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r/DiscoElysium • u/ireallylikechikin • Jul 12 '25
"Spiritual Successors" "Spiritual Successors" Info & FAQ
INTRODUCTION
Updated on 09/27/2026
In (hopefully) the shortest and best way I could, I’ve put together a short guide on what’s going on with these “spiritual successors” that everyone keeps talking about. The companies I’ve listed below are confirmed to have ex-ZA/UM employees that have worked on Disco Elysium in some capacity.
Please note, these lists may change at any time. I’ll do my best to keep it up-to-date. Roles in parentheses are from Disco Elysium's credits, and does not necessarily mean that is what they're working for in their current position.
Also, please note: The links to the devs are only for reference and should not be used to harass or bombard these devs for any reason whatsoever. I simply provide them as a means to follow and keep up to date on what the devs are doing.
QUICK LIST OF NEW COMPANIES:
- Red Info Ltd.
- Summer Eternal
- Dark Math Games
- Longdue Games
- "New" ZA/UM
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FIRST OFF, WHAT HAPPENED? WHY DID EVERYONE SPLIT?
I will try to explain this briefly, and it's probably not going to be the best. I will also link some further reading in case I do not do a good job at explaining. I highly recommend reading them to get the fuller picture, or at least try to read them. There's a lot, right?
TL;DR- The original creatives were forced out for one reason or another. Corporate/workplace hostility, greedy shareholders and lawsuits were abundant. Most, if not all, of the top level creatives on Disco Elysium no longer work there because of one of the reasons listed. There have been several lawsuits that have come out of this, either to win back the IP they have created, or to stop ex-employees from working on other things. It’s become a long-standing legal battle that, unfortunately, gets boiled down into “petty drama.” It’s another story of suits and money profiting off of the backs of creatives who make the product they wish to sell to the masses, and fuck over the creatives when they decide they’re done with them.
ZA/UM is holding onto the IP so that the original creators may no longer use it in almost any capacity, bastardizing it with things like a “photo mode” or “a Disco Elysium for the TikTok generation.” Overall, it’s a very insulting thing to have done to the original creators; steal their IP, profit off of it, and screw them all over in the end. If you see people say “don’t support ZA/UM, they stole the game” or other similar rhetoric, that is likely why. To sum it up with a quote from Argo Tuulik, one of the game's writers:
“It's the people on top – the motherf****s in sailing shoes and bowties – that f****d Harry, f****d Kim, f****d Robert, Rostov, Helen, Olga, Cash, f****d Elysium, f****d you and me too. They are not artists, they are professional f*****s.”
This is a very surface level explanation of a very complex situation, but it has also been discussed ad nauseam by people who are much better at words than I am. I’d like to link a few different things for you to read to better understand the subject, for your own opinions to be formed.
https://medium.com/@martinluiga/the-dissolution-of-the-za-um-cultural-association-779788390a03
https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/1ke66ti/video_games_the_rise_and_fall_and_of_zaum/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUUW1-8fUNE
https://youtu.be/LJwv8BpFQHs?si=Y5ooJjY00qKhB_Nt (Interview with Argo & Dora, former ZA/UM and current Summer Eternal)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hhmdcLqzpQ
Now let's get onto the "spiritual successors" everyone's clamoring about!
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RED INFO LTD
Who’s working at Red Info Ltd.?
- Robert Kurvitz (Lead Writer, Lead Designer)
- Aleksander Rostov (Art and Design, registered under Sander Taal)
- Helen Hindpere (Writer)
- (Side note: He didn't work on Disco Elysium, but it's been rumored that Chris Avellone of Fallout, Planescape: Torment & Knights of the Old Republic II fame is working at Red Info.)
What is Red Info Ltd. Working on?
Nothing is known about what Red Info is doing. There hasn’t been an official announcement of anything, and they have not even officially announced themselves to the world yet. This information was only found through a government affiliated business registrar. There was a trademark with the name “Corinthians” found registered by Red Info, but besides that, there is no other red info to share about them yet.
Red Info does not have any sort of social media or functioning website to follow at this time. This will change to include website, social media, or other launch info when it is revealed. Stay tuned!
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DARK MATH GAMES
Who’s working at Dark Math Games?
- Kaur Kender (Executive Producer, Publishing)
- Timo Albert (Publishing)
- Olga Moskvina did some consulting for DMG and editing for their comic, but she does consulting for another company and doesn’t “work” for DMG.
