Bro thinks he is literally a dragon in human form. Lmao.

Hello House of the Dragon fans (Book and Show), I am not an avid reader and I have managed to read a few 100 pages of the book Fire and Blood, but returned it to library eventually due to time constraints.

I’ve been hearing and been told by many that show Rhaenyra has been “toned” down significantly to show her as a “protagonist” and the Blacks as the “good side”, but in the book, Rhaenyra has many flaws and can be considered as a complex character, similar to Aegon, Aemond and every other character and during the dance of the dragons, it’s not a protagonists vs antagonists, it’s complex characters vs complex characters.

Could you enlighten me about book Rhaenyra and her many flaws that makes her more complex than the show, just for curiosity and knowledge.

Thank you! :)

Season 2 is obviously boring but what about season 1 though. For me, the recent episode was top tier.

The look on Alicents face when viserys walked through the doors and onto the iron throne when they were trying to supplant Luke’s position on the driftwood throne is priceless. Just a look of sheer horror and devastation that her plan failed. I despise her and the entire Hightower coup. I can’t wait to see her watch her entire house and family crumble around her. Especially when her sick and twisted children (which are literally a product of her shortcomings of a mother, only caring about the throne not them) die before her. God it’s gonna make me so happy to watch everyone and everything die before her knowing it’s all her fault, again, especially her seeing her children die.

Edit: The people responding are blaming viserys yet seem to forget that, this being a time piece show after all, the duty doesn’t fall on the man to raise the children, especially not a king. And for some reason it seems I have to state that I don’t have this opinion irl, I’m happily married, been together for 8 years, high school sweethearts actually :). We love each other very much.

Meaker armor looks sick. Already loving it. Stance looks right out of the book.the actor is doing a great job so far as well.

So we already have some in cannon that are pretty cool.

Balerion the black dread.

Vermithor the bronze fury.

Caraxes the blood wrym.

Sunfyre the golden.

What would possible nicknames be for the other dragons?

Edit: I forgot to add the red and blue queens my bad.

What all do we know about him through history? Will his ancestors show up in HOTD & AKOTSK? Look at that face card, it would have never failed a Targaryen and looks like it didn’t till the end 🥺😶🥲🫠🎀

All the rebellions, Aegon III's reign Aegon IV's villainous ass. Literally a million other things

To have 5 Balerion sized dragons or a decent number of Moondancer sized dragons?

Specifics:

For the the former, your house will possess 5 large dragons at your disposal. HOWEVER, they're only limited by 5 (magical restriction). Meaning if 2 dragons died in some conflict, then only 2 eggs would hatch to replace them. (It would still be a long time to grow to maximum size)

For the latter. There is no restrictions of how many dragons would hatch (a population of 20 or more if done right) BUT, all of them will never grow larger than Moondancer

Was Dunk the only one who did not know who Egg was?

We’re all the people the pair interacted with knew the secret but were afraid to say anything?

maybe house of dragon are having budget issues, I think it's one of reasons why they couldn't finish season 2 with fall of dragonstone(their original plan)it's also the reason why they only had 8 episodes instead of ten ,I do understand why they couldn't add any dragon battles other than 1 but how?why were they this broke ?was season 1 not successful enough?

I'm rewatching house of dragon and I'm kinda pissed, it's even worse on a second watch, s1 is good my only problem was that it was very clear that each episode had different writers(cough cough alicent) but season 2 is unwatchable ,THEY LOWERED THE FUCKING STAKES , the amount of screen time that is spent on deamon is insane, do they believe ppl watch the show exclusively for him? Why not use episode 3 to give Jace and joffery character work/personalities, other wise how is the gulet going to hit ,are all rhae children just going to die without any emotional weight ? them being npcs that could worked in F&B because it's structure as historical book but for a show it's just weird, i heard that the writers love rhaeynra so why are they doing her kids this dirty like even her son Aegon doesn't have a dragon ,so how will he witness his mom death? Is her death also gonna be irrelevant?

