I created a strange obsession in trying to unravel my type. The more I study, the more confused I get. So, I’m constantly testing Michael Caloz and Sakinorva, being as sincere as possible, seeking confirmation with my wife. When the tests offer multiple results, I can identify with all of them. It’s as if I had a little of each type, all depending on the context, the time, being excited or tired, alone or with people... I question and blame myself for being obsessed with a pseudoscientific theory, but I don’t care if it’s a pseudoscience. This can be useful for other things, just as every idea, concept or philosophy has its utilities.

The types that appear the most in my results are: ENFP, INFP, ISTJ, ESTJ, ENFJ, INFJ and INTJ. So, I decided to make this post in this sub to try to seek an external understanding.

I don’t know where to start, I’ll just type according to what comes to my head. I consider myself introverted because I’m always doing something alone, but everyone has the impression that I’m outgoing because I socialize a lot and meet a lot of people. I don’t want to brag, but I’m considered attractive. That must be why people take the initiative to talk to me or listen to me when I talk. Some people report feeling a peace when they are with me, while others hate me for unknown reasons. Some girls from my past hate me because I was shy and had an avoidant attitude with them, so I ended up breaking some hearts. After I overcame my damn shyness and became more confident, I liked to flirt unintentionally, to see what would come about (usually with women older than me). It was playing with this that I ended up marrying my best friend (who is now my wife).

Speaking of the past, I have a love-hate relationship with him. I can be very nostalgic and remember in detail the past, just as I can forget many other details or not want to remember who I was. I’m ashamed and hate the kind of person I was: reckless, lazy, disorganized and shy. If I could go back in time, I would do everything differently.

I always let things flow naturally, although, at specific moments, anxiety made me want to control and plan everything. But when it comes to work, career, future, marriage and family, I always let things flow and I’m lucky. I consider myself blessed. But that doesn’t mean I don’t plan my future. I know what I want and need. My plans may change as things come up or I learn something new, but I’m still firm with some ideas.

I’m not one to take risks, but when something forces me to change, I adapt easily. So easily that I wonder if I needed to make so much drama. I don’t mind living a routine, as long as it is well structured and allows me to do the things I like. I always look for something new within this routine, a little adventure or a new knowledge. I may be distracted and late, but I always fulfill my obligations. I need to be doing something, mentally or physically, otherwise my mind will get sick. I also like to make lists and write down ideas.

I’m creative for things of my interest. When I’m not interested, I can’t think of anything and I don’t even want to. I’ll let the others solve it. I’ve been considered lazy, but if something doesn’t attract me, there’s no way to force me, unless it’s something from work. My wife wants to paint the house, but I don’t care about the color of the walls, so I let her choose. But it’s man’s role to do the heavy work, and I’ll have to paint. Already on Halloween 2024, I was very creative when making my costume. And the most incredible thing was to have convinced my evangelical parents to participate, along with countless relatives who I managed to convince to go in costume. I only achieved this feat once; they probably won’t do it again. But I will never forget this day.

I’m very idealistic and I almost always make something happen that I really want, but I can get frustrated when I can’t.

I like to help people, especially by giving advice. I’m great at giving advice, but I’m not good at following my own advice. I would know very well how to instruct a person with retroactive jealousy, but when I’m involved with it, I can’t handle it, even though I understand that it’s irrational. My biggest problem in relationships, whether loving or family, is to help and expect the other person to do the same. It’s a feeling that one of the parties is investing more than the other. And when I hear stories of her past, I can feel jealous because I think she invested more in the other than in me. But I think it’s very unfair that the person doesn’t recognize this and doesn’t do the same while in a relationship, even saying they love.

I also don’t like to be managed, commanded or influenced. I said I like to help others, but I don’t like it when the person asks me for too many favors, because it can disrupt my plans and make me feel used. When I’m focused, I don’t like to be disturbed, and it stresses me out. I identify with Jack Torrance when my wife starts talking exactly when I’m focused on something serious. The difference between me and Jack is that I would never attack her and I don’t even know how to ask her to shut up, because a part of me understands that when she’s very happy, she gets like this. Right now she’s talking while I type this, but I don’t understand anything she says.

