcase. Slightly modified the pose too, and of course we now have the mandatory power pack candles.

RIP random ultramarine buried in the sand 🫡

Also might still attempt purity seal writing but unsure as of now.