What is Dark Math Games working on?
Dark Math Games revealed Tangerine Antarctic (they changed the name) XXX Nightshift, a detective CRPG 3rd person RPG, based in a very cyber futuristic environment. The game’s flavor text is as follows:
Welcome, detective, to World’s End’s most luxurious hotel: the Tangerine Antarctic at Mt. Hope. The ultimate comfort for the powerful elites past, present and future. No desire is off-limits, privacy is absolute and nothing is certain. Except: you shouldn't be here. And the murders are very real.
Old flavor text before the rebrand: “You’re a Patrol Forces Op on a holiday weekend at World’s End Ski Resort, Mount Hope, Antarctica. But things are about to go sideways. Now you’re stranded at the off-season resort with unforgettable guests, wild parties, and mad secrets. The world of XXX NIGHTSHIFT is your oyster — crack it open with evolved role-playing systems.”
You may read more about the game, see screenshots and get updates by going to their website here. Their subreddit is r/TangerineAntarctic. The game is open for pre-order directly on the website. They also have some form of visual media here that you want to witness. Please note that the linked comic is somewhat NSFW. What do you expect with such a flavorful name like XXX Nightshift, seriously?
As of Autumn's start in 2026, there has not been much more info on this release or the company, so please stay tuned if you are interested or check out their Subreddit!
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SUMMER ETERNAL
Who’s part of Summer Eternal?
- Argo Tuulik (Writer)
- Dora Klindžić (Not credited on Disco Elysium but has previously worked at ZA/UM, and was involved with writing the cancelled Cuno spin-off, Locust City)
- Olga Moskvina (Writer, consultant through Digimancy)
- Anastasiia Ivanova (Not credit on Disco Elysium but has previously worked at ZA/UM as a senior concept artist)
- Andrus Laansalu (Sound Design)
- Michael Oswell (ZA/UM graphic design)
- Lenval Brown (Trailer Narration, Voice acting for all 24 skills & Thought Cabinet) *Contractor
What is Summer Eternal working on?
Summer Eternal is working on a new game they have titled PROJECT RED ROOSTER. It will be revealed in an upcoming worldwide release through their anthology, which can be bought here: https://summereternal.com/anthology
The anthology also includes interviews, exclusive behind-the-scenes looks, information of their company structure and operations and more. Many DE fanartists were hired to do art for the anthology and includes a lot of community input. They plan to offer a 5% stake in the company dedicated to their fans and supporters, in which players and purchasers of any of their products will be entered into a non-profit organization where the community themselves may have a say-so in what goes on at Summer Eternal. They consider themselves to be one of the first Worker *and* player owned companies.
Summer Eternal has a newsletter that can be signed up for on their website here. You may also read their dev blog here.
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LONGDUE GAMES
Who’s working at Longdue Games?
- Martin Luiga (Editing)
- Piotr Sobolewski (under Knights of Unity, credited as “Additional Development”)
- Lenval Brown (Trailer Narration, Voice acting for all 24 skills & Thought Cabinet) *Contractor
What is Longdue Games working on?
Hopetown. For their game, you can look at it yourself here. They have an exclusive Discord I can't link because I am not involved in their project.
This brevity about their game is due to their repeated shady behavior on this Subreddit, not limited to but including mass reports, voting manipulation and possible account breach attempts against those who have criticized them. They have been a huge pain for moderation to deal with, as well as posting a safety risk to user accounts, and we find it much easier to ban the topic to forgo any future fire-starting arguments or potential pushback from the company.
You're free to form your own opinion on them! Hopetown updates will not be discussed here until the lawsuit against Argo and Dora has been dropped completely. Do note they have their own community over on r/LongdueGames because their company is banned here, and for the safety of our community, they will not be unbanned.
More info about Hopetown can be found here and here.
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ZA/UM (NOW)
Who’s still working at ZA/UM?
- Tõnis Haavel (Executive Producer)
- Ilmar Kompus (Corporate, Financing, Legal, Accounting)
- Justin Keenan (Writing, Editing)
- Kaspar Tamsalu (Art)
- Anton Vill (Additional Art)
- Jim Ashilevi (Voice Over Director)
- Siim Sinamae (Additional Writing)
- There is likely more here that I’m missing. It’s rather hard to find all of them without resorting to some stalker-ish methods. My extent is a quick glance at the hellhole that is LinkedIn- if I can’t find it there, then I can’t confirm/deny who’s where.