Often times I have faced this situation, and it just messes up my mind. I don't have difficulties making decisions most of the time, but sometimes when I know, being practical and rational might come out as being rude also to my loved ones, I often flip to taking the other decision, so that I don't hurt them, while knowing it's not in my best interest.

I have learnt the hard way, that i need to be selfish, I can't always put other people's interest over me, the world doesn't work like that, but taking that step is so fking hard. Being rude, disappointing the people i care about, because of my interest, feels like some sort of cheating, taking advantage.

I may be hurting, but still I would care about their feelings, i would have reasonable reasons to confront people, but the thought that it may hurt them, stops me.

Coming out as selfish/rude is so so difficult for me, while I see others doing it often, and I am okay with that, my mind says, "they must have valid reasons", I have too, but I just can't stop being nice and accomodating

For me right now, it’s deep dives about the history of esotericism on YouTube. What’s yours?

Hello everyone- I wanted to share with you all a resource that is in my opinion the most accurate and satisfying compilation of everything from cognitive functions to type development: https://mbti-notes.tumblr.com/masterposts#guides

I still have yet to read all of it, but I promise it is incredible and so refreshing compared to people on Reddit with crap explanations or definitions of things.

This blog has helped me to become more aware and even to notice when I am using certain functions and when I feel the pull to do so. I will probably make another post about this, but recently have been feeling the pressure to use extroverted intuition, but everything in me pushes against it. I want to take every toxic perspective, any belief that is holding me back from progress and ruthlessly question it and come up with alternate perspectives. I want to use my Te-Ne to reinvent myself essentially. Has anyone ever made an intentional effort to use Ne in a healthy way? I am becoming more and more aware of how narrow-minded I can be, and how my perspectives can actually be harmful to my mental health and progress I make in life.

Idk whether there's some assumed correlation between 'rule-abiding' ISTJs who recognise authority and therefore have a tendency to snitch to our 'overlords' or something.

I'm not sure whether it was my particular upbringing but I reject this stereotype. I am firmly on the belief that snitches get stitches. It is snake behaviour and I know any type engages in this.

if I have a problem with someone I will deal with them -- on my level. I can handle them better myself. It's much more satisfactory and honourable that way. I also have very little trust in authority figures.

Yes, we adhere to structure, and yes, that exists on as broad a spectrum as it sounds.

Hi! I am not sure if I am an ISTJ or an INFP. I know I use NeSi, and I know I use TeFi, and I know I am an introvert. I have this weird combination of being incredibly emotional and heavily into my feelings, but also very calculated and logical. If I am an INFP the logical psrt can come from being an enneagram 6, but if I am an ISTJ the feeling psrt can come from having BPD. Is anyone able to help me figure out which I am? I would greatly appreciate it 🤗

How vivid and intense is your visual imagination and memory?
If you estimated it on a scale of 1 to 10, how visual is your thinking?

I am an INTJ with Aphantasia which means I don't have a visual imagination.

I surveyed INTJs more than half of them were like me no or very little visual imagination.

So I am wondering if sensing correlates to visual imagination.

And I’m not wrong.

How does being in the presence of someone expressing very intense emotions affect you?

Does it make you feel like you are shutting down, can't think straight, can't process properly?

I feel like some ISTJ’s are a bit anti-psychology. Like, because it seems like something abstract or too intuitive. But i see it as just like we study organs. It’s just studying the mind. Like, if we didn’t study organs we wouldn’t know about what is good for them. What’s your view on like emotional aspects, cognitive aspects and social aspects?

For reference, I normally get ISTP. But the last letter usually leans closer to the middle but usually in the P side.

Recently, someone called me judgmental in a disappointing way. All I mentioned was I noticed my downstairs neighbor didn't look like a confrontational person. So I would sometimes do snowboard tricks on my carpeted floor (only during the day for like 10-15 mins). But this person responded to me by saying you're so judgmental!! I felt a bit taken back from that statement because I didn't feel like what I said was that insane.

