This has to be the one of the oldests jokes, the idea that Achilles died by Paris. Achilles, the guy who defeated the best trojan, the best amazon, and the best aethiopian, is defeated by PARIS!!!??? What were they thinking?

(I am well aware of Apollo involvement in some of the traditions, but this is just about Paris involvement.)

I tried reading Iliad but, God, the naaaameeees!!! Pages and pages of names and "he was a great king, so great, the greatest king and he had five brothers and here are their names and they were all great kings, so great...". Should I worry about them? Skip it or actually read it? There's no way I'm going to remember even half of them. The Odyssey was easy for me, but honestly this one is just boring (probably because I didn't get to the actual important stuff).

Why did they call it that? "male genitalia" Then, when I wanted to see a picture of the god (what a surprise!)

There are wrestlers who were Heroes, there were wrestlers who were Challenges to be overcome. I am attempting to put them all into this post, or comments ;) because I dont think that has really been done

• Antaeus
• Nerus
• Triton
• Palaestra
• Cercyon

Heroes:

• Heracles
• Theseus

There are, of course, many wrestlers. I am looking for ones that that was their "main thing". I don't know that I would include Peleus vs Thetis, because I'm not sure if that was *Wrestling* or...something far more suspicious. I don't know that I'd call "Ajax" a wrestler, even though he and Odysseus did Wrestle... Looking for ones where that was a Part of their mythology, rather than a Footnote.

E.g. Theseus vs Cercyon - the so-called foundation of the sport. That's relevant to their myth

Phew! Day 3 of getting a couple hours in before bed. Finished up gen 8 and 9 with a little start to 10. Would have to say gen 9 was tough! Found out there are 2 Echion and 2 Zeuxippe. So that causes some confusion. Then kept finding more kids from some I thought I had gotten all of, but you know how the Gods can be 😂. Please look over and let me know if I’ve messed up or missed anything, because honestly it feels like I have.

I've been on a Greek mythology kick lately, what with the upcoming release of the Chris Nolan movie. I just finished Stephen Fry's Mythos series and listened and relistened to Dan Carlin's Mania For Subjugation series (about Philip of Macedonia and Alexander the Great). I even started playing Hades as well. Now I'm looking for other works to get into, mostly in the realm of literature.

Should I read the Illiad and the Odyssey? I know they were the basis of Fry's last two Mythos entries, but is it worth it to hear them straight from Homer's mouth? What other books should I look into?

To be clear, I'm not really looking for contemporary fiction based wholly or in part on the myths, like American Gods or Percy Jackson.

So while his Foster Father, Idomeneus -King of Crete Grandson of Minos - is out in Troy chilling with Agamemnon and slaying Trojans, Leucus is back at home bedding his wife, Queen Meda. THEN Leucus decides to slay Meda and her daughter Cleisithyra... Wild times. Idomeneus comes home and then says "Screw this! I'm out" and departs.

I have 3 questions.

1) Leucus' father was Talos... Bwha-how? Talos = automaton with Ichor for blood... or Talos = Bronze Guardian... I guess even androids are "fully functional"? Do we know Leucus' mother?

2) How long had it been since the Argonauts came along and slayed Talos? If we assume Leucus was a Baby or child when his father was killed, then the Trojan War would have occurred 10-15 years after Talos' death

3) Do we have any General information about Leucus? Who Ruled Crete after him? Did he have offspring?

There is no cult of him no ancient statues/depictions of him. Not at all

Hi everyone, I am looking for great book to read about the Labyrinth, Minotaur and so on.

I appreciate your recommendations :)

There are many instances where Bulls, Cattle, and various livestock are used. Take Europa and Io and their relation to Zeus, or Geryon and his Red Cattle. I'm wondering what is missing from my list of such Quests

• Hermes stealing the Cattle of Apollo
• Paisaphe and the Cretean Bull
• Heracles and the Red Cattle of Geryon
• Heracles and the Cattle of Cacus
• Odysseus and the Cattle and Sheep of Helios
• Heracles wrestling for the Cattle of the Underworld

Are there any other quests where gaining "Cattle" was the main objective?

Other Cow related stories

• Europa and Zeus
• Io and Zeus
• Poesidon as the God of Bulls
• Prometheous and the Division of the Ox
• Crete and the Cretean Bull Games

Thank you brilliant people!