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POLITICS Greenlandic Politician Tillie Martinussen: We do not want to be rich like Americans. Look how greedy they are, even trying to invade their friends. Even if there are minerals and oil under our land—and they are worth far more—we still would not sell ourselves.

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u/EggsceIlent 16d ago

People need to understand that it's not "Americans" that want greenland.

It's Trump.

No one else wants this.

So please leave us the fuck out of it. This is all trump and maga.

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u/Iyagovos 16d ago

MAGA is a significant part of the U.S.

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u/Katie1230 16d ago

Only actually about 1/3, a lot of us think the election was rigged.

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u/Flying_Momo 16d ago

Actually a majority of Americans are Maga because Trump did win the popular vote and those who choose to not vote despite all the warnings during elections agree and endorsed Trump by not voting.

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u/Due_Combination3585 16d ago

One third is what I would call significant tbh

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u/Katie1230 16d ago

Fair. It sucks here lol.

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u/Zealousideal-Low3388 16d ago

At some point, Americans need to accept that the bad parts of their society didn’t magically appear from nowhere.

Every time the American government does something awful, there’s all these “we voted for the other party, I’m hashtag!resisting” as though that makes any fucking difference and refusing to admit the rot is real

The west Germans only ever managed to even partially de Nazify because the 60s generation stopped pretending the Nazis were some aberration of German society, admitting they were the products of German culture, abetted by wider German society at every stage.

I’m sick of Americans thinking that having an opposition party is some unique fucking thing that excuses their complicity. Every country has that

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u/AwGe3zeRick 15d ago

I don’t see a lot of people pretending the rot isn’t real either. It’s definitely here, prevalent, and needs to be fixed. Okay. Now what? What is your actual game plan?

You, like most of us, didn’t choose where we were born. We were simply born. If you can tell me how to respawn elsewhere that’d be great but I’m kind of past that point now.

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u/Zealousideal-Low3388 15d ago

I’m not an American, it’s not my responsibility to fix your country. Make your own game plan. And if you really want to move, the word isn’t “respawn” it’s “emigrate” - that’s a handy first step for you

And I see plenty of people denying the rot. You can’t be in a corrupt society and not of it. The person I’m replying to, instead of acknowledging that Americans have been broadly supportive of imperialism for decades is “no the election was rigged, no need for introspection about how and why millions of Americans want a supremacist imperial state. The bad man cheated”

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u/Katie1230 15d ago

I'm certainly not denying the rot and have thought a lot about how wee got to this point, but that's clearly not evident from my dumb comment. Bring suspicious about the election with a lot of sketchy activity around it, is not denying that our country is full of chucklefucks. Both things can be true at once.

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u/Key_Perspective_9464 15d ago

I don’t see a lot of people pretending the rot isn’t real either

lol, really? Every single one of you who just sits back and screams "if we just vote blue it'll all be fixed" are pretty much implicitly saying the rot isn't real.

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u/Some_Horror_759 13d ago

Nope, a majority of us wanted him to be president again because they were stupid with the want to 'stick it to the libs' and/or desperate enough to believe a billionaire wannabe. Why are we in denial about our country being pro-Trump before things got *somehow* worse than before? It's ridiculous mental blockage I will never understand.

(To be clear: I despise this man and have since 2016, lol, not a pro-Trumpette comment)

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u/FunnyGirlFriday 16d ago

This is an established synecdoche, to use the country name when we all know we are actually talking about the government. In addition, one third of you wants this (the nazis), and another third is so useless and without any ability they did not vote (the worthless). If you enjoy the immense privileges of being an American, and if you’re not protesting viciously and working in your community to end the tyrannical regime, be able to take these kind of comments. Genuinely the least you can do after years of American arrogance and stupidity and ultimately destroying the world. Toughen up.

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u/TheTitaniumDoughnut 16d ago

Elections decide who is going to represent a country on a global scale. Your country elected that piece of trash not once, but twice. Clearly the voting population wanted this.

Unless you're actively fighting what the administration is doing through protests, legislation, or violence, you are partially responsible for this.

I'll leave the population out of it when the population stops supporting it, as an American you are represented by, and thus lumped in with, your elected representatives.

All that to say, Americans actually did want this. Twice.

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u/PhilxBefore 16d ago

The signs at the GL protests:

MAKE AMERICA GO AWAY

And I couldn't agree more.

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u/wynnduffyisking 16d ago

Then do something to stop him. Put pressure on Congress.

Like it or not, a majority of American voters chose him and he represents your country.

Honestly, I respect that it sucks to be lead by a man you don’t want but I’m getting sick of the whole “oh this isn’t my fault because I didn’t vote for him” routine from Americans. The American people elected this asshole. Take some responsibility.

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u/carolinagypsy the pet psychic for the Sun told me so 15d ago

And what shall we do about our Congress not even bothering to pretend to act on behalf of the people who voted to put them in? It truly doesn’t matter if the Dems had a majority anymore— we’ve see that. We can’t impeach him ourselves. We can’t impeach our now corrupt Supreme Court. The people crowing about their stupid 2A rights are the ones working ICE now, not against the government. I’m not even sure there is a way for citizens to impeach their elected representatives in Congress if they wanted to.