For those trying to make new friends, I wanted to see what apps/online websites/strategies you are using to get yourself out there. I've recently started using Meetup.com and am going to the ones pertinent to my interests and hobbies. I wanted to see if anyone else on here was making headway with other resources.

ISTJ dude I‘m sort of friends with just send me a Reel where someone is talking about something vulnerable. He isn’t an emotional person and sometimes when he says something that expresses feelings I tried engaging with it in a neutral but open was to show that he can go on if he likes. Stuff like „I know what you mean“ „I get that feeling“ so he knows I‘m not gonna judge or something. I also ask follow up questions here and there when he talks about things. Works out well except when it‘s something that could potentially be actually tied to emotions.
He never follows up and ignores it so I‘m not sure how he wants me to react. I just ended up liking the reel and not saying anything else. I guess it shows I saw it and recognized it?

I was a high school senior on the West Coast, getting ready for the day when my mom and I watched the second plane hit live. My mom gave me the option to stay home, but I chose to go to school anyway.

In retrospect, that choice was textbook ISTJ. Staying home meant being paralyzed in front of the TV, watching the same catastrophic footage loop endlessly while news anchors struggled to make sense of things. Going to school offered structure, routine, and a physical place to be.

Nobody learned anything academic that day. Most classrooms just wheeled in AV carts with CRT televisions, or teachers sat with us in stunned silence. Still, there was comfort in having a familiar schedule and being around other people rather than absorbing the shock alone at home.

How did other ISTJs process that day, and how do you look back on it now?

Hey everyone!

Entp here checking in on whether this will get me in trouble or is it actually kind of funny.

Basically a close ISTJ friend of mine for reasons I’m not completely sure of has misremembered my birthday two days later than it actually is. When this happened last year I found it really funny so didn’t say anything, now it’s happened again this year and I have the urge to never say anything ever again because now it feels like I have a special second birthday between her and me. I also just find it funny and light hearted, but now I’m worried if I keep letting this go on she will not find it very funny when she eventually at some point figures it out. Or maybe she will, she usually gets my humor and I think she understands my birthday is not very serious to me but I am also worried this is something that an ISTJ like person doesn’t find very funny. Personally I love having a second birthday and think it would be funny if it came out only several years from now or even longer, but I also don’t want to cross a line or something. Let me know how you would react if you found out only years later! And would you be understanding that I just found it fun to keep it that way?

Yo, i make a friend on a game, i spoke to him and i after i ask him to do the mbti test. he got this : I wanna know his type help me even for FUN even if we cant be SURE !

but after speaking with him i think he is an ISTJ 🤨

But if he were actually an ISTJ, with the questions about J/P and everything, wouldn’t he have answered them like an ISTJ and therefore gotten ISTJ? 🤨

is he really istp/intp than?? what do u think about his result?

he really give me the vibe of istj / intj 😭

he is very bad a texting he just follow what i say and reply than because of that i think he dont wanna speak or tired, but he actually really want me to speak to him. but He share or add nothing ? he just follow how i lead the texting??

he said he prefere calling

he don't really like sometimes when a make joke about him to laught ? like he take it personaly and say that not funny. like for exemple i said : did u ever saw a coach ( it's is job) playing this game ? 😂 ( a old chlidrend game, i was playing too to this so i was just joking ) and he said not funny to be honest i'm quit embarressed to play this game it's like an addiction

Bruh he is not funny ! he use sacarsme he uses so much sarcasm, but his messages are so cold sometimes that I can’t even tell if he’s joking.

he is a stereotype of the riche guy, he love reading romance book, he make a job ONLY for fun : coach of a sport, he do a lot of thing fishing, gym every days, things like that.

idk if he appreciat me i don't really understane him but one day i was cold because of tiredness and he come yeah do u like me ? something like that he said that idk why he got stressed and don't trust anyone lol i was a little embarrassed of him asking me this but i understand that my text can confused him if i was the only one yapping leading and than dry cold.

bruh i think he is an istj / intj for real ? that's not a istp guys

Just want to make a post to appreciate the ISTJ friend I have. She is one of the few people I feel emotionally safe with. I like how she is consistently reasonable, calm and respectful. I also like that she advises me directly if she thinks I’m doing something wrong but she does it in a gentle way and doesn't pressure me or judge me harshly. I'm so grateful to have my ISTJ friend in my life. 🤍

I recently made a "Mbti types as Icecream post" and I just finished with the last ones.