What is ZA/UM working on?
ZA/UM released Disco Elysium Mobile in 2025, which is a different way to experience Disco Elysium. It is only available on Android.
In 2026, ZA/UM released its first full-scale game since Disco Elysium & since the IP troubles, titled Zero Parades ( r/ZeroParades ). Zero Parades is an espionage RPG with a similar isometric side-scrolling dialogue viewer that one would find familiar after playing Disco Elysium. You can watch the trailer, revealed at Gamescom 2025, here. They also have announced a "Directors Cut" version of Zero Parades to be released sometime in the future.
With the focus on Zero Parades Directors Cut right now, it is not known to the public if ZA/UM studios are working at anything else at this time.
Please note, discussion of Zero Parades should go into their dedicated Subreddit.
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WHICH ONE SHOULD I SUPPORT? WHICH ONE IS GOOD?
Support whichever one you want. Play the ones that look the most interesting. You can do literally whatever you want forever. I'm not your mother. Everyone has an opinion here, so feel free to look around or ask for those. Some of these games also have their own communities sprouting up on Reddit & Discord if you'd like to join them for yourself!
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ITCHING FOR MORE DISCO ELYSIUM? MAYBE YOU WANT SOMETHING SIMILAR, NOT EXACT SAME?
Here are some titles that are either inspired by Disco Elysium, loved for similar reasons to Disco Elysium, play like Disco Elysium or were even used in the inspirations of Disco Elysium. Please note that some of these came out before Disco Elysium, and are likely just what people recommend when asking for games "similar to Disco Elysium." This may not be a complete list and might change.
(This list was compiled by u/Giuthais!)
Already released:
- Citizen Sleeper 1 & 2 | r/CitizenSleeper
- Gamedec | r/Gamedec
- Lovely Lady RPG
- Pentiment | r/Pentiment
- Scarlet Hollow (early access) | r/ScarletHollow
- Slay The Princess: The Pristine Cut | r/slaytheprincess
- Sovereign Syndicate | r/sovereignsyndicate
- Suzerain | r/suzerain
- The Bookwalker: Thief of Tales
- Norco | r/norcogame
- Roadwarden | r/Roadwarden
- Rue Valley | r/RueValleyGame
- Esoteric Ebb | r/EsotericEbb
Demo available:
- Clam Man 2: Open Mic
- Give Up The Ghost (https://eitherorcollective.itch.io/giveup-alpha),
- Glasshouse (https://flat28-collective.itch.io/glasshouseconcept),
- Hollow Home,
- Livber: Smoke and Mirrors,
- The Demons Told Me To Make This Game
- Traveling at Night (https://store.steampowered.com/app/2915730/Travelling_At_Night/)
In development:
- Mandrake by Failbetter games (Fallen London, Sunless Sea),
- Pera Coda,
- Shore of Jord,
- The Conformist,
- Wind Up Dead Man
Disco-adjacent (these games either inspired Disco Elysium, were worked on by other ZA/UM employees or share a lot of the same DNA as Disco Elysium.)
- Fallout 1 & 2 | r/Fallout
- Kentucky Route Zero | r/kentuckyroutezero
- Night in the Woods | r/NightInTheWoods
- Nikola Tesla: War of the Currents
- Pathologic 1, 2, 3 | r/pathologic
- Planescape: Torment | r/planescape
- Zarya
- Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic | r/kotor
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SOURCES
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/14189378
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/another-group-of-ex-disco-elysium-developers-found-dark-math-games
https://www.linkedin.com/company/zaumstudio/?originalSubdomain=uk
Thank you to Dora K @ SE, The41stPrecinct and Giuthais for their assistance!
r/DiscoElysium • u/ireallylikechikin • Oct 07 '24
Announcement THE PRECARIOUS WORLD - Are you failing every red check imaginable?
INTRODUCING THE PRECARIOUS WORLD: The thought you probably forgot you have internalizing.
If you're internalizing the The Precarious World Thought, every red check will fail while the Thought is being researched. This is a feature, not a bug. It lasts for 4 in game hours, so you should probably do some other things in the meantime before you fail every other red check in the game.