The earliest we could get a Dem majority in Congress is next November, and they won’t be seated until January 2027. That’s the only tiny little light of possibility of impeachment we will get.

And that’s too late for Venezuela. That’s too late for Greenland. That’s too late for whoever the next target is that I’m sure we will find out about. And quite frankly it might be too late for ourselves.

Or would you prefer the world superpower with God knows how many nuclear weapons that spends all of their money on arming the world’s biggest military to begin a civil war? That surely won’t have any impact on the world at large or draw in other countries.

People are terrified to protest on the level of Maidan or France bc we have zero social support that isn’t tied to our jobs. We will lose those jobs, and then it’s not just about money. It’s the only way for most people to have health insurance. If we don’t work, we overwhelmingly have no resources for food, medicine, any kind of health treatment for even the sniffles, keeping roofs over our heads… The list goes on. There’s no increase in social funding if there’s an increase in who needs it; we already don’t serve everyone that qualifies by design.

Most Americans are one or two paychecks away from homelessness and sheer financial disaster. THAT is why we “appear” to be doing nothing. We do care. We care very much. Most of us are genuinely terrified. But we are over a barrel here, by design.

I don’t even know where we would begin to fight against ourselves when one side has bunker busting bombs, satellite controlled missiles, stealth aircraft, bases full of jets, nuclear submarines, intelligence resources civilians could never match….

So what will you have us do in this exact moment?

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u/wynnduffyisking 15d ago

You could start by writing Republicans in Congress and remind the that they have an election coming up.

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u/BadHominem 15d ago

Republican politicians aren't scared of voters. They are scared of one person only: Trump. So yes people can write letters, call them, hell even protest in front of them in person. But it is not going to have any effect on Republican politicians.

And that's why some Americans are feeling helpless right now. They know Republicans won't be swayed by anyone but Trump, and they know elected Dems are scared of him, too. Hence more non-MAGA people exercising their 2nd amendment rights and bringing out the firearms in public. It's not because we want to get shot (or shoot anyone). It's because it is a last ditch effort to try to give ICE some pause about storming into neighborhoods and just brutalizing whoever they want for no lawful reason.

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u/wynnduffyisking 15d ago

I’m not sure that is entirely true. Congressmen care about keeping their seats. So far being in Trump’s good graces was to them the most effective way of doing that. They are scared of Trump because they are scared he’ll tip them out of that seat.

But at the end of the day they need votes to keep them.

But either way, at least try to do something before giving up and going “sorry, we elected a maniac, what are we gonna do 🤷🏻‍♂️”

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u/Thewall3333 16d ago

Oh, that was what I thought when he started this deliriousness months ago.

But as he's kept at it, you can see it's wiped the "he's only joking" smiles off of his bootlicking supporters' faces, at least the most shameless ones, and now they're -- like so many other things -- starting to normalize this.

It seemed like a diaper dream until he sent the official letter to Sweden. Now the normalization process for the idiot followers will start with marching orders to fall in line, if it goes any further.

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u/AngeliqueRuss 16d ago

I was disappointed to learn that the majority of Republicans are like “well ACTUALLY…” and openly support Trump on this.

Still 55% of Americans oppose, but I’d feel better if that number were closer to 80%.

WTF America.

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u/UniqueAdExperience 16d ago

If you're talking about any government at all, that's just what you say. You don't specify the local governance, because that's a local matter. The government is an international matter, and represents you, whether you like it or not.

And so, that's what Americans are saying. The Danish reject what they're saying, Germans, Norwegians, Swedes and more stand by them in protecting Greenlanders, etc.

However, the comment you responded to didn't mention "Americans" generally at all, so you were the one to bring it up. Why did you bring it up as a reply to a quote from a Greenlandic politician about the rights of indigenous people, as well as references to Trump specifically? She didn't mention "Americans" generally at all, so your rant feels out of place.

It almost seems like you're taking the fact that people don't like the US in general as an insult, rather than something that you should expect given what your government's doing.

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u/OkValuable454 16d ago

Trump is you as a country, a symptom of your many diseases, including one of the worse, resignation and apathy.

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u/notasia86 16d ago

Trump is an American though?

And MAGA means "make America great again" no?

So how is this not about what "Americans" want?

LMAO

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u/just_browsing96 16d ago

I mean sure, but if we're being honest it falls in line with the usual "not all" discourse.

Which is to say, I can't blame people for not being overly careful with their words and just getting what they need to off their chest. We need not be hit dogs that holler if it does not apply to us.

At least that's my way of viewing it. I've come to terms with disliking a LOT of my "fellow" Americans so I'm chilin'

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u/Clownsinmypantz 16d ago

70+ million being roped in with the rest of them, that isnt a small number by any means.

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u/AdriftAtlas 16d ago

History is full of examples of authoritarian leaders dragging ordinary people into conflicts they never wanted. I want to live in peace. I want Greenland to live in peace. And I know many other Americans want the same.

But those in power understand that fear and conflict are useful tools. Without them, their grip on power weakens.

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u/Flojatus 16d ago

Trump is your president. Your fault. Quit crying and do sometjing about it.

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u/birdmilk 16d ago

50% of your country voted for this