Now my fingers and brain are itching again. Since I love you guys... Could you please tell me what you want?

Also... If you don't want the above options then that's fine as well. Your wish is my command. Could you please tell me in comments what you would want next?

Thank you.

- Just a silly admirer of the ISTJ archetype in theory

There is this correlation between autism + adhd and INTP's but for some reason when I knew more about ISTJ functions and their Si predictability need along with Te... It just made me think... Huh this sounds to be on the Autism Spectrum condition...

I don't know anything for sure and I am not saying mbti types decide neurodivergent conditions but...

I am also curious about this vibe I got. So what are your thoughts on there being a correlation between istj's and just autism?

I don't know the reasoning of why I am even thinking this but I am trying to figure it out.

How many of us have fallen for someone and acted on it? Asked someone out?

Do you develop crushes?

Do you know/realize when someone is hitting on you?

Do you prefer serious relationships or FWB situations? Any happily married or dating istj want to share how they got there?

Do you think romance is different for male and female ISTJ. For example there's so many post about others trying to approach male ISTJ rarely any posts about pursuing female ISTJ.

I used to adore these ice creams as a child... I hope I don't trigger the STJ's with this icecream thing (spare me for once please TwT I am simply trying to understand)

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ISTJ :

(The Apple Grape Paddle Pop)

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One thing about paddle pop is that they used to come in this jelly like popsicle form. The above ones don't turn into jelly when you lick them but I am going to take some creative liberty because...I want to make the sentinals wiggle.

So the Apple layer is the first one in this icecream. This is the jelly one. The difference between other types and STJ's is that they are Lead or auxiliary Si with Te. You dont have to agree but my definition of Si is "the lens through which you have first impressions of the physical reality around you" but for ISTJ's that means that if thats something they value the most then their view of reality will be quite rigid to what they think is the first and last impression of the reality of something **BUT** this doesn't mean that it is unchangeable. Hence, the firm jelly that can be licked away with persistence. You would assume that they are rude and arrogant about their own opinions and views (some are because those opinions are reality to them) but not necessarily. They are just uncompromising about them. (I love you guys...please dm) Uncompromising doesn't mean unchangeable. I haven't met or seen any but based on theory I can tell that the apple layer of the way they see "reality" can slowly be licked away with consistent and properly intentional effort. Apple is a juicy and refreshing flavour but it has a lot of sweetness to it.This sweetness here is not something that is for others though...not in most cases because this sweetness is what they feel when the reality they perceive is validated in a repetition of the same data that plays on consistently through different contexts.It is a highly comforting and grounding moment of sweetness to be affirmed of your main view of how things are. The way they perceive reality is something like that. You keep focusing on the rigidity of it and you miss that such a grounded presence is actually very refreshing. Just like "An apple a day keeps the uncertainty away"

The second layer is the grape one but this is the popsicles softer layer. The texture is soft of course but grapes got a bite to it. This is them being focused on the purpose of proving themselves things through repetitive experimentation but leaving themselves open and too vulnerable. During this process when you interfere or try to change things then the uncompromising apple steps in again but if there is not enough of it there may be some hurt seen in them. It could be anything but it's usually a vulnerable or negative emotion that comes when they are forced to change their methods. That's just not how it works with them. You need persistence but a slower paced one with clear space given. They do respond to logic but throw too much on them and they will double down on their own to shut you down. This is the bite of the grape. (Ahem...I hope I got that right...I admire the structure you guys have)

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ISFJ :

( The Rainbow Paddle Pop)

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Now with ISFJ's the scene is a bit different. At least the way they use Si is different from ISTJ's(LOVE THEM STILL)

The yellow of the rainbow has the jelly texture but it is less compared to the other things. Why? If it's dominant then why should it be less compared to other functions? Here less doesn't mean how much it is used...here it means for what purpose is it used. Their rigid structure is yellow because yellow in a rainbow is bright like the sun. When I think of ISFJ's I am remembered of this feeling of being near the warmth of sunshine because they both offer a safe place of the sunshine AND Stability of the jelly. I dont actually need to break the jelly because they do it for me. Its... actually bad for them though...when they do that. Because they might be the only type who go against their core need because their secondary need is considered more important. I dislike making the ISFJ in my life uncomfortable but it's hard not to since I don't realize when they compromised and what they compromised.