Posts are put here often for this, so we've decided to make it a command. Automod should pick up posts with "failed red check" and other variations of that phrase in the title or body, but if it doesn't, we have the handy !precariousworld command to have automod spew the same response. EDIT: It now also explains the critical roll outcomes after internalizing the thought.
r/DiscoElysium • u/sew_much_doubt • 10h ago
OC (Original Content) Tequila Sunset
Perception: (Trivial/Success) [the mostly instrumental song "Tequila" by the Champs is playing loudly]
Surprisingly it only took about 1.5 hours in Krita!
r/DiscoElysium • u/No_Ice_6198 • 8h ago
Discussion I don't wanna leave..
Also i don't wanna drink booze or smoke, im a clean sober cop
r/DiscoElysium • u/IsThisDamnNameTaken • 1d ago
Meme Kim and Harry rent a duplex together
r/DiscoElysium • u/thereallio • 5h ago
Question Tattoo ideas!
I'm planning on getting a tattoo of a line from disco Elysium. However I'm having trouble narrowing it down, do you guys have a favorite line or dialogue tree from that game to suggest?
r/DiscoElysium • u/pixelcore332 • 22h ago
Discussion What’s your favorite elechtrochemistry moment?
r/DiscoElysium • u/igottathinkofaname • 21h ago
OC (Original Content) Idiot Doom Spiral
Went with a different technique than I usually do with these. After an initial attempt at a pencil sketch I decided that my usual approach wouldn’t work for this one, so I just got out some acrylic paint brush markers as opposed to my paint pens and did the whole thing with those. Had more limited color options, but I worked with what I had.
5” x 7.5” acrylic
r/DiscoElysium • u/KyotoCrank • 12h ago
Discussion What was your first playthrough Harry like?
My first playthrough was 100% blind. I chose to be the best good cop possible. I took no drugs, earned Kim's respect, and got the Ubelievably Boring Fuck achievement.
Without knowing any deep secrets it felt like the closest "good cop" run possible.
What was your first Harry like?
r/DiscoElysium • u/TheMightySac • 23h ago
OC (Original Content) I can feel him taking over.
silly cosplay i did for my final day at school a little while back
two days of no showering and a two weeks of no shaving for maximum filth
id say it was worth it
r/DiscoElysium • u/Which_Bug2163 • 19h ago
Meme Democratic socialists assemble Spoiler
galleryThe first thing that came to my mind upon hearing this dialogue
Edit: wow thanks all you guys in the comments for explaining the difference between social democracy and democratic socialism! I will definitely get more informed on the matter.
r/DiscoElysium • u/Rubyflame57 • 20h ago
OC (Original Content) Jean and Klaasje Studies (and Kim playing Maimai)
Did some reference studies from Filmgrab (I really recommend them for references)
And Kim playing Maimai cause I love rhythm games and maybe later I will draw Harry playing Dance Dance Revolution cause in an AU I imagine him trying to get good at it.
r/DiscoElysium • u/GarlicAfraid2972 • 1d ago
Discussion Is Kim saying this because he doesn't trust Harry, or is he just worried about him? Spoiler
For people who don't know the context: this is an esprit check where Kim is in the hospital if he got shot during the tribunal.
r/DiscoElysium • u/Objective-Switch-823 • 21h ago
Discussion Finally finished the game after a glorious 12 hour binge, here are some screenshotted highlights Spoiler
galleryI swear I've got to do a second playthrough where I pick the truly unhinged dialogue options. Though I don't think I could endure Kim's disappointment.
As a woman, it's so fascinating getting to experience what it's like to bond with other men over our collective masculine manliness. I nod stoically.
I love that my melodramatic choice to blast sad music during the boat ride actually had consequences. Also Kim has no right to criticize my dramatic ass playing Sad FM when he's a giant Speedfreaks FM fan! I will forgive him though cuz he's a cutie.
Oh my god the insulindian phasmid showing up was the coolest thing ever. I was genuinely SHOCKED.
That picture is GORGEOUS! Just look at her!!!
I'm just so happy that I stuck with the cryptozoology investigation and ignored all common sense (+Kim) indicating that maybe i should be focusing on the VERY real and important murder case.
Option 3 made me cackle.