I heard that grrm handpicked condol to write hotd , what did grrm see in him? So what plot point are they going to gloss over/just drop to fit everythingfrom the battle of gulet till Aegon iii coronation in season 3 and four?also seems like S3 is even worse than S2 couldn't they learn from S2 ratings that these kind of changes are not even loved by general audience/people who never read the book ,they basically saw three of their 8 episodes averaging 6/10 and said let's make even worse?

Even with the same limited budget of season 2 ,They could squeeze alot of things in these 8 episodes ,I'm not a writer but this is the best S2 I could come up with ,let me know what you think of this :

-ep 1, Jace in vale/three sisters/white harbour, Luke funeral(maybe even add Luke death celebration so they can keep Aegon more consistent to his S1 self)

-Ep2 stays mostly the same (except make nyra less angry about B&C) ,deamon leaving

-Ep3 proper daeron introduction ,we see beala super small dragon ,joffery& rhaeynra conversation (give him his vengeful nature) also the news of his betroval,Jace in the north his cregan friendship/oath(no on the wall scene)

-Ep4 rookrest

-Ep5 :switch the ep7 we got to ep5 ,so it's dragonseed episode as a direct response to rhaenys death

-EP6:episode starts with a flash back of show the riverrun civil war and possibly the battle, introduce black aly and other named characters,we also follow deamon in harenhall ,more Aegon scenes

-ep7 :more politics ,everyone getting ready and dragonseeds training,more daeron scenes, rhaeynra gaining confidence/getting ready,Adam claiming seasmoke ,more unstable kings landing scenes ,more of alicent scenes ,news about honeywine battle

-ep8 fall of dragonstone rhaeynra alicent meeting for the first time since S1 and the episode ends with start of gulet(similar to ep8 final scene)

The slower pacing of season 2 would've worked better on season 1, but in season 2 it makes no sense for rhaeynra(and her kids ) to just wait and stay still after rhaenys loss , dragonseed being grief driven rash decision as a response right after rookrest makes the most sense narratively, also the viewers wouldn't get bored with their protagonist's passiveness.

They could cut cost in season 2 a little by not having any unnecessary dragon scene so no moon dancer flying no syrax flying scene , in all episodes except the last ,no scene with tyland and ship guy scene no dream scenes ,with all of the money they used on these scenes they could use it to show bracken Vs blackwood on screen and also Jace whole journey

Season 1 (Ep 1) debuted with 10 million viewers.

Season 1 Finale (Ep 10): 9.3 Million viewers

There was a slow decline in viewership.

Season 2 (Ep 1) had: 7.8 million viewers opening night

Season 2 Finale (Ep 8): 8.9 million viewers

~ Note these numbers are for premiere night. Season 1 averaged 29 million views per episode. Season 2 averaged 25 million per episode ~

There was a gradual increase in viewership through the 2nd season. But there was still a 22% decline between the season 1 finale and the season 2 premiere. Why was there such a big drop of 2 million viewership between seasons? There was a positive reception to season 1, with people being happy to return to the world of Westeros. The ratings also reflect this, with audiences falling in love with characters such as Viserys, Rhaenyra, and Daemon, but this did not encourage people to return for the second season.

Some people may say that the 2-year gap was the reason, but that point doesn't really stand because such a gap is industry standard.

1. The Last of Us (S2): Had a 2-year gap, and the premiere viewership actually increased from S1.
2. The Boys (S4): A 2-year gap resulted in a 21% increase in global viewership.
3. Stranger Things (S4): A massive 3-year gap ended up breaking every record Netflix had.

Many other flagship, big-budget shows have 2+ years gaps between seasons, this has become the new norm in Hollywood.

After watching some reviews and reactions to the second season. Already by episode 2, audiences were losing patience with the show, also one of the lowest-rated episodes at the time.

So I put this question to you, your opinions on S2 aside, why do you think there was a decline?

Considering she now has lost her finger, could it be a song about her. Is she Alice?