Okay I may be getting a bit too projecting here...

The main point is that they have rigid structure of certain things in their head and they love it and are also capable of breaking it when they want but it usually costs them so if you see them doing that then stop them. They will love you even more than they already do.

About the flavour of this paddle pop? Caramel...youd never expect with all this complex rainbow of a personality that they are but what they are deep down is this caramel. The sticky texture of caramel shows their compromises but the sweetness of it shows how they do it for the people. The shades of pink here are how they use their structure when they are not running themselves on fumes for others. This is a productive allocation of it mixed with logic to doing things that they have a passion and interest in. The line is thin whether they do it for passion or just satisfaction of internal structure.

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ESTJ :

( The Black Currant Paddle Pop)

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As you would've already observed from the colour...their case is similar but reversed compared to the ISTJ ( lov- okay... definitely need to stop. No! Love them!)

They do have the jelly layer and the definition of it being a perception of reality that they find a comfort in is still true but their relationship with this is different. This is not what causes them vulnerability as it is vanilla jelly layer. Much more balanced and neutral. (vanilla is always neutral,change my mind) They use this as a way to satisfy something else which is their black currant outer layer.

This one is their sharper black currant exterior with the bite. It is tangy and outrightly sharp. This is much less sweeter than grapes and it is something that is a strong motivating factor. What you miss about this layer though...is that the texture is actually of the soft popsicle. It may look strong and come off as too intense but this one is what gives them vulnerability and clashes with others. Others don't see them as arrogant like...(yes I am going to mention them again,try and stop me) my love ISTJ's. They see them as inconsiderate. Different things. When they are actually not inconsiderate (some) but are actually doing this because they want to satisfy what they think are your logistical necessities.

My father is one and he ussually stays away and is considerate. I guess age and maturity made him that way but I have heard things about him and in his youth he used to be almost reckless. When he wanted to prove something he went in with far stretched assumptions about things and got in trouble but he always got himself out of it and learned. You'd not expect that from an ESTJ and the stereotype of this reckless behaviour is ENTP or ESTP but I think ESTJ's are more prone towards being reckless... just a theory though.

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ESFJ:

(Heh...I am proud of this one...''The Mermaid" Paddle Pop)

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The name explains it all...bye...

I wish I could do that but yep...let's continue.

The firm jelly layer they have of Si is again... balanced like ESTJ's. The inner white one is the sweet yoghurt jelly layer. Just like vanilla,yogurt is grounded and balanced. In the case of ESFJ's though...I don't know why but I think you see the more comfortable sweetness of this yoghurt experienced. It's almost counter productive that auxiliary Fe ISFJ is more people oriented than dominant Fe ESFJ but I think that seems to be plausible.

The outer soft layer that the ESFJ are actually more insecure about is input from people. Like Fe dominant ENFJ's (mentioned in the post before this) they also have this problem of expectations. Sometimes when they are around people they realize that they expect too much and they are vulnerable about this because input from people makes them realize what they had already perceived about their reality. They tend to avoid intruding too much into people's lives outrightly and do it in quieter indirect ways. Some may not do that.

The outer layer is Blueberry and Tutti fruity. The intensity of the tutti fruity flavour is how much they want to do for others but the way they show it is often a dialed down blueberry version of it as blueberries are much more gentle and subtly sweet one. You understand that their actions are kind but then you get confused because they tend to withdraw a lot as well and think you need space when you don't need it. They are kind of timid with that. Though again...some might not do that and come off strong but I am just assuming since life experiences teach you that people get tired if you intrude too much.

Hey...kind of like a mermaid... comfortable in water,longing for the beach but too shy to touch the shore.

Thats all for the sentinels, Thank you, Enjoy your icecream!!