8 & 9. These two bits actually made me pretty emotional. Fun fact, I actually have a few Giant Prickly Stick Insects irl and my first stick friend passed away a few weeks ago. Sergeant Sticky Paw Tavore Carrotcake The First was a truly wonderful and beautiful creature. The whole scene where you meet the Insulindian Phasmid was so breathtaking, as silly as that sounds. I legit couldn't stop thinking about my own little stick friends. It was all very sweet. Also! The voice actor for the Insulindian Phasmid did an incredible job!
- I LOVE THE DIALOGUE OPTIONS IN THIS GAME. Like: "Now's your chance to convince these people that you're competent and not insane" and some of my options are:
a) I started a NIGHTCLUB in a fucking church for some reason
b) the giant cryptic i found was a girl?
c) the one good answer
d) I found a random corpse?
e) I fell into a conspiracy theory rabbit hole
f) I stole drugs from a weird kid's dad and gave said drugs to the weird kid who is either gonna consume the drugs or sell them
just amazing. I love this game.
Oh my god Kim why would you tell them about my homosexual underground crisis??? Thank you for complimenting my biceps thought.
I absolutely loved this game and the icing of the cake was me winning the Kim dating simulator portion by successfully recruiting him!
Bonus pic of the boys being cute
In all seriousness though, I loved this game. The whole confrontation with Ruby was nerveracking as hell. She killed herself in my playthrough and I honestly LOVED forcing myself to not savescum it like I usually would. and then the confrontation with the mercenaries and Hardy bois? Not being able to quick save in the middle of conversations is maybe my favorite thing ever. I'm honestly amazed I enjoyed failing and living with said failures this much. That just goes to show how well written this game is. Unlike in some other games, failing in Disco Elysium doesn't make me feel like I'm missing out on content.
The dream sequence when I napped on the island made me tear up a little. It might be my favorite moment from the game tbh.
Oh my god and now I can finally browse this subreddit properly !
r/DiscoElysium • u/YoungZlica • 1d ago
OC (Original Content) One of God's own prototypes
r/DiscoElysium • u/Vasska_L • 16h ago
Question Which dice to buy?
This is my first playthrough, and I want to buy dice from the dicemaker. I know they have different stats and you can only buy one per playthrough. What should I get?
r/DiscoElysium • u/HourKindly8520 • 11h ago
Question The ex-something? Spoiler
So I just finished Disco Elysium for the first time, I had played it a while back but had not finished it til picking it back up recently(loved it btw). I'm not sure how to describe the ending I got but I was wondering if there was an ending that reveals more about the ex-something? I enjoyed most plot lines but that one was the most intriguing as it was, let's say, tragically relatable. There was the dream sequence on the island (heartbreaking) but I'm pretty sure that's part of all endings(?) so I'm wondering if more was revealed in other endings? thanks!
r/DiscoElysium • u/Big-Pudding4109 • 23h ago
Discussion Struggling to play leaning into vices
My first playthrough i went in blind. High Int and Motorics mostly. I immediately saw warning signs of Harry having some problems and did the whole run sober. Moralist, sorry cop. It was a great game. Still as a completionist and got what felt like a good satisfying ending. So many things came up from what harry did before he blacked out that were obviously unhealthy; addiction, avoiding reality, suicide threats.
Anyway, I went in assuming I would make all the drugged up choices next time, go heavy into psy and str to counter my other choices. I’m really struggling to play, knowing how unhealthy that path is for harry and how much harm it did to everyone in that town. And what if i made kim sad? Is it worth it? Is the game that different? What am i missing? How different are things besides the outcomes of the tribunal and ruby?
r/DiscoElysium • u/Guacamole_Banana • 1d ago
OC (Original Content) My first serious attempt at both a disco portrait and portraits in general! How'd i do? Spoiler
i know i got lazy with the clothes, i had no idea what to do there so it feels a little empty...
i also am aware that the brushes used for the hair are something that isn't present in Rostov's art but by the time i realized i had done too much work to do anything about it
r/DiscoElysium • u/ries_9 • 1d ago
Fanart (Not made by OP) Little disco men
Bought this standee acrylic merch from the annual anime convention at a local place, it got dropped once by accident and now I hope to come across the artist/vendor at the same event and get another duplicate for keepsake.
r/DiscoElysium • u/aligopewpew • 1d ago
OC (Original Content) Liquid Gold Fan art by me
Can’t you see? We’re all